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Title: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: jaysabi on January 30, 2015, 09:52:05 PM
Taliban Are Not Terrorists, or So Says the White House
By JONATHAN KARL

They act like terrorists, they regularly kill civilians like terrorists, but the White House does not consider the Afghan Taliban to be a terrorist group.

Semantics aside, the Taliban is suspected in multiple attacks over just the last 48 hours that have killed more than 30 people, including a suicide bombing attack on a funeral in Afghanistan today that killed 16 and wounded 39.

Even so, the White House does not call the Afghan Taliban a terrorist organization, Earnest explained, because they are “different than an organization like al Qaeda that has a much broader global aspiration to carry out acts of violence and acts of terror against Americans and American interests all around the globe.”

The issue has come up because the White House insisted on Wednesday that a prisoner exchange between Jordan and ISIS would be different than the prisoner exchange the United States made last year with the Taliban to gain the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.

“Our policy is that we don't pay ransom. We don't give concessions to terrorist organizations,” Deputy Press Secretary Eric Schultz said Wednesday. “This is a longstanding policy that predates this administration. And it's also one that we've communicated to our friends and allies across the world.”

Schultz explained that the exchange the United States made with the Taliban -- releasing five Taliban prisoners from the Guantanamo Bay detention facility in exchange for the release of Sgt. Bergdahl -- was consistent with that policy because the Taliban is an “armed insurgency” and not a terrorist organization.
 
But the Obama administration isn’t entirely consistent on this point.

On one hand, the Afghan Taliban are not on the State Department’s list of Foreign Terrorist Organizations (the Pakistan Taliban is on that last). On the other hand, the Taliban is on the Treasury Department’s list of Specially Designated Global Terrorists, a classification that allows their assets to be frozen.

And even as Earnest was explaining why the Taliban are not terrorists, he slipped, calling them ... “terrorists.”

“We have not ruled out that there would be some situations in which U.S. service members would still carry out operations in self-defense against the Taliban or other terrorists who are operating in Afghanistan,” Earnest said.

No, no, they're not terrorists because one time we did a prisoner exchange with them, and we would never do a prisoner exchange with terrorists. See how foolproof our logic is?

"Armed insurgency" is the arbitrary definition they're calling the Taliban, a distinction from "terrorists." Although, armed insurgets in America would be called domestic terrorists. Armed insurgents in Palestine are called terrorists. It's embarrassing how transparent these lies are, and it's embarrassing further how there are no consequences for peddling these lies.

Oh yeah, and there's this:

https://i.imgur.com/h69VGie.png


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: Lethn on January 30, 2015, 10:07:40 PM
I think I've just thought of a way to get the PKK delisted as a terrorist organisation by the U.S!


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: pedrog on January 31, 2015, 01:04:07 AM
According to the Taliban, USA is a terrorist organization...


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: (oYo) on January 31, 2015, 02:21:15 AM
According to the Taliban, USA is a terrorist organization...

It's like the pot calling the kettle black. Obviously the majority of Americans are not terrorists, but their country is certainly run by them.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: pedrog on January 31, 2015, 02:35:54 AM
According to the Taliban, USA is a terrorist organization...

It's like the pot calling the kettle black. Obviously the majority of Americans are not terrorists, but their country is certainly run by them.

Agree. Just a matter of perspective.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: jjacob on January 31, 2015, 08:16:26 AM
Haven't you heard - there is a good taliban and a bad taliban as well.  :P


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: Twipple on January 31, 2015, 08:23:20 AM
According to the Taliban, USA is a terrorist organization...

yeah taliban are not terrorist and the USa is not terrorist too but some one use the name of USA/Talibaan  when attacking countries like PAK and someone use name of Taliban attacking in USA


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: JohnLennon on January 31, 2015, 09:23:03 AM
How many times they changed their opinion about the Taliban? Time would have to be defined


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: Yeah? on January 31, 2015, 09:54:27 AM
I think the Taliban should have refused to deal with the US government stating they 'don't negotiate with terrorists'  :D.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: crazykiddo on January 31, 2015, 03:31:51 PM
Taliban is the resistance, their country is conquered by the US. Those civilians killed is only collateral damage. Same with with US using drones. Almost 3/4 of what were killed by the drones are civilians.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: ajaxmoor on January 31, 2015, 03:40:24 PM
I think its all upto the perspective . Taliban is actually a group, and people disagreeing with their vieww call them terrorists.
However, its open to everyone's interpretation.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: Aggressor66 on January 31, 2015, 04:28:32 PM
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: mriulian on January 31, 2015, 04:42:03 PM
It means guys who atacked Charlie Hebdo are not terrorists.. Right? :)) They are just good people playing around with new guns..hmm


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: grendel25 on January 31, 2015, 06:28:13 PM
They want to subjugate women and force everyone to live by a strict religious code.  Humanity would be degraded if they ruled the world.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: jaysabi on February 01, 2015, 01:53:39 AM
They want to subjugate women and force everyone to live by a strict religious code.  Humanity would be degraded if they ruled the world.

I can't tell if you're talking about the Taliban or Republicans.   :D

I'm a laugh riot.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: bill gator on February 06, 2015, 03:12:44 AM
Well USA did give lots of material, arms and intelligence support to assorted mujahideen groups to help them bleed the Russians. The Taliban were one of those groups.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: Spendulus on February 06, 2015, 03:35:05 PM
They want to subjugate women and force everyone to live by a strict religious code.  Humanity would be degraded if they ruled the world.

I can't tell if you're talking about the Taliban or Republicans.   :D

I'm a laugh riot.
Because of where I work, I'm around Republicans all the time.  Can't think of a case in twenty years when one wanted to force me to do anything.

Lots of cases where religious Republicans wanted to talk about their missionary trips to Africa, or other projects they had.  Lots of cases where they asked if I wanted to help on one or another such project. 

I kind of don't think that would be the case with the Taliban.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: manis on February 06, 2015, 08:23:18 PM
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

Standard state propaganda fed to citizens to justify terrorism.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: mriulian on February 08, 2015, 10:29:42 AM
What can we say afterall?


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: medUSA on February 08, 2015, 10:46:14 AM
We know governments change their political stance now and again. It is incredible how they can switch their classification of Taliban like that. Terrorists are not terrorists when they are not carrying attacks, they are civilians! :D

According to the Taliban, USA is a terrorist organization...

Best quote of the day!


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: Agestorzrxx on February 08, 2015, 10:53:13 AM
you call them insurgents only because not only you dont have any control on them but even worse you cant even beat them, that's why you figleaf your shame an weakness by whitewashing their name
look at the picture, these kind of mens are able to beat the bleep out of most powerfull armies in the world : US an Soviet Union...eat that punks, imagine now if they had your warfare, you would cease to exist, that's why its these mens who will liberate Palestine from impostor zionist israel after the nuclear war, its written in the prophecies.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: thejaytiesto on February 08, 2015, 06:58:20 PM
The goverment changes their definition of terrorism every day according to their interests. Nothing new to see here.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: ajareselde on February 08, 2015, 07:28:37 PM
The goverment changes their definition of terrorism every day according to their interests. Nothing new to see here.

Totaly agree with that, but theres something else to consider also; what is the definitions of terorist ?
Take that definition and apply to USA, with all their invasions to eastern countys and the true terrorist becomes abvious.
Saying all talibans are terrorists is also a generalisation and discrimination, even by american standards..


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: picolo on February 08, 2015, 08:05:00 PM
Terrorism is negative but the goal is peace, not calificating a so called ennemy and infect the situation even more.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: BADecker on February 10, 2015, 12:29:38 AM
Of course they're not terrorists. Not to Washington, that is. Why not? Terrorists that work together don't see each other as terrorists.

We have to have drone strikes that kill innocent civilians. Why? Otherwise there wouldn't be any news that we were doing anything, 'cause we almost never hit a terrorist. We would lose our funding if we didn't show that we were doing something. And hitting civilians makes it into the headlines... at least once in a while.

:)


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: pattu1 on February 10, 2015, 12:36:30 AM
Terrorism is negative but the goal is peace

As a wise man said -  there is no path to peace, peace is the path.


Title: Re: Taliban are not terrorists, says White House
Post by: BADecker on February 10, 2015, 12:43:08 AM
Terrorism is negative but the goal is peace

As a wise man said -  there is no path to peace, peace is the path.

But, take your shoes off first.   :)