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Title: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: NotHatinJustTrollin on January 29, 2015, 02:57:25 PM
http://www.coindesk.com/researcher-suggests-isis-fundraising-bitcoin/



looks like ISIS is fundraising with bitcoin, and for some fine gentlemen this is actually good news™

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=856931.0


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with bitcoin.
Post by: NotHatinJustTrollin on January 29, 2015, 03:01:27 PM
From that thread I posted
"I think this is a great opportunity to show them Bitcoin and get some users from the Middle East. The anonymity and low fees are sure to be a turn on. How can we spread the word and help Bitcoin go TO THE MOON!?"




Wow gentlemen, wow.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: kwukduck on January 29, 2015, 03:07:33 PM
So? Whats your point here? We should ban bitcoin?
I'm pretty sure they will exchange into fiat before doing something nasty with the money.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: NeuroticFish on January 29, 2015, 03:11:03 PM
Good thing that they use Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin can be traced - within some limits, I know.
Maybe somebody really good will find out who funds those mofos and bring them to justice!


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: kwukduck on January 29, 2015, 03:14:23 PM
I guess there's a good thing to the price decline now...
IS is now up to 80% less funded and able to cause terror.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: NotHatinJustTrollin on January 29, 2015, 03:15:02 PM
So? Whats your point here?
Aside from showing that bitcoin can facilitate terrorism funding (and according to that coindesk article, already is), that some people here think that terrorists jumping on board is good news that will help bitcoin go to the moon and that arguing that an association with terrorism is enough to bring draconian regulations to bitcoin and potentially kill it, none.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: kwukduck on January 29, 2015, 03:20:40 PM
So? Whats your point here?
Aside from showing that bitcoin can facilitate terrorism funding (and according to that coindesk article, already is), that some people here think that terrorist jumping on board is good news that will help bitcoin go to the moon and that arguing that an association with terrorism is enough to bring draconian regulations to bitcoin and potentially kill it, none.

I don't think it's positive for the image of bitcoin, then again, people generally don't seem to care that the large majority of terrorism is funded in USD... It will be used as an argument against bitcoin but it's not all that strong. Bitcoin currently has much bigger problems that prevent its growth.

I don't think you want to restrict certain groups from using it either, that would break some very fundamental ideas on which bitcoin was created.

There are much more efficient ways to deal with criminals of any kind.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: NotHatinJustTrollin on January 29, 2015, 03:26:44 PM
Good thing that they use Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin can be traced - within some limits, I know.
Maybe somebody really good will find out who funds those mofos and bring them to justice!
Coin mixing can be used to hide traces in the blockchain.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: NeuroticFish on January 29, 2015, 03:31:56 PM
Good thing that they use Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin can be traced - within some limits, I know.
Maybe somebody really good will find out who funds those mofos and bring them to justice!
Coin mixing can be used to hide traces in the blockchain.


Coin mixing is not perfect - big amounts are not "perfectly" mixed, I heard.
Coin mixing is risky - you send money to a 3rd party and you hope you'll get money back.
Coin mixing is quite an advanced feature and I don't expect ISIS to spend much time on these forums.
So I still think that there's hope...


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: bclcjunkie on January 29, 2015, 04:01:31 PM
oh my why am i not surprised... looks like coindesk is whoring for mainstream media now..

"Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz has reported that S2T analyst Ido Wulkan managed to find concrete evidence linking an ISIS cell based in the US to fundraising activities. The cell apparently used the dark web and bitcoin to cover its tracks."


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: thresher on January 29, 2015, 04:09:31 PM
Funding terrorism with 5 btc that will get them far lmao. 


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: tarmi on January 29, 2015, 04:13:03 PM
lol

you must be really stupid to collect bitcoins for terrorism activities. you can follow the trail that coins leave on the blockchain much easier than fiat.

and then...

http://presscore.ca/nbg/fp-content/images/tomahawk-ani.gif


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: zeroday on January 29, 2015, 04:14:36 PM
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The bitcoin address listed on the site received around 5 BTC before being shut down.

LOL. I want to shutdown a few more addresses. Can anybody help me ? :)


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: chaosknight on January 29, 2015, 04:29:49 PM
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The bitcoin address listed on the site received around 5 BTC before being shut down.

LOL. I want to shutdown a few more addresses. Can anybody help me ? :)
i think he wanted to say shutdown of website not bitcoin address


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: UnDerDoG81 on January 29, 2015, 05:15:04 PM
Whuut CIA is paying ISIS with Bitcoins now? Well, it is way more annonym than $$$


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: arvindr on January 29, 2015, 08:04:51 PM
Good thing that they use Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin can be traced - within some limits, I know.
Maybe somebody really good will find out who funds those mofos and bring them to justice!
Coin mixing can be used to hide traces in the blockchain.


Its not always the case .I am sure those mixing sites store transaction data somewhere, and if something serious happens, then they can probably be made to give up the information to the governemnt.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: orpington on January 29, 2015, 08:21:32 PM
Whuut CIA is paying ISIS with Bitcoins now? Well, it is way more annonym than $$$

That's about the size of it.

The US govt has decided to start funding their ISIS/ISIL/IS/AlQaeda creation with Bitcoin!


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: Buffer Overflow on January 30, 2015, 05:21:38 AM
I think ISIS get a large amount of funding from oil.

We need to ban oil!


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: waterpile on January 30, 2015, 06:26:12 AM
LoL terrorism + bitcoins, unending funds for destruction..


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with bitcoin.
Post by: redhawk979 on January 30, 2015, 02:14:55 PM
From that thread I posted
"I think this is a great opportunity to show them Bitcoin and get some users from the Middle East. The anonymity and low fees are sure to be a turn on. How can we spread the word and help Bitcoin go TO THE MOON!?"




Wow gentlemen, wow.

I made that thread as a joke but I should have known it would actually happen.

TO THE MOON


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: Neg on January 30, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
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The bitcoin address listed on the site received around 5 BTC before being shut down.

LOL. I want to shutdown a few more addresses. Can anybody help me ? :)
i think he wanted to say shutdown of website not bitcoin address

What is there address? Would be interesting to see if they received any more donations since.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: MatTheCat on January 30, 2015, 09:17:57 PM
Good thing that they use Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin can be traced - within some limits, I know.
Maybe somebody really good will find out who funds those mofos and bring them to justice!

What?

You mean the CIA or Mossad, or their gofer intermediaries from places like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain?



Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: Bernard Lerring on January 30, 2015, 09:27:31 PM
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Bitcoin to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use a suitcase of dollars to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Litecoin to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Darkcoin to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Doge to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use PGP/GPG to facilitate terrorism!

etc..etc..etc

It's the digital age, gentlemen. If a terrorist can use YouTube he can use a digital wallet. Why blame it on the Bitcoin?


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: RodeoX on January 30, 2015, 09:30:13 PM
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Bitcoin to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use a suitcase of dollars to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Litecoin to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Darkcoin to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Doge to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use PGP/GPG to facilitate terrorism!

etc..etc..etc

It's the digital age, gentlemen. If a terrorist can use YouTube he can use a digital wallet. Why blame it on the Bitcoin?
That's what I think also. They use computers, cars, socks, etc. Are we going to throw out our socks now?


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: Bernard Lerring on January 30, 2015, 09:37:12 PM
^only if they smell of crude toxins! :)


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: Buffer Overflow on January 30, 2015, 09:45:32 PM
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Bitcoin to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use a suitcase of dollars to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Litecoin to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Darkcoin to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use Doge to facilitate terrorism!
Look! ISIS can (and/or will) use PGP/GPG to facilitate terrorism!

etc..etc..etc

It's the digital age, gentlemen. If a terrorist can use YouTube he can use a digital wallet. Why blame it on the Bitcoin?
That's what I think also. They use computers, cars, socks, etc. Are we going to throw out our socks now?

Let's not forget they also breath air which is keeping them alive. Let's ban air.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: leopard2 on January 30, 2015, 09:47:29 PM
CRUDE OIL!!!

number one fundraiser for ISIS. Must be outlawed immediately!!  ::)


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: Warren Buffett on January 30, 2015, 10:17:57 PM
Selling drugs, financing terrorism, scamming people... you kids are really making the world a better place.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: Bernard Lerring on January 30, 2015, 10:25:46 PM
^not being able to read a thread properly... you are really making the forum a better place.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: orpington on January 30, 2015, 10:31:09 PM
Good thing that they use Bitcoin. At least Bitcoin can be traced - within some limits, I know.
Maybe somebody really good will find out who funds those mofos and bring them to justice!

What?

You mean the CIA or Mossad, or their gofer intermediaries from places like Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain?



Yes, unfortunately those mofo-funders are in the US government. Good luck bringing them to justice.  They don't believe in it.


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: traderCJ on January 30, 2015, 10:46:59 PM
you must be really stupid to collect bitcoins for terrorism activities. you can follow the trail that coins leave on the blockchain much easier than fiat.

Good luck with that.  Think they'll ever find the Bitlocker guys?  Or the guys who stole the coins from Bitstamp?


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: orpington on January 30, 2015, 11:02:42 PM
Selling drugs, financing terrorism, scamming people... you kids are really making the world a better place.

Never mind the kids - those activities  bring to mind the American government at its covert best!


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: gogxmagog on January 31, 2015, 09:38:48 AM
I just don't believe anything anymore. The USA is corrupt, the ISIS are insane. News means "disinformation, propaganda and lies"
Is there a btc address for ISIS? I guess we can't see the tx because someone might send them BTC? Seems like a perfect lie. Or not.
I really don't know. But if ISIS is using BTC, they still have to cash out at some point. Unless I here are btc exchanges running out of Syria, they still got no money. Also, if ISIS is using btc, western hackers can make serious legit bank working for the US. Can't see a bunch of head chopping barbarians being all that tech savvy, do you?

Also- post #1000 woot!


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: cryptopaddles on January 31, 2015, 11:44:22 PM
Better to stick with a financial instrument without ties to terrorism like the good Ole USD!!  Oh,  wait a minute...:p


Title: Re: looks like ISIS is fundraising with Bitcoin
Post by: Erdogan on February 01, 2015, 04:15:58 AM
Don't be so hard on ISIS. It's just a small government, craving to establish control of the people in a random area. They will soon learn that to maximise their cut of the prosperity of the people, the people need to have a minimum of stability. When they have total mind control, minimum violence need be expended. Just like here.