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Title: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: bitstarter on July 14, 2012, 07:57:18 PM
I was just on the blockchain.info website and noticed this transaction:
or better yet why?

http://buybtc.info/blockchain.JPG

How does one send 0.00 BTC ?


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: Shirik on July 14, 2012, 08:07:37 PM
Link to the transaction? Your ID is cut off.

I suspect it's not 0 BTC, but rather just such a small number that it doesn't show up.


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: notme on July 14, 2012, 08:08:05 PM
blockchain.info rounds to two decimal points, bitcoin has eight decimal places.


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: bitstarter on July 14, 2012, 08:13:20 PM
Link to the transaction? Your ID is cut off.

I suspect it's not 0 BTC, but rather just such a small number that it doesn't show up.

I don't know I caught it on the transaction scroll bar on blockchain  captured it :P so ..it wasn't mine..


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: bitstarter on July 14, 2012, 08:13:43 PM
blockchain.info rounds to two decimal points, bitcoin has eight decimal places.

ah so it might be cut off ? so might be 0.001 ?


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: notme on July 14, 2012, 08:16:39 PM
blockchain.info rounds to two decimal points, bitcoin has eight decimal places.

ah so it might be cut off ? so might be 0.001 ?

Yep, anything less than 0.005 would show up as 0.00


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: theymos on July 14, 2012, 08:25:49 PM
It is legal to send 0 BTC, but the bitcoin.org client doesn't support sending such transactions. This is useful in some cases.


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: notme on July 15, 2012, 06:25:18 AM
It is legal to send 0 BTC, but the bitcoin.org client doesn't support sending such transactions. This is useful in some cases.

Could you provide an example use case?


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: theymos on July 15, 2012, 07:41:58 AM
Could you provide an example use case?

It's used in hashcoin's payment channels protocol. Miners will need to do it in 100+ years when blocks have no subsidy (if there are no fees). You can use it for tracking an asset without tying up BTC: the asset is represented by the 0-BTC output, and sending this 0-value output to someone (also valid) transfers the asset. You can use it for storing data in the block chain without tying up BTC.


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: notme on July 15, 2012, 04:53:51 PM
Could you provide an example use case?

It's used in hashcoin's payment channels protocol. Miners will need to do it in 100+ years when blocks have no subsidy (if there are no fees). You can use it for tracking an asset without tying up BTC: the asset is represented by the 0-BTC output, and sending this 0-value output to someone (also valid) transfers the asset. You can use it for storing data in the block chain without tying up BTC.

Thanks


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: notme on July 15, 2012, 06:41:42 PM
I really expected it to be Disallowed by the blockchain itself simply for "spam protection"
But yeah i can see how it could be useful

It would likely need a transaction fee attached for it to actually be mined in any reasonable time.


Title: Re: How does one send 0.00 BTC ?
Post by: nimda on July 15, 2012, 07:07:51 PM
Such a transaction, I believe, would have a priority of 0, since priority is the product of age and size. Thus, it would certainly need to carry a fee, unless it was produced by someone who had mined a block.