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Title: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: keystroke on January 23, 2015, 06:16:18 PM
The current version of the whitepaper uploaded on Sourceforge is from 2009-03-24. This is the second version of the whitepaper. The first version was published on 2008-10-31. It was uploaded to www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf which is where the current version also resides. Does anyone have the original version of the whitepaper?

I have emailed the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute but have not heard back from them. Sergio Demian Lerner mentions the first version of the whitepaper on his blog but I have been unable to get him to send me a copy.


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: Billbags on January 23, 2015, 06:59:02 PM
I was talking to Gwern awhile back and he said the same thing....he has heard a rumor of it, but has never been able to locate it.

This is about the only thing I could find.....sorry.

https://web.archive.org/web/20090131115053/http://bitcoin.org/

http://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09959.html

https://www.mail-archive.com/cryptography%40metzdowd.com/msg09964.html

Update: I emailed a friend to see if he has a copy. I'll get back later.......

Update to Update: no copy found. ..


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: runpaint on January 23, 2015, 07:04:15 PM
The first one had a lot more stuff about how people should avoid cloud mining scams, but they removed it because they felt it was too obvious and nobody would actually need to be told that.


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: keystroke on January 23, 2015, 08:31:32 PM
Thanks billbags. I emailed everyone on the cryptography mailing list who had replied but nobody had a copy.

I actually downloaded and read it at the time. But I'm not sure I have a copy. Anyway not on any media which is readily accessible.

I made this reddit thread if anyone wants to upvote : https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2tfcsc/2008_revision_of_bitcoin_whitepaper/


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: Beliathon on January 23, 2015, 09:07:47 PM
The first one had a lot more stuff about how people should avoid cloud mining scams, but they removed it because they felt it was too obvious and nobody would actually need to be told that.
ROFL


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: HarmonLi on January 23, 2015, 10:34:00 PM
Huh, that's really interesting, never heard about that! So there really was a previous draft? Did it contain serious problems, disadvantages or flaws? Or was it just some improvements concerning wording and such? I'd love to hear more about that!


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: runpaint on January 23, 2015, 10:59:38 PM
Huh, that's really interesting, never heard about that! So there really was a previous draft? Did it contain serious problems, disadvantages or flaws? Or was it just some improvements concerning wording and such? I'd love to hear more about that!

Me too, somebody please start a topic asking for a copy of the original draft


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: Gleb Gamow on January 23, 2015, 11:37:56 PM
The first one had a lot more stuff about how people should avoid cloud mining scams, but they removed it because they felt it was too obvious and nobody would actually need to be told that.

Please, quit fuckin' with me! https://twitter.com/FirstWhitePaper


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: minerpumpkin on January 24, 2015, 12:18:48 AM
Oh wow, that's interesting! I really wonder why no one is in possession of that document. Someone should do a diff and do a direct side-by-side comparison! I might just go ahead and see if I can find it somewhere online!


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: jaberwock on January 24, 2015, 12:34:14 AM
so, any major difference between first and second version that makes the first worth reading too?


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: thejaytiesto on January 24, 2015, 12:35:55 AM
Oh wow, that's interesting! I really wonder why no one is in possession of that document. Someone should do a diff and do a direct side-by-side comparison! I might just go ahead and see if I can find it somewhere online!
Try this?

https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: R2D221 on January 24, 2015, 12:42:54 AM
Has anybody looked in the Wayback Machine?


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: jaberwock on January 24, 2015, 12:55:57 AM
Has anybody looked in the Wayback Machine?

wayback machine usually doesn't save pictures and files. Specially if it is not a small one, like the Satoshi paper


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: R2D221 on January 24, 2015, 07:30:16 AM
Has anybody looked in the Wayback Machine?

wayback machine usually doesn't save pictures and files. Specially if it is not a small one, like the Satoshi paper

I beg to differ. I once retrieved a Shockwave application from it.


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: keystroke on January 24, 2015, 08:53:27 AM
It is not on the Wayback Machine. I checked some time ago.


Title: Re: 2008 revision of bitcoin whitepaper
Post by: juju on January 24, 2015, 09:13:39 AM
The current version of the whitepaper uploaded on Sourceforge is from 2009-03-24. This is the second version of the whitepaper. The first version was published on 2008-10-31. It was uploaded to www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf which is where the current version also resides. Does anyone have the original version of the whitepaper?

I have emailed the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute but have not heard back from them. Sergio Demian Lerner mentions the first version of the whitepaper on his blog but I have been unable to get him to send me a copy.


Someone says that a copy is in the blockchain - https://blockexplorer.com/tx/54e48e5f5c656b26c3bca14a8c95aa583d07ebe84dde3b7dd4a78f4e4186e713

http://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photographs.html - Scroll Down

Who knows if its the one which is available currently also.

This is pretty interesting: https://bitslog.wordpress.com/2014/06/19/how-you-will-not-uncover-satoshi/