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Title: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: worhiper_-_ on January 31, 2015, 08:46:07 AM Few months back, the guy steals an account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=858370.0) named mailmansdoge. He's still using this account to date to promte signature campaigns, and spam posts on boards to boost his post count.
BadBear has revealed that he's an alt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=362287) of puzzel.me (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=361804). As puzzel.me he would attempt to extort people in several ways, follow his posts from this account and you'll see a pattern of shady behaviour. He even attempted to blackmail (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=780245.0) developer johny1976. He's now using all those accounts, and maybe even more to earn from signatures and actively spams boards. Leeches give-aways, promotes scams by bumping etc... https://i.imgur.com/ER39REP.png My question is, why is this behaviour accepted? I thought account farming was forbidden, I'm surprised this guy hasn't received a ban to at least one of his accounts after all that he's done. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: Somekindabitcoin on January 31, 2015, 08:50:15 AM Nope. Account farming is not banned. You could make as many as you wish. You could even sell em.
Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: alani123 on January 31, 2015, 08:51:48 AM Nope. Account farming is not banned. You could make as many as you wish. You could even sell em. Account farming is in fact banned. It could earn you a ban in all of your accounts. BadBear has reportedly done this for hundreds of accounts. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: avw1982 on January 31, 2015, 08:59:06 AM Nope. Account farming is not banned. You could make as many as you wish. You could even sell em. why would you buy a account from someone? Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: Somekindabitcoin on January 31, 2015, 09:21:47 AM Nope. Account farming is not banned. You could make as many as you wish. You could even sell em. why would you buy a account from someone? I wouldn't. I've made my own account and haven't changed the password. (Actually, I think I only changed it once. ever.) Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: Quickseller on January 31, 2015, 04:41:14 PM Nope. Account farming is not banned. You could make as many as you wish. You could even sell em. Account farming is in fact banned. It could earn you a ban in all of your accounts. BadBear has reportedly done this for hundreds of accounts. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: alani123 on January 31, 2015, 10:31:48 PM Nope. Account farming is not banned. You could make as many as you wish. You could even sell em. Account farming is in fact banned. It could earn you a ban in all of your accounts. BadBear has reportedly done this for hundreds of accounts. I think this has been discussed before again and again. Badbear has banned hundreds of accounts not just because they had bad quality posts but also because they were used by farmers. You know this very well. The guy in the OP has broken every single rule about signature spamming and account farming. There's no good reason to justify this because as you said it just results in more spamming. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: Quickseller on January 31, 2015, 10:47:16 PM Nope. Account farming is not banned. You could make as many as you wish. You could even sell em. Account farming is in fact banned. It could earn you a ban in all of your accounts. BadBear has reportedly done this for hundreds of accounts. I think this has been discussed before again and again. Badbear has banned hundreds of accounts not just because they had bad quality posts but also because they were used by farmers. You know this very well. The guy in the OP has broken every single rule about signature spamming and account farming. There's no good reason to justify this because as you said it just results in more spamming. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: alani123 on January 31, 2015, 11:09:35 PM Bet? Why should I bet on this? If this is allowed you should be able to prove it easily since your entire business model in this forum is based on it. Trying to get even more money out of it is a bit pitiful of you.
Nonetheless, trying to game the system of any forum would break it. Bitcointalk is no exception to this. That's why signature restrictions have been brought in place and mods still ban signature spammers/farmers. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: Quickseller on January 31, 2015, 11:27:33 PM Bet? Why should I bet on this? If this is allowed you should be able to prove it easily since your entire business model in this forum is based on it. Trying to get even more money out of it is a bit pitiful of you. We should bet because you are confident that you correct. I can say that you are wrong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=891783.msg9973755#msg9973755) ;)Nonetheless, trying to game the system of any forum would break it. Bitcointalk is no exception to this. That's why signature restrictions have been brought in place and mods still ban signature spammers/farmers. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: alani123 on February 01, 2015, 12:59:08 AM Well then, you shouldn't be surprised if one day you wake up and all the accounts you have get banned. Here's BadBear banning 50 accounts a farmer owned.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786662.msg8875006#msg8875006 Not dissolved, still bannable. ::) Here's theymos saying that using an alt account to evade a ban is forbidden https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104178.msg1140954#msg1140954 It's also forbidden to use alt accounts to create false credibility. No way to prove account farmers aren't doing neither. The guy in OP did that, even extensively. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: Quickseller on February 01, 2015, 01:08:34 AM Well then, you shouldn't be surprised if one day you wake up and all the accounts you have get banned. Here's BadBear banning 50 accounts a farmer owned. You are making generalizations. if an account farmer follows the rules then he will not be banned. The reason BadBear banned so many accounts was because the owner was evading bans. If the owner had not evaded bans then he wouldn't have banned so many accounts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=786662.msg8875006#msg8875006 Here's theymos saying that using an alt account to evade a ban is forbidden https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=104178.msg1140954#msg1140954 It's also forbidden to use alt accounts to create false credibility. No way to prove account farmers aren't doing neither. The guy in OP did that, even extensively. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: hilariousandco on February 01, 2015, 07:12:29 AM Bet? Why should I bet on this? If this is allowed you should be able to prove it easily since your entire business model in this forum is based on it. Trying to get even more money out of it is a bit pitiful of you. Nonetheless, trying to game the system of any forum would break it. Bitcointalk is no exception to this. That's why signature restrictions have been brought in place and mods still ban signature spammers/farmers. If farming was banned then surely Quickseller would be too. As has been stated you can own/create/farm as many accounts as you wish, though 9/10 account farmers will just make shoddy few word posts and that's what they'll get banned for. Title: Re: Let's have a look at stellar69, account farmer, spammer, blackmailer and thief Post by: worhiper_-_ on February 08, 2015, 07:40:22 AM Other alts he owned were permabaned for spamming according to reply https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=780245.msg9916685#msg9916685
Some good research by user botany Who knows how many more accounts this person uses for spamming the forum. |
