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Title: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: hdd3go on January 18, 2015, 09:03:07 AM
Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... :(

Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: redsn0w on January 18, 2015, 09:06:18 AM
Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... :(

Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16


You have to wait , no one know when it will be confirmed. The next time use at least 0.0001 btc as fee, if you want to put zero as fee use greenAddress.it  (but also the other part should use it).


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: hdd3go on January 18, 2015, 09:10:08 AM
Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... :(

Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16


You have to wait , no one know when it will be confirmed. The next time use at least 0.0001 btc as fee, if you want to put zero as fee use greenAddress.it  (but also the other part should use it).

Yes , I do use , I made this one just for test.  Anyway , greenAddress.it is cool , thank you for your information!


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: izanagi narukami on January 18, 2015, 09:14:34 AM
Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... :(

Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16


You have to wait , no one know when it will be confirmed. The next time use at least 0.0001 btc as fee, if you want to put zero as fee use greenAddress.it  (but also the other part should use it).

Yes , I do use , I made this one just for test.  Anyway , greenAddress.it is cool , thank you for your information!

I think it will return in unknown time.

Why did you not paid the fee ?
You should know that if you not paid the fee, the transaction will be not confirm


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: redsn0w on January 18, 2015, 09:17:19 AM
Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... :(

Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16


You have to wait , no one know when it will be confirmed. The next time use at least 0.0001 btc as fee, if you want to put zero as fee use greenAddress.it  (but also the other part should use it).

Yes , I do use , I made this one just for test.  Anyway , greenAddress.it is cool , thank you for your information!

I think it will return in unknown time.

Why did you not paid the fee ?
You should know that if you not paid the fee, the transaction will be not confirm

It will be confirmed but maybe after 24-48 hours, no one know when exactly it will be conf.  I always include 0.0001 btc as fee ( only ~ 0.03 $) and
I suggest all the people to do the same.


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: slacknation on January 18, 2015, 09:24:12 AM
there are lots of free transactions that got confirmed but for yours, the transfer value is quite small so it is better to include a fee


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: testerx on January 18, 2015, 09:47:30 AM
Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... :(

Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16
You can't send such a small amount of bitcoin and expect it to go through quickly without a fee since smaller transactions don't carry high priority by default.  The age of your bitcoins also affect their priority, with older coins getting higher priority.

I've sent a lot of transactions without fees before but only when they're going to be higher priority even without a fee.


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: madmax6688 on January 18, 2015, 09:49:16 AM
It will either eventually confirm or fail and return to your wallet.


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: Jamie_Boulder on January 18, 2015, 09:55:35 AM
Should pay the fee, I don't understand why you wouldn't


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: Q7 on January 18, 2015, 10:55:52 AM
I tried before which took me days but eventually it get confirmed. If you are in hurry it doesn't hurt to pay the fees which I think overall is still considered low compared to the conventional fiat payment systems.


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: Cryptology on January 18, 2015, 11:03:04 AM
This transaction has a very low priority. I doubt it will ever be confirmed. Will be forgotten by the network first. You should create an alternative transaction including a fee.

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: bitbaby on January 18, 2015, 11:08:32 AM
I think it already got cancelled and the BTC would have returned to your address by now because I am getting "Transaction not found".

Never mind above, for some reason I don't see it on blockchain but it's still showing unconfirmed on blocktrail.


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: gkv9 on January 18, 2015, 01:43:05 PM
Don't worry, even I sent some small amount, i.e.; BTC0.0005, thought that why should I send any fee for such a small amount, but wasn't know that it won't get confirmed, and then even I started asking regarding the same everywhere... All I have experienced is, the amount reverted back and didn't get confirmed... So, even if it doesn't get confirmed, don't worry, the txn will revert and you will get your funds back... Next time, always use the min. miners' fee, i.e.; BTC0.0001 in order for it to confirm easily... :)


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: ujka on January 18, 2015, 01:48:00 PM
OP used unconfirmed change from that tx as input in another tx to some gambling site. Site accepts 0 conf, and he won something, but it got dropped, too.


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: geforcelover on January 18, 2015, 01:49:47 PM
Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... :(

Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16

next time use blockchain it put transaction fee everytiem if it did`nt confirm u will get refund lol :)


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: Meuh6879 on January 18, 2015, 02:05:39 PM
many problem with the adress linked to the transaction ...  ::)
http://btc.blockr.io/address/info/1AYBhpkM64euN5LLhghXuPaz8n3PvT3DbT


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: GigaBit on January 18, 2015, 03:40:06 PM
If the transaction is sizeable, it might not get picked up by miners because it requires extra work for no extra coin.

Leave your wallet open, online, for as long as you can, your transaction will get broadcast every couple of minutes or so.

As long as you get the first transaction, you'll be fine.

I also recommend adding a BTC0.00025 to your transactions extra to speed things up.

If no one picks up your transaction, it will be returned after 72 hours automatically.

Hope this helps :)


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: 98problems on January 18, 2015, 05:43:57 PM
OP used unconfirmed change from that tx as input in another tx to some gambling site. Site accepts 0 conf, and he won something, but it got dropped, too.
This is a major problem with with luckyb.it and other "on chain" gambling sites. They try to reduce costs by not including TX fees on transactions that need them in order to have a high priority by most mining pools and they spam up the blockchain.

There is really nothing the OP can do to get his transactions confirmed, although some pools may eventually confirm it if there is a very small amount of unconfirmed transactions needing confirmation


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: RCan06 on January 18, 2015, 11:31:43 PM
About 4 days ago, I accidentally sent .85 btc to another wallet without including a fee. I had to wait 2 days, but it eventually went through.

You can track it under the unconfirmed transactions page on blockchain. You won't lose any coins either way at least.

I think bitcoin-qt should have a warning if you are about to send a transaction without a small fee. For some reason my wallet had the fee set to zero before I noticed, and it had been awhile since I used that one so I didn't think to check..


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: caga on January 18, 2015, 11:51:17 PM
Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... :(

Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16

You will have to wait till a miner picks it up.

It can take however long, can also be upto a month for it to confirm.


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: newIndia on January 18, 2015, 11:56:04 PM
Just made a transaction 2 days ago ,But I didn't pay the transaction fee, and the transaction is still not be confirmed till now.... :(

Here is the txid: b378edacb9ccaa2d5e9789bd02ce8e1f351a9afe26bd5c6daf8a4b681d476a16

Looks like a huge no. of Tx are left as unconfirmed on this address https://blockchain.info/address/1AYBhpkM64euN5LLhghXuPaz8n3PvT3DbT. You probably have some large unconfirmed input.


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: seriouscoin on January 19, 2015, 01:02:28 AM
there are lots of free transactions that got confirmed but for yours, the transfer value is quite small so it is better to include a fee

Another misinfo, its not about the transfer value, its about PRIORITY. Read bitcoin wiki to learn more about PRIORITY.


Title: Re: Transaction without fee couldn't be confirmed now?
Post by: doubleredrolex on January 20, 2015, 01:00:52 AM
My Blockchain mobile app did that to me. Sent 1 btc with zero fees attached for some reason. Im my settings its set to "generous" and it sent it with nothing. Took about 2 days to confirm. I was not impressed.