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Title: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Xiaoxiao on January 29, 2015, 10:24:25 AM
What I mean is, the Bitcoin community needs a new slogan and campaign of huge proportions about the Bitstamp recent hacking.  Something similar to the HIV/AIDS awareness in the 90s.

Why?  Because people are still losing coins by sending to old Bitstamp address.  Looks like there has been over $50,000 sent to the old addresses, and that was several weeks ago.  I'm not sure what the numbers are now but I'm sure it is growing.

I say we call the campaign:

OLD BITSTAMP IS SHIT BITSTAMP!


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Lethn on January 29, 2015, 10:27:37 AM
It's not Bitstamps fault if people don't check their support messages, I'd say they've done very well given they were hacked recently.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Xiaoxiao on January 29, 2015, 10:30:06 AM
It's not Bitstamps fault if people don't check their support messages, I'd say they've done very well given they were hacked recently.

Are you serious?  Do you know how many people have saved bitstamp addresses for automatic cashouts from whatever services they use because stamp is supposed to be reliable?

What if someone was on vacation and the service they used did an automatic payout to stamp after the hack?  What if one used a 2nd email that they don't check regularly for their bitstamp account.

These scenarios are many.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Lethn on January 29, 2015, 10:51:03 AM
Yeah, as I said, it's your own fucking fault for not checking, it doesn't matter if you're going on holiday or not, what kind of dumbass leaves bots and transactions running like that assuming everything will be okay once an exchange has been hacked?

People, especially people who deal with a lot of money in Bitcoin and have experience in it, should know better.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: turvarya on January 29, 2015, 10:56:40 AM
Yeah, as I said, it's your own fucking fault for not checking, it doesn't matter if you're going on holiday or not, what kind of dumbass leaves bots and transactions running like that assuming everything will be okay once an exchange has been hacked?

People, especially people who deal with a lot of money in Bitcoin and have experience in it, should know better.
I second that.
It is definitly not Bitstamp's fault.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: cshelswell on January 29, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
I'll 3rd that. Most exchanges just disappear, Bitstamp dealt with it really well and set back up quickly.

It's certainly not their fault if people don't check their emails. On that what bitcoiner (a technology based currency) doesn't check their emails?!


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Madness on January 29, 2015, 11:10:33 AM
I'll 3rd that. Most exchanges just disappear, Bitstamp dealt with it really well and set back up quickly.

It's certainly not their fault if people don't check their emails. On that what bitcoiner (a technology based currency) doesn't check their emails?!

and I will 4th that ;) Now if Bitsmap didn't sent private messages or emails for the users about their hack and about them changing their adress then it's basically people's fault for not checking the website/email . I mean even if they don't check their emails ... like how in the world they didn't hear of the hack , it's everywhere on the news Press , TV , everywhere ..;
the point is it's not Bitsmap fault and will never be in any case


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Q7 on January 29, 2015, 01:09:31 PM
I think they did a good job to remain as a credible exchanger and we shouldn't put the blame on them just because someone else completely ignores the message and made silly mistakes.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: RockMinerOops on January 29, 2015, 01:13:32 PM
It's really very simple.

Idiots gonna idiot.

If you are dumb enough to do auto payouts to an address that you don't have the private key to, then that's no ones fault but your own. Period.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: CoinCidental on January 29, 2015, 01:20:09 PM
a better campain to start  would be to use your own wallet instead of an exchange adddress  for incoming  deposits
,third party payments and ad signature payments you may be getting

only an idiot would leave money in an exchange after the last 5 years of catastrophic failures

you can always send it to the exchange IF NECESSARY

you should NOT use an exchange for storage like a bank  


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: twister on January 29, 2015, 01:31:31 PM

you can always send it to the exchange IF NECESSARY

you should NOT use an exchange for storage like a bank  



Never leave money in an exchange, go there do the trade and get out. Bitstamp cannot be blamed in this because they paid out to people who got affected and informed everyone about it, after that it was not their fault if users still kept using the hacked addresses.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: lolled on January 29, 2015, 01:35:00 PM
It's not Bitstamps fault if people don't check their support messages, I'd say they've done very well given they were hacked recently.

They should probab;y call each one of them personally and inform them about not using their old addresses


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: mayax on January 29, 2015, 06:07:53 PM
https://blockchain.info/address/1L2JsXHPMYuAa9ugvHGLwkdstCPUDemNCf   ---- another 200K :)


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: cozk on January 29, 2015, 06:11:04 PM
Ah yes. The "hack".

I made a dream last night.
In that dream exchange operators all over the web were taking BTC from their exchange and calling it a hack.
Everybody believed it. Life is good.

Then again that is just a "dream"


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Xiaoxiao on January 29, 2015, 09:57:23 PM
I'm not debating whose fault it is.  I'm saying there needs to be a MOVEMENT.  Banners on forums.  Stickies.  Slogans.  Signs.  ETC ETC

I'm not debating the idiotic things people do.  I'm making a statement that the forums and online crypto news is not doing enough to make this known even more.

I'm not putting fault on anyone.  I'm not blaming bitstamp.  It was unfortunate.  I made this post so that people will blow this thing out of proportions.  i want people's faces to be tatooed with the following:

Do not send to old bitstamp address

You see what I'm saying?


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Lauda on January 29, 2015, 10:00:42 PM
Yeah, as I said, it's your own fucking fault for not checking, it doesn't matter if you're going on holiday or not, what kind of dumbass leaves bots and transactions running like that assuming everything will be okay once an exchange has been hacked?

People, especially people who deal with a lot of money in Bitcoin and have experience in it, should know better.
I second that.
It is definitly not Bitstamp's fault.
I'm agreeing on this as well. This is the fault of the people. Anyone who is smart enough won't let this happen to himself.

There have been many hacks, there isn't a need for any movement. We should rather let this 'dark time' slip by, not promote it everywhere.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Xiaoxiao on January 29, 2015, 10:03:32 PM
Yeah, as I said, it's your own fucking fault for not checking, it doesn't matter if you're going on holiday or not, what kind of dumbass leaves bots and transactions running like that assuming everything will be okay once an exchange has been hacked?

People, especially people who deal with a lot of money in Bitcoin and have experience in it, should know better.
I second that.
It is definitly not Bitstamp's fault.
I'm agreeing on this as well. This is the fault of the people. Anyone who is smart enough won't let this happen to himself.

There have been many hacks, there isn't a need for any movement. We should rather let this 'dark time' slip by, not promote it everywhere.

It is awareness purposes, so that more people don't send money to the thief.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Lethn on January 29, 2015, 10:04:46 PM
We've done all we can, constantly I am warning people not to leave their money in online wallets for a long time, to backup their wallets just to be safe, to make sure they double check things before sending money. Do they listen? No, the information is there for people intelligent enough to read it and listen to us, even Satoshi who made Bitcoin laid out a whitepaper detailing exactly how Bitcoin works but people still fucking choose to ignore it and on purpose on top of that.

When a human being deliberately ignores all scientific and mathematical reasoning provided to them with no effort on their behalf, they are beyond help.


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: MrTeal on January 29, 2015, 10:09:58 PM
We've done all we can, constantly I am warning people not to leave their money in online wallets for a long time, to backup their wallets just to be safe, to make sure they double check things before sending money. Do they listen? No, the information is there for people intelligent enough to read it and listen to us, even Satoshi who made Bitcoin laid out a whitepaper detailing exactly how Bitcoin works but people still fucking choose to ignore it and on purpose on top of that.

When a human being deliberately ignores all scientific and mathematical reasoning provided to them with no effort on their behalf, they are beyond help.
There actually hasn't been that many transactions to the old addresses. It's just that there's been a couple massive ones.
https://blockchain.info/address/1QFdhkbuvXgtHy2trofcp3dS9hZXvA9kox
700 BTC gone a week after the hack happened? Derp


Title: Re: There really needs to be a MOVEMENT about recent Bitstamp hack!
Post by: Lauda on January 29, 2015, 10:58:54 PM
It is awareness purposes, so that more people don't send money to the thief.
We should raise awareness in regards to security measures. Mentioning old hacks (this one is fresh though) isn't really helping. The people rarely listen, but the businesses often do.
Well that's just my opinion.