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Title: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: bbxx on January 18, 2015, 09:13:11 PM Hi
I was annoyed with stock fans at antminer S5. They are too loud. I bought 2x AAB 15-blade 9dB fans. They are looking great. Good performance and perfect quality. It stabilised S5 at 65 celsius (20 intake), and gives only 45dB (from 0.5 m) They cost about 8$ http://aab.com.pl/pl/p/AAB-Cooling-Silent-Jet-Fan-12-PWM/1702 There is video of my mod: http://youtu.be/7TANw6DeIy0 some photos: http://i58.tinypic.com/9hq8fb.jpg http://i57.tinypic.com/dxl5ip.jpg after hour of hashing temps are ok :) http://i60.tinypic.com/ngyhjc.jpg feel free to copycat :) Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: valkir on January 18, 2015, 10:17:02 PM 170 m3/h is around 100 cfm.
Its low for the S5. This is why your temp is around 65. You should try to get below 60. (IMO) But nice setup! 100 cfm for 20 db is pretty nice. ;D Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: dogie on January 18, 2015, 11:16:00 PM 170 m3/h is around 100 cfm. Its low for the S5. This is why your temp is around 65. You should try to get below 60. (IMO) But nice setup! 100 cfm for 20 db is pretty nice. ;D 45 dba. Its worth pointing out that the temps are above what would be considered acceptable, even with a 20C ambient and so these particular fans won't be appropriate for most. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: Rabinovitch on January 19, 2015, 04:56:49 PM One important point: there is 0 HW errors. So who said that 60+ degrees is unacceptable temperature?..
Take a look at my overclocking results - maximum value of HWE is 0.02%. So relax and enjoy silent S5s. ;) Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: GenTarkin on January 19, 2015, 06:25:48 PM One important point: there is 0 HW errors. So who said that 60+ degrees is unacceptable temperature?.. One thing to keep in mind is its just not the temp of the ASICs themselves thats important but the VRM's and if the VRM's dont get enough cooling, those things will light up like fireballs.Take a look at my overclocking results - maximum value of HWE is 0.02%. So relax and enjoy silent S5s. ;) That is unless they over engineered the VRM and it runs nice n cool, but on bitcoin mining ASICs thats hardly ever the case, they cheap around any corner they can. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: bbxx on January 19, 2015, 06:29:19 PM s5 build is string type so i thnik there is no problem with vrms :)
24h of hashing and still about 64 celsius very quiet and stable. for 16$ - stock fan value (more than 10$) it is worth :) Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: MyRig on January 20, 2015, 01:27:29 AM @ bbxx!
What is the decibel level now????? s5 build is string type so i thnik there is no problem with vrms :) 24h of hashing and still about 64 celsius very quiet and stable. for 16$ - stock fan value (more than 10$) it is worth :) Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: Zich on January 20, 2015, 01:36:56 AM @ bbxx! What is the decibel level now????? It's 45 dB now according to OP. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: valkir on January 20, 2015, 03:14:53 AM I love winter! ;D
15 dba One tube http://www.rona.ca/images/0082101_L.jpg and 350M temps 55 52 ;D Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: johnyj on January 20, 2015, 05:08:31 AM Interesting fan, have you compared it with GT1850 ?
Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: dogie on January 20, 2015, 06:51:16 AM s5 build is string type so i thnik there is no problem with vrms :) 24h of hashing and still about 64 celsius very quiet and stable. for 16$ - stock fan value (more than 10$) it is worth :) There are plenty of things on that board that require cooling other than the chips themselves. Won't someone please think of the non-chip components? Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: aurel57 on January 20, 2015, 10:37:57 AM Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: bbxx on January 20, 2015, 02:54:27 PM If anybody is intersted with those fans i can order them and reship for you.
AAB is polish company and i live in poland so it is not a problem for me. Price will be 30$ for pair shipped :) no $ margin for me, just tips to BitmainWarranty 20cm from miner it is 54dB, 50cm 43 dB you can sleep near thoose fans no problem :) S5 is hashing 40 hours with no issues. maybe you should consider cooperation with AAB and ship unit with thoose fans ? Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: Gprime31 on January 20, 2015, 10:19:34 PM Nice...
by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. :) see for your self: https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf chapter: 4Electrical Character section: 4.2. have a nice day :) and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: valkir on January 20, 2015, 10:54:26 PM Nice... by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. :) see for your self: https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf chapter: 4Electrical Character section: 4.2. have a nice day :) and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! Nice link thanks you. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: dogie on January 21, 2015, 01:04:00 AM Nice... by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. :) see for your self: https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf chapter: 4Electrical Character section: 4.2. have a nice day :) and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! I said this in the other thread, 125C is a TJ, the sensor you're reading is likely on the PCB and so when its reading 70C, its probably 120C on the actual chip. Do your own research before asking others to do their research when your advise may be catastrophic for their products. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: valkir on January 21, 2015, 01:33:07 AM Nice... by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. :) see for your self: https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf chapter: 4Electrical Character section: 4.2. have a nice day :) and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! I said this in the other thread, 125C is a TJ, the sensor you're reading is likely on the PCB and so when its reading 70C, its probably 120C on the actual chip. Do your own research before asking others to do their research when your advise may be catastrophic for their products. Thanks for the clarification. :) Actually Gprime31 is 1 post account so :P Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: Gprime31 on January 21, 2015, 03:26:39 AM look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine.
don't listen to these clueless people. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: IITravel01 on January 21, 2015, 03:31:06 AM Mine, a pair has been running at 70 C low to 76C high for a week, less than 10 HW errors every day.
Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: valkir on January 21, 2015, 03:47:21 AM look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine. don't listen to these clueless people. Clueless ?? It's dogie man! You should take time to read a little bit more the forum and learn about what your talking about. Dogie is highly respected in the community for evaluation of all kind of miner. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: stonerider on January 21, 2015, 04:03:42 AM ^^^^^^^
That's pretty funny. Dogie's guides are for noobs. I never found his guides to be useful, sure they're in high definition and big ass pictures. But, the contents are a bit lacking. Just because someone's popular doesn't mean he's perfect for everyone. I personally don't need big ass pictures, I'd like more info. Big ass pictures don't do anything for me, without proper written guides. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: philipma1957 on January 21, 2015, 04:25:17 AM look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine. don't listen to these clueless people. 70 c is a bit high. 50 to 64 c would be a better bet. If I ran your fans I would downclock to freq 300-325. have to say the noise level is good. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: jmumich on January 21, 2015, 06:57:15 AM look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine. don't listen to these clueless people. It may run at those temps fine now, but higher temps will likely degrade performance over time. That might not have been a big deal before when we were seeing double digit difficulty increases, but difficulty has been relatively flat for a couple months now. I'd underclock like others have suggested ... taking off 100-150Ghs seems worth it to keep it running longer. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: conceptxp on January 21, 2015, 07:05:17 AM 80dba+ stock fan.... running like a mofo...
will go find some other fan tomorrow Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: kabopar on January 21, 2015, 08:10:27 AM Nice... by the the new BM1384 chip has a max operating temp of 125c...(weather it's ambient or chip temp not sure) but either way, it can run 60-70c just fine..that's why the software has a stop mining is reached 80c checkbox. :) see for your self: https://www.bitmaintech.com/files/download/BM1384_Datasheet_v2.0.pdf chapter: 4Electrical Character section: 4.2. have a nice day :) and the vrm's and other components are the same way new = better DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! If you actually do some 'research', you may find about the Arrhenius equation and the relationship between temperature and failure ratehttp://reliawiki.com/index.php/Arrhenius_Relationship (http://reliawiki.com/index.php/Arrhenius_Relationship). Failure rate increases exponentially with temperature (in Kelvin). As Dogie pointed out, using the maximum specified junction temperature of the ASIC as if it was the ambient temperature and applied to all components is flawed. I totally agree with Aurel's graphic that you need to get your RMA forms ready (just to be rejected by any sensible supplier who would claim that you operated well outside the specified envelope). Looks like the OP is a gambling person, according to his banner... Cheers Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: bbxx on January 21, 2015, 08:30:07 AM Looks like the OP is a gambling person, according to his banner... No. I like get btc for free, luckyflop is signature campain. I put those little money into altcoins so it is form of gamble :) I have setup >200 standalone miners, some farms, i got very big experience with variety of miners, chips etc. Only few of my miners died, coincidentially dragons and ccdesks. I have modded large chunk of my stuff for fun and noise reduction. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: jmumich on January 21, 2015, 08:43:31 AM Looks like the OP is a gambling person, according to his banner... No. I like get btc for free, luckyflop is signature campain. I put those little money into altcoins so it is form of gamble :) I have setup >200 standalone miners, some farms, i got very big experience with variety of miners, chips etc. Only few of my miners died, coincidentially dragons and ccdesks. I have modded large chunk of my stuff for fun and noise reduction. If it's fun, and it works for you, great. But the mod you suggested is risky, you do acknowledge that? If so, it can't hurt to point that out so that others know what risk they're taking by running at higher temps. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: KeezAZA on January 21, 2015, 01:50:23 PM chances are we are most likely experiencing this setup with the S5s.
http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/antminer-s1-thermal-performance/ (http://cryptomining-blog.com/tag/antminer-s1-thermal-performance/) Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: goxed on January 23, 2015, 11:20:40 AM An even cheaper mod would is to trick the temp sensors into lowering fan speed to the lowest range.
https://i.imgur.com/edKqNHV.jpg Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: etile on January 23, 2015, 01:37:30 PM One important point: there is 0 HW errors. So who said that 60+ degrees is unacceptable temperature?.. Take a look at my overclocking results - maximum value of HWE is 0.02%. So relax and enjoy silent S5s. ;) Temperature from 40 degrees to 60+ degrees can up power consumption by 10+ % Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: superking123 on January 25, 2015, 07:35:03 AM Wanted to contriboot.
The stock fan is only good for sending small Craft into low earth orbit. I'm using 3pin corsair sp120 running full speed off a molex to 6 x 3pin fan board for the push and an af120 @ full speed from the same board. I think the onboard pwm is shit Now I live in Australia and it's summer so ambient temperature is around 30*c and often up to 40*c and my s5 is running at 55*c just slightly underclocked to keep it there. Much happier with that. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: Gprime31 on January 25, 2015, 09:55:32 PM look...it's set to shutdown at 80c so run it 50-70 it will be fine. don't listen to these clueless people. Clueless ?? It's dogie man! You should take time to read a little bit more the forum and learn about what your talking about. Dogie is highly respected in the community for evaluation of all kind of miner. go look the the tear down and see what is and is not covered by the heatsinks and fan...then talk.... Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: kmitz on January 26, 2015, 10:07:58 AM Wanted to contriboot. The stock fan is only good for sending small Craft into low earth orbit. I'm using 3pin corsair sp120 running full speed off a molex to 6 x 3pin fan board for the push and an af120 @ full speed from the same board. I think the onboard pwm is shit Now I live in Australia and it's summer so ambient temperature is around 30*c and often up to 40*c and my s5 is running at 55*c just slightly underclocked to keep it there. Much happier with that. What do you mean by "6 x 3 pin fan board"? The fans are not powered by the S5 itself? Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: superking123 on January 28, 2015, 05:43:10 AM Wanted to contriboot. The stock fan is only good for sending small Craft into low earth orbit. I'm using 3pin corsair sp120 running full speed off a molex to 6 x 3pin fan board for the push and an af120 @ full speed from the same board. I think the onboard pwm is shit Now I live in Australia and it's summer so ambient temperature is around 30*c and often up to 40*c and my s5 is running at 55*c just slightly underclocked to keep it there. Much happier with that. What do you mean by "6 x 3 pin fan board"? The fans are not powered by the S5 itself? Correct. Molex to 6 x 3 pin. The adapters are around $3 and they don't rev up and down just constant speed. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: revelacaogr on April 04, 2015, 08:52:40 PM Noctua NF-F12 IndustrialPPC 3000RPM PWM 120mm High Performance Fan x 2 ( push-pool )
Conceived for industrial heavy duty applications that require enhanced cooling performance and advanced ingress protection, the NF-F12 industrialPPC (Protected Performance Cooling) is a ruggedised high-speed version of the award-winning retail model. Thanks to the outstanding aerodynamic efficiency of the NF-F12 design and the use of a novel three-phase motor, the industrialPPC version provides superior airflow and pressure capacity while keeping noise levels and power consumption moderate as against comparable high-speed fans. While its fibre-glass reinforced polyamide construction and certified water and dust protection make the NF-F12 industrialPPC suitable for operation in challenging environments, the renowned SSO2 bearing technology guarantees an MTBF of over 150,000hrs. Topped off with Noctua's trusted reliability and six year manufacturer's warranty, the NF-F12 industrialPPC is an ideal choice for highly demanding applications that require superior flow rates and ultimate dependability Features: - Based on the award-winning NF-F12 design - 3000rpm PWM industrialPPC version - Three-phase motor design - Fibre-glass reinforced polyamide construction - Certified IP52 water and dust protection - Integrated Anti-Vibration Pads - Six year warranty Specification: - Size: 120x120x25 mm - Connector: 4-pin PWM - Bearing: SSO2 - Blade Geometry: Heptaperf - Frame Technology: FocusedFlow - Rotational Speed (± 10%): 3000 RPM - Airflow: 109.8 CFM - Acoustical Noise: 43.5 dB(A) - Static Pressure: 7.63 mm H2O - Max. Input Power: 3.6 W - Max. Input Current : 0.3 A JUST PERFECT! http://www.noctua.at/main.php?show=productview&products_id=80&lng=en Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: Roccdrummer on January 17, 2016, 04:46:58 AM Best fan!
http://www.enermax.co.uk/fans/twisterstorm/ 159 cfm, 38 decibels, 3500 rpm also, i think the other fans they make are the slickest looking ones i've seen Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: 0bit on January 17, 2016, 06:46:47 PM I sure hope you're underclocking this thing, those two fans aren't gonna keep an S5 cool enough if ambient temps start to get higher.
Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: SLEI on January 18, 2016, 06:12:10 AM Two weeks ago I needed more heat to the house when temperature went down to -27C outside.
Lady of the house is very sensitive to miner related noise so I needed a lot of damping. I had one unused S5 and fixed Arctic F12 to inlet side and S1 fan to outlet. F12 is 3 pin fan and miner beebed so outlet fan is connected to fan1 connector and inlet to fan2. Outlet fan 1560rpm inlet 1200, 20% fan percentage, temps 63 and 59C, room temp about +20C at floor. S5 has miner packing foam at bottom and top is covered with ESD plastic. Power is from pair of parallel DPS600 server powers adjusted to 11,6V; 46db about 1m up from mainer; 350Mhz 1134Ghs avg 5days from last boot, 0,0256% errors. Miner is V1.3 it don't like undervolts below 11,3V. 540W from wall with 2 x DPS600 maybe one would be enought voltage is adjuted so little. Edit2: S5 took the same power with one DPS, interesting result these powers work very well together when current share pin is connected. Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: pinhead666 on January 20, 2016, 12:10:29 AM I draw a little circuit to drive 4 fans with one S5 controller. All fans are powered from pci-e connector so controller won't get over-loaded. Pwm is from controller and fan1 gives rpm-reading. Fan 2 is driven with same pwm than fan1. Now I can use 1 controller to drive 4 hashboards and both miners have 2 fans. I'm currently testing how this works with stock fans.
http://kuvapilvi.fi/k/yznW.jpg Title: Re: Finally not loud Antminer S5, very cheap mod :) Post by: irun4fundotca on June 04, 2016, 11:28:46 PM One important point: there is 0 HW errors. So who said that 60+ degrees is unacceptable temperature?.. Take a look at my overclocking results - maximum value of HWE is 0.02%. So relax and enjoy silent S5s. ;) its recommended to run around 60 if I recall reading in a manual somewhere I know that this is an old thread, however I'm not sure thats a good temp running at stock speeds, I'm running at 400 and have temps at 55 and 59 for the two hash boards getting a stable no error 1,436th/s average, I do notice the throughput drops to 1260th/s below 50 or above 65 temp, so the sweet spot is around 56-58 Im also running a 2440W dell server supply , with a cheap 120mm exhaust fan on the output, one more thing I noticed my temps run much lower when the miner is sitting on a flat surface with the bottom closed by at least 8 degrees lower http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/9/6/1/0/4/a9028188-128-P5250096.JPG |
