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Title: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: miztaziggy on January 15, 2015, 01:54:44 PM
Hard to judge.

Massive sell off this last few days, sharp rebound from below $200 and now a steady climb in price.

Looks like a bull trap to me, the calm before the storm....or maybe people falling for the rumours on twatter.

Maybe it's genuine though, and we're going to get a steady recovery followed by another bubble now?


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Bisha on January 15, 2015, 01:58:47 PM
There are so many "Bull Market" threads it might just turn the market sentiment around, nothing surprises me anymore. The fact that people want a bull market so bad that it might just turn into that. It would be good, though I don't know if it would be sustainable for much long


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Flashman on January 15, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
Last three days could have been monumental bear trap.

Also, traders be traders, they might have got out early, but there could be half a billion dollars sitting on exchanges just waiting to buy back. There's always chance a steep rally from nowhere can falter, just because nobody can get in quick enough, but when there's been a shakeout and there's funds just sitting there it's a different story.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Q7 on January 15, 2015, 02:03:23 PM
Doesn't look like a bull to me cause it could be price market  correction. So I would be wary on this one.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Guido on January 15, 2015, 02:03:36 PM
guaranteed bulltrap in my humble opinion


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: LFC_Bitcoin on January 15, 2015, 02:07:08 PM
Last chance for cheap coins.
Don't miss this opportunity.
Make a decision for once in your lives.
Buy people.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Flashman on January 15, 2015, 02:16:48 PM
Is tomorrow a "selloff friday" or a "buy in friday" ?

I should mark up a chart with fridays, either seems people want extra fiat for party weekends or dump their paycheck into coin.



Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: tokeweed on January 15, 2015, 02:20:33 PM
Hard to judge.

Massive sell off this last few days, sharp rebound from below $200 and now a steady climb in price.

Looks like a bull trap to me, the calm before the storm....or maybe people falling for the rumours on twatter.

Maybe it's genuine though, and we're going to get a steady recovery followed by another bubble now?

https://i.imgur.com/wIUxtQK.jpg



Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on January 15, 2015, 02:21:55 PM
I'm afraid the price is unpredictable, it's like a roller coaster but with undefined rails.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: tokeweed on January 15, 2015, 02:28:27 PM
I'm afraid the price is unpredictable, it's like a roller coaster but with undefined rails.

true.  but it has been going down since the beginning of last year.  although one should be ready and adapt to what the market's doing, one has to be careful also.

here's a one year chart.

https://i.imgur.com/1TtlSB0l.jpg


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: thresher on January 15, 2015, 02:33:50 PM
Genuine rise to maybe low 300s, then small drop to maybe 300/mid 200s, then huge increase to 500 after the btc conferences, and during Superbowl weekend. 
I base that off absolutely nothing, no need to pretend I can tell the world from a chart like everyone else :)


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: miztaziggy on January 15, 2015, 02:34:33 PM
Oh wait a minute.....

Popped already?

http://i60.tinypic.com/30l1kko.png


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: tokeweed on January 15, 2015, 02:36:43 PM
Genuine rise to maybe low 300s, then small drop to maybe 300/mid 200s, then huge increase to 500 after the btc conferences, and during Superbowl weekend.  
I base that off absolutely nothing, no need to pretend I can tell the world from a chart like everyone else :)

exactly...  whatever anyone says, the market will do what it'll do.  even market experts make mistakes.

buy, sell or whatever, just keep losses small.

https://i.imgur.com/1TtlSB0l.jpg


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: jonald_fyookball on January 15, 2015, 02:41:59 PM

exactly...  whatever anyone says, the market will do what it'll do.  even market experts make mistakes.


mistakes?  Experts in trading are right about 60% of the time.   No one knows what the market will do.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on January 15, 2015, 02:43:50 PM

exactly...  whatever anyone says, the market will do what it'll do.  even market experts make mistakes.


mistakes?  Experts in trading are right about 60% of the time.   No one knows what the market will do.
This is even more true when you take into account hacks, those are "unpredictable".


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: tokeweed on January 15, 2015, 02:44:34 PM

exactly...  whatever anyone says, the market will do what it'll do.  even market experts make mistakes.


mistakes?  Experts in trading are right about 60% of the time.   No one knows what the market will do.

so they're wrong 40% of the time?  wow.  i thought they're right at like 75% - 80% of the time.  


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: tokeweed on January 15, 2015, 02:45:44 PM

exactly...  whatever anyone says, the market will do what it'll do.  even market experts make mistakes.


mistakes?  Experts in trading are right about 60% of the time.   No one knows what the market will do.
This is even more true when you take into account hacks, those are "unpredictable".

or maybe the goxxed 800k suddenly appearing and sold in the market. 


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: chesthing on January 15, 2015, 03:48:45 PM
I'm afraid the price is unpredictable, it's like a roller coaster but with undefined rails.
Yeah, and reading posts in this forum is of no help. Entertaining, maybe.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: eboard10 on January 15, 2015, 03:51:10 PM
Blurted unfortunately. The rise looks like a standard corrective move upwards (as an A-B-C).

Hopefully the drop that will follow will be the last one and shouldn't go that much lower than the previous low of $150. I'm guessing $130, but that's pure speculation.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Exotic Crown on January 15, 2015, 03:52:41 PM
I think I agree with the people who are suggesting this is the bouncing period and we will see a little lower in the next few days.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Dilla on January 15, 2015, 03:53:03 PM
Blurted unfortunately. The rise looks like a standard corrective move upwards (as an A-B-C).

Hopefully the drop that will follow will be the last one and shouldn't go that much lower than the previous low of $150. I'm guessing $130, but that's pure speculation.

I'm thinking the same. Possibly flash under $100 on some exchanges.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Rawted on January 15, 2015, 03:55:49 PM
http://www.okayfuture.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Best-New-Trap-Music.jpg


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: jonald_fyookball on January 15, 2015, 04:27:04 PM

exactly...  whatever anyone says, the market will do what it'll do.  even market experts make mistakes.


mistakes?  Experts in trading are right about 60% of the time.   No one knows what the market will do.

so they're wrong 40% of the time?  wow.  i thought they're right at like 75% - 80% of the time.  

Trading is a zero sum game... Wouldn't be possible for majority of pro traders to be right 80% of the time,
as they are all trying to take money from each other.  This is why trading is so difficult: you are trying
to take money away from very smart people.   


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Mirsad on January 15, 2015, 04:32:40 PM
Trading is a zero sum game... Wouldn't be possible for majority of pro traders to be right 80% of the time,
as they are all trying to take money from each other.  This is why trading is so difficult: you are trying
to take money away from very smart people.   

It is easier with bitcoin.
You try to take away money from dumb people.
Stocks are harder to trade.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: inca on January 15, 2015, 04:37:42 PM

exactly...  whatever anyone says, the market will do what it'll do.  even market experts make mistakes.


mistakes?  Experts in trading are right about 60% of the time.   No one knows what the market will do.
This is even more true when you take into account hacks, those are "unpredictable".

or maybe the goxxed 800k suddenly appearing and sold in the market. 

You know those coins don't exist, right?


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Amph on January 15, 2015, 05:10:19 PM
Hard to judge.

Massive sell off this last few days, sharp rebound from below $200 and now a steady climb in price.

Looks like a bull trap to me, the calm before the storm....or maybe people falling for the rumours on twatter.

Maybe it's genuine though, and we're going to get a steady recovery followed by another bubble now?

https://i.imgur.com/wIUxtQK.jpg



what if i tell you that the 1k price, was a dead cat bounce too?


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: zeroday on January 15, 2015, 06:56:33 PM
Hard to judge.

Massive sell off this last few days, sharp rebound from below $200 and now a steady climb in price.

Looks like a bull trap to me, the calm before the storm....or maybe people falling for the rumours on twatter.

Maybe it's genuine though, and we're going to get a steady recovery followed by another bubble now?

https://i.imgur.com/wIUxtQK.jpg



what if i tell you that the 1k price, was a dead cat bounce too?

And the next spike of $8K will be dead cat bounce too :)

As Warren Buffet already confirmed, bitcoin is a poison that makes dead cats zombies so they keep bouncing eternally


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: alexeft on January 15, 2015, 06:59:58 PM
Hard to judge.

Massive sell off this last few days, sharp rebound from below $200 and now a steady climb in price.

Looks like a bull trap to me, the calm before the storm....or maybe people falling for the rumours on twatter.

Maybe it's genuine though, and we're going to get a steady recovery followed by another bubble now?

Bllue tarp!!!!


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: HarmonLi on January 15, 2015, 07:29:12 PM
Hard to judge.

Massive sell off this last few days, sharp rebound from below $200 and now a steady climb in price.

Looks like a bull trap to me, the calm before the storm....or maybe people falling for the rumours on twatter.

Maybe it's genuine though, and we're going to get a steady recovery followed by another bubble now?

Exactly, it's hard to judge. I don't know, I gotta say the volume on Jan 14th was finally high enough to justify a real bottom, but it's nothing definite, that's for sure. I think we'll be wiser in a couple weeks.


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Flashman on January 15, 2015, 07:32:24 PM
What it looks like right now, is rebuilding a $200 support level, will probably saunter downward and tamp it down a few times before wandering off upward again...

Everybody now,

I love to go a wandering along the mountain track....


Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: NotLambchop on January 15, 2015, 09:04:39 PM
>bitcoin
>genuine rise in price

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Title: Re: Genuine rise in price, or bull trap?
Post by: Le Happy Merchant on January 16, 2015, 08:30:36 AM
I'm usually wrong, so I'll call it a bulltrap. I really think that it is one, but not a big one.