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Title: Consensus Bitcoin Price Predictions
Post by: LucidChaos on January 08, 2015, 04:25:21 PM
Someone linked this on Reddit. Look interesting, it's an app to figure out a consensus bitcoin price prediction and you can add your own. https://www.hedgeable.com/research/bitcoin/estimator (https://www.hedgeable.com/research/bitcoin/estimator)

The 1-year consensus is like $330 (EDIT: up to $450 now)


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: arbitrage001 on January 08, 2015, 04:32:31 PM
The current consensus is whatever price you see right now.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: LucidChaos on January 08, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
It's for predictions, i.e. the 1-year price


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: samuel999 on January 08, 2015, 04:35:43 PM
Maybe around $150, bring in the flaming!


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: dmugetsu on January 08, 2015, 04:39:22 PM
I think it will rise in mid 2015
like $350


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: Flashman on January 08, 2015, 04:46:03 PM
The current consensus is whatever price you see right now.

Yah, that's where real people vote with real money, not BS


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: Bitcoinpro on January 08, 2015, 05:21:42 PM
it drives economic innovation and thats on top of the electronics, programming and social change, that puts a decent floor on the price


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: Beliathon on January 08, 2015, 07:03:33 PM
Better question: how long until we're measuring goods and services in bitcoin rather than measuring bitcoin in fiat value?


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: Sindelar1938 on January 08, 2015, 07:41:00 PM
Sounds like early season bull shit to me ;)


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: itsAj on January 08, 2015, 09:22:47 PM
The current consensus is the current price, the market price.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: Flashman on January 08, 2015, 09:28:40 PM
Although the gradient of a rally might count, if the market suddenly thinks it's worth $1000 next week, we're probably at 500 from 300 this morning.... ain't nobody going to pay 1000 right now, when they can get some for a bid of 500.1 this minute, though someone will be willing to pay 500.2 the next.

And so it goes.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: LucidChaos on January 08, 2015, 09:38:21 PM
The current consensus is the current price, the market price.
I think everyone understands that. This thread has little to do with the current consensus


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: Possum577 on January 09, 2015, 07:58:34 AM
How does the app generate a consensus, by averaging all the prices users think it should be at?


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: rz20 on January 09, 2015, 08:32:06 AM
It should be around 350$ at this time, so it is very early.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: SLVR4ME on January 09, 2015, 08:39:31 AM
Hell, my guess (@ CES Las Vegas Jan 2014) for BTC price at the end of 2014 was $650
I either was hung over from too much clubbin or i needed a new crystal ball.
Hopefully this year we will see some steady social acceptance which will lead to a more stable steady price rise.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: Erdogan on January 09, 2015, 02:03:44 PM
No general consensus, only the two parties in the last trade did consent. Edit: Actually, the buyer valued the bitcoins higher than the last price, and the seller valued it lower.

Some of the supply and demand curves you can see in the order books on the bourses. The rest of the aggregated demand and supply is in the heads of the market actors, which are all of humanity.

This is general market dynamics, everybody should learn to understand the market.

Currently, people discovering bitcoin and valuate it at a higher price than the last trade, are important for us.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price Predictions
Post by: LucidChaos on January 09, 2015, 05:36:20 PM
How does the app generate a consensus, by averaging all the prices users think it should be at?
It's what they think it will be at various times in the future


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price Precitions
Post by: ChuckBuck on January 09, 2015, 05:41:45 PM
Consensus price for Bitcoin is roughly $0.00 USD:

http://d.ibtimes.co.uk/en/full/1400015/bitcoin-price-crash-chart.jpg?w=720&h=400&l=50&t=40

You heard it here first, sometime in 2015.   :'(

Unless of course it rises to $1k.  Then I'll feel like a moron.  A happy moron, though.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: LucidChaos on January 09, 2015, 05:44:21 PM
No general consensus, only the two parties in the last trade did consent. Edit: Actually, the buyer valued the bitcoins higher than the last price, and the seller valued it lower.

Some of the supply and demand curves you can see in the order books on the bourses. The rest of the aggregated demand and supply is in the heads of the market actors, which are all of humanity.

This is general market dynamics, everybody should learn to understand the market.

Currently, people discovering bitcoin and valuate it at a higher price than the last trade, are important for us.
You're the 3rd person to post a generic statement about how the market price is already a consensus, without actually reading the thread or looking at the link. This is about predicting the future price, that's what the link in the OP is for. I just changed the thread title to make it more clear, my mistake if it was confusing.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: Erdogan on January 09, 2015, 06:15:04 PM
No general consensus, only the two parties in the last trade did consent. Edit: Actually, the buyer valued the bitcoins higher than the last price, and the seller valued it lower.

Some of the supply and demand curves you can see in the order books on the bourses. The rest of the aggregated demand and supply is in the heads of the market actors, which are all of humanity.

This is general market dynamics, everybody should learn to understand the market.

Currently, people discovering bitcoin and valuate it at a higher price than the last trade, are important for us.
You're the 3rd person to post a generic statement about how the market price is already a consensus, without actually reading the thread or looking at the link. This is about predicting the future price, that's what the link in the OP is for. I just changed the thread title to make it more clear, my mistake if it confusing.

Ok (except I disagree about the consensus). Still, you could say that there is a market for the price in one year in the future minus the current interest rate for that future year interval, and that market is expressed by last price and the order book and the unexpressed valuation vectors (volume@price) that exists in the heads of the actors. A generalization too. If you just want a number, I would say 20x current price in one year. Obvously there is no consensus, what what we can say is that if someone expects a price lower than now, it would not be rational for that person to own bitcoins now.
An app is not helpful.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price Predictions
Post by: runningfree on January 09, 2015, 06:39:24 PM


For many people, the price of Bitcoin is really important. I believe the main focus should be on the fact that Bitcoin continues to become a mainstream player and method of payment. After all, there is plenty of money to be made with the trading of bitcoins, whether the price is high or not.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price
Post by: LucidChaos on January 09, 2015, 06:49:28 PM
No general consensus, only the two parties in the last trade did consent. Edit: Actually, the buyer valued the bitcoins higher than the last price, and the seller valued it lower.

Some of the supply and demand curves you can see in the order books on the bourses. The rest of the aggregated demand and supply is in the heads of the market actors, which are all of humanity.

This is general market dynamics, everybody should learn to understand the market.

Currently, people discovering bitcoin and valuate it at a higher price than the last trade, are important for us.
You're the 3rd person to post a generic statement about how the market price is already a consensus, without actually reading the thread or looking at the link. This is about predicting the future price, that's what the link in the OP is for. I just changed the thread title to make it more clear, my mistake if it confusing.

Ok (except I disagree about the consensus). Still, you could say that there is a market for the price in one year in the future minus the current interest rate for that future year interval, and that market is expressed by last price and the order book and the unexpressed valuation vectors (volume@price) that exists in the heads of the actors. A generalization too. If you just want a number, I would say 20x current price in one year. Obvously there is no consensus, what what we can say is that if someone expects a price lower than now, it would not be rational for that person to own bitcoins now.
An app is not helpful.

It's not necessarily limited to people who own and/or trade bitcoin. You can have an overall consensus including anyone who has a prediction, which would serve more as a general sentiment and less of a technical indicator. Just a different sort of measure, it's not about being right or wrong.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price Predictions
Post by: jbreher on January 09, 2015, 11:36:40 PM
My SWAG for 2015:

- high of $7669.69
- trough after that of $669.00

End of year? somewhere between.

Yes, you have my permission to point and laugh. But not until the year is up.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price Predictions
Post by: LucidChaos on January 12, 2015, 03:08:38 PM
Update: consensus predictions are rising if you check that link in OP


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price Predictions
Post by: jbreher on July 08, 2015, 11:42:16 PM
Halfway through (Jan 08 - July 08). Who's hedging their bets?

I'm, like, sticking to mine. Because we just don't know, now, do we?


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price Predictions
Post by: iam_aayushiJ on January 22, 2019, 10:40:29 AM
As the market is experiencing volatile conditions, we should back up the prediction with the market experts, who have been the mind and heart of the cryptocurrency market.Ronnie Moas, a cryptocurrency analyst predicted that BTC might reach $28,000 by 2019. He believes the demand for BTC would increase with its decreasing supply. He made it somewhat clear that by 2019, the adoption rate would increase and hence people would demand more of it. We must remember that BTC is not unlimited in supply.


Title: Re: Consensus Bitcoin Price Predictions
Post by: bitfocus on January 23, 2019, 11:29:40 AM
will they take a part in the loss if their prediction is wrong?