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Make sure you're not "spamming" on their platform, so you don't get your account flagged/deleted.

I'm only sending 1 message to each person's wall. That's fine isn't it?

I don't have Bitcoin people in my network.

WIll I be able to tip anyway?

I don't have Bitcoin people in my network.

WIll I be able to tip anyway?

I assume for us, mortals, it is "safe", yes.
But, there's always a "but".

If it goes viral, it will cause a lot of "spam" on their network. They're known for their censorship.

ChangeTip is not a new concept, it looks very similar to QuickCoin, (http://www.quickcoin.co/) launched a year ago.

They use Bits unit, awesome!

visit /r/dogecoin for some tipping tips.  i'm glad some people are starting to do this.

Yes, that's what is so cool about it. You can introduce people to bitcoin by giving it to them.

Yeah except I never heard about that and so never used it. I like ChangeTip and I trust it.


It's great to start getting "bits" more widely used. I explain to people that there are 1,000,000 bits in each bitcoin, so they understand the term.


It's funny how on the dogecoin sub-reddit there's posts bragging about how they have been doing it forever and the bitcoin users are finally catching on.

Me personally: I don't want to tip in dogecoin.

And I'm guessing a lot of other people don't either, which is probably why it never caught on as much as a bitcoin tipping application. Bitcoin is the #1 cryptocurrency so it would make sense that any popular app would catch much more adoption with it than other coins.

out of the 5 tips I have sent out only one was Delivered 4 are still out for delivery  :-\

sure.  but in defense to dogecoin...  http://dogecointimeline.com

they have quite done a lot as well.  not bad for a 'gag currency'.

people still use kikebook

in 2015

good goys

Cool idea, but 'ChangeTip?'  Really? That was really the best name they could come up with? I know non english speaking Nigerians that could come up with a better, more fitting name than that.

Antisemitism still exists? In 2015?

This is awesome. ChangeTip.com (https://www.changetip.com/) now allows you to send bitcoin to another user's wall on Facebook.

I have just sent the most bitcoin today that I have in a long time because of ChangeTip now working on Facebook.

Judging from the scrolling list of ChangeTip transactions (under your ChangeTip account page) it looks like about 75% of ChangeTip's tipping is being done by Facebook users now. That's huge, and it just came out.

I'm tipping the shit out of everyone of my friend's list. I just spent $40 at CoinBase to do so. You don't have to send much, just like 25 cents or even less if you want.

You can see who accepted the tip in your ChangeTip account as well. Pretty cool. 3 people already accepted my tip.

I suspect this will make bitcoin go viral.

I suggest everyone does it. If only 5% of people on my friends list gets and uses bitcoin as a result of this, that's a big deal! And they may send to others, and so on.

Chaaarge!


http://shotcallin.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/91475649/fb_changetipping.gif

this could be the thing that catches fire for the masses.
added my fb to changetip today, will be spamming some celeb royalty.

There was another company that used FB before, but i cant even remember their name now ... :( anyone recall?

I will do this but not just randomly. Maybe as a congratulations or a happy birthday. It is probably best to tip someone who is having a good day.

People tend to like something if they experience it on a good day.

And I'm guessing a lot of other people don't either, which is probably why it never caught on as much as a bitcoin tipping application.

Yeah, what was that about?

I can't think of a better way to grow interest (re. raise price)... we should all be tipping newbs with a link for sign up.
It's in our power to increase awareness and actually make a tangible difference!

I can. Show them the benefits of using bitcoin, don't give it away for free.

If you give away something of value (in this case bitcoin) for free then the receiver will likely just sell it for fiat cash

I can. Show them the benefits of using bitcoin, don't give it away for free.

If you give away something of value (in this case bitcoin) for free then the receiver will likely just sell it for fiat cash

Might be an idea to have a schedule of donation suggestions on a daily basis. If enough people follow it, it would draw media attention and possibly raise some money for a few good causes. Like on veterans day, we could donate a few bits to a vets support fb page (hope there is an official one!).

Also, it would spread the word quicker because (presumably) people would be paying attention to 'veterans day pages' on vets day, and if they see people donating via changetip en masse they will want to join in.

Theres almost something on everyday, so there's no limit on targets. Just check Google home page too!  

Theres a list of 'on this day in history' entries on this site:
http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history

tomorrow is Nat Geo's birthday (Jan 27, 1888 National Geographic Society founded) - so, to expand on my idea, tomorrow we could send a small tip each to National Geographic magazine:
https://www.facebook.com/natgeo
would be interesting to see if it gains momentum and if the media pick it up, would certainly give BTC users a positive spin for once...


the next day is the anniversary of challenger exploding, we could mass tip NASA:
https://www.facebook.com/NASA

Jan 29, 1936 U.S. Baseball Hall of Fame elects first members
https://www.facebook.com/baseballhall

Jan 30, 1948 Gandhi assassinated
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Gandhi-Peace-Foundation/585948858204481

Jan 31, 1950 Truman announces development of H-bomb
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Nuclear-Age-Peace-Foundation/108290839199798

Feb 01, 1884 Oxford Dictionary debuts
https://www.facebook.com/OxfordDictionaries

etc etc

thats a pretty good idea, ill follow it, ppl always read the comments on facebook im sure they will ask them selfs, what is this tip thing all about.
pretty much all the fb pages listed above are high traffic pages so is a great targeting strategy.

So how does this work for Facebook?

I just sent a tip to my sister via Facebook for her birthday.

I check her wall and it doesn't show anything, on my ChangeTip page it shows "Out for delivery". Is it supposed to show up on the person's wall?

It will show up something like this

http://media.coindesk.com/2015/01/changetipfacebook1-630x383.jpg

On her changetip account, the btc amount would show up there as well. Nowadays fund transfer happen almost instantaneously.

Tipping is a nuanced act that requires some social savvy, tact, and grace. Here are some quick tips to reduce the cringe factor associated with tipping strangers online:

    Selfishness and tipping do not mix. Do not tip because you want something, such as increased exposure for Bitcoin. Do not tip someone to get something later. Tip only because you unconditionally want to give something nice to someone else.

    Tip only when there is a service that was rendered that is of immediate benefit to you. Do not tip out of sympathy. Human emotions are not denominated in dollars or Bitcoins. No one wants to know that you feel $1 worth of sad.

    The tip must be commensurate with the service performed and the utility received. No fractional pennies, in fact, no pennies at all. If you wouldn't pick it up off the floor, don't give it to someone else as a gift. A tip that has a low net present value is downright offensive.

    And we live in the here and now. No one cares if you believe your measly one ten thousandth of a Bitcoin will be enough to go to the moon some day. Mark it to market.

    Do not tip people who work out of love or passion. Do not tip people who are kind to you. Do not tip anyone just for being themselves, especially if they have lived through an adverse event or illness.

    Do not tip people whose accomplishments dwarf yours. Keep in mind that when you're behind a made-up username, you look indistinguishable from the know-nothing-did-nothings and loquacious shills that crowd out social media; "anoncryptoman" is the equivalent of a Victorian street urchin -- do not tip from such an account to someone whose real-world identity is known.

    Do not tip people who have dedicated their lives to what they believe is a higher purpose.

    Do not tip government employees, accountants, military personnel, and financial officers, who need to keep their finances clean of conflicts of interest.

    Do not tip judges, doctors, nurses, EMTs, cops, DAs, professors, construction workers, in fact, any professional of any kind outside the service sector.

    Do not tip members of the Night's Watch.

    And please, and I'm not making this up, do not tip Oprah! Or Bill Gates for that matter.

    If you feel that the situation calls for a microtip, do it privately. In cultures with extensive tipping, you always slip the cash discreetly, often through a handshake. Remember, it's a selfless act, neither your ego nor your public perception ought to be involved, so there is no justification to do it publicly.

But overall, it is far better in most cases to organize a charity drive than to drive-by-drop a few penny shavings. These microtips have never made the world a better place, in the same way that those New-Agey emails about how someone once paid for someone else's toll on their commute never accomplished any lasting societal change for the better. As the New Age flakes like to say, not all who wander are lost -- but they sure get in the way of other people. Changing the world is difficult and requires concentrated action. Penny gifts are a dead-end distraction, an easy way to appease one's conscience and justify inaction.

Finally, some people trot out the argument that the online tipping mania is harmless. It's very much not, because the underlying motivations are all too clear and reflect on all of us. It's at best spammy. Tipping penny pieces to increase the value of one's Bitcoin holdings is duplicitous. And yes, even people who were "making it rain in the club" have actually been sued for throwing cash at people. Not everyone is hunting and hurting for dollars, and normal people would like to earn a living with dignity. Penny tipping violates social norms and makes the Bitcoin community look cringeworthy, which in turn is bad for Bitcoin.

Pleeeaaase, if you are going to tip people:

1. Tip enough that they can actually buy something with the tip. Otherwise, it's just spam, and will probably annoy them more than anything.
2. Give them info on how to spend it! A link to the Wiki might suffice: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Trade

If they think it's just a few cents of useless monopoly money, they won't even bother to claim it. On the other hand, if you make them understand they can go right ahead and order a Pizza with what you just gave them... That has actual merit.

Let me quote a ChangeTip detractor:

http://hackingdistributed.com/2014/12/17/changetip-must-die/

(I definitely don't agree with all that, but it's still worth reading as it describes how you might appear to others, as a fanatic...)

Smart move for changetip to gun for facebook. I expect wider adoption will progress for now. Maybe value will stabilize? Who knows? Good start for the year, leading up to the coming projects, i hope.

out of the 5 tips I have sent out only one was Delivered 4 are still out for delivery  :-\

People have been trained not to click links they don't recognize or understand.

This is going to be the biggest hurdle to adoption.

-B-

Maybe they should allow a way to claim back the tips which haven't been accepted

That's actually a really good idea.  Someone should suggest it (politely) on the changetip reddit sub.  The guys involved in changetip don't seem to be the type to get greedy at this stage, so I don't think they'd say a blanket "no" to the suggestion at all.  In fact unclaimed tips are going to be a major problem (large quantity) in the future.  So its an issue that should be addressed early on.

I think may be a timer with an expiration, and the funds are put back into your account.   They collect fees only if the tip is collected.

-B-

dont really agree with that imo; tipping small amounts to showcase the potential of BTC i think is ok, and not really comparable to tipping in the real world - its not done for the amount actually tipped or the implied 'generosity' behind it, but just to showcase what can be done with the tech. At least i think it is for most users at this point in time, in the future when 'everyone' uses btc tipping systems (or similar) casually in every day life then it will be more analogous to tipping in the real world and the etiquette would be comparable. but for now i think were focused more on spreading adoption.

any halfway intelligent market/promo person (particularly involved with charities im thinking) who notices lots of people tipping organisations on fb or twitter will see the potential for 'viral fundraising' if they adopt it and look into getting it on board (regardless of how much people tip these days with it, they hopefully see the potential as a new means to raise funds).
and adoption spreads though these kinds of actions, when they see other people using BTC with changetip or whatever else, they are more likely to look into it for themselves - i cant think of a better way to get the average person into it than changetip/facebook (and i cant see how to get an organisations attention in a better way either: lots of people sending them money?!).

Now - im thinking more about people tipping organisations, not individuals tipping a few cents to each other randomly (regarding that much i can see what youre talking about more, so - maybe were coming at this from different angles). for individuals i agree its better to send something substantial and point them to somewhere they can use it.