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Title: . Post by: AleCrypt0 on February 01, 2015, 09:50:42 AM .
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: arlekyn13 on February 01, 2015, 10:05:59 AM Is it me, or most of the market movements are "dictated" by Chinese exchanges? Volumes are really high on those exchanges, real or not, so that's the direction one needs to look in order to "blame" someone/s or some organization/s for price manipulation.
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: thebitcoinquiz.com on February 01, 2015, 10:43:58 AM You always complaints about shitcoin's premine. You always complain about altcoins dumps. Well I guess you are just too sad because of the price drop. No one ever asked you to hold a large part of bitcoin. You should have known that bitcoin price is too volatile. The main website of bitcoin I.e bitcoin.org clearly asks you not hold large amount of money in bitcoins because its too risky.You are so blind that you cannot see that BTC is the biggest scam and manovrated market ever. Is something so incomprensible that when adoption get greater and wider price goes deeper and deeper. All the people who mined milions of BTC prior to the 2013 Bubble can now modify the prices and markets as they wants. BTC is going down and it ill go more and more if this people will not stop getting profit as they are doing now. This is a complete shit, and i'm really sad about 'cause I thought BTC was a good chance to change the world as we know now. But I evidently been wrong so far. (Disclaimer: i do not buy BTC on the markets and i hold a discrete amount of it, cause i gained with works and jobs. Now i feel that i would have preferred to be paid in dollars or euros. At least my "own bank" wouldn't have lost 30% in a month. That's a shit.) As far as the market is concerned, its not only the people who mined bitcoin before 2013 who can manipulate markets but right now its also the equipment manufacturers who control the market. I guess that the price wont go further down because dumpers know that its high time and they have to let the market rise a bit. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: sifter on February 01, 2015, 10:56:55 AM Don't get butthurt because your coins lost value.
If the value can jump from $200-$1200 in a few months, You should also expect it to fall from $1200-$200 in a few months. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: manselr on February 01, 2015, 10:58:51 AM Indeed the volatility is insane, but you have more chances at getting rich with bitcoin than you do with dollars.
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: thebitcoinquiz.com on February 01, 2015, 11:05:22 AM Indeed the volatility is insane, but you have more chances at getting rich with bitcoin than you do with dollars. That's just the black swan factor. You cannot really predict if you will get rich or not in bitcoin. It might be possible that government starts taking too hard stands on bitcoins and a lot of community starts to leave btc. Then you may see bitcoin plundering down to 1-2$. Anything is possible in 21st century. Sometimes its just a sin to be so sure about things.Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: oblivi on February 01, 2015, 11:21:00 AM Indeed the volatility is insane, but you have more chances at getting rich with bitcoin than you do with dollars. That's just the black swan factor. You cannot really predict if you will get rich or not in bitcoin. It might be possible that government starts taking too hard stands on bitcoins and a lot of community starts to leave btc. Then you may see bitcoin plundering down to 1-2$. Anything is possible in 21st century. Sometimes its just a sin to be so sure about things.I think attacking it empowers it. If they attack too much it may backfire on them, on our benefit. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: reRaise on February 01, 2015, 07:44:05 PM We are still getting dumped on by early adopters mining/buying millions of bitcoins and getting rich on naif people buying it, i would say don't buy and let this just go down hard so we can get over it.
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: 1Referee on February 01, 2015, 09:04:18 PM Don't get butthurt because your coins lost value. If the value can jump from $200-$1200 in a few months, You should also expect it to fall from $1200-$200 in a few months. People constantly change their mood. Did they make profit, then they say "Bitcoin is the best!" Did they buy in at a too high level and thus lost money, then they say "Bitcoin is a ponzi/scam" bla bla bla... It has been like this for years. Nothing changed. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: Anillos2 on February 01, 2015, 09:10:20 PM You always complaints about shitcoin's premine. You always complain about altcoins dumps. If You don't like Bitcoin, don't use it. It's very simple, don't use something that you don't like.You are so blind that you cannot see that BTC is the biggest scam and manovrated market ever. Is something so incomprensible that when adoption get greater and wider price goes deeper and deeper. All the people who mined milions of BTC prior to the 2013 Bubble can now modify the prices and markets as they wants. BTC is going down and it ill go more and more if this people will not stop getting profit as they are doing now. This is a complete shit, and i'm really sad about 'cause I thought BTC was a good chance to change the world as we know now. But I evidently been wrong so far. (Disclaimer: i do not buy BTC on the markets and i hold a discrete amount of it, cause i gained with works and jobs. Now i feel that i would have preferred to be paid in dollars or euros. At least my "own bank" wouldn't have lost 30% in a month. That's a shit.) But bitcoin can't be a scam, because it doesn't have owner and nobody can control it easily. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: cakir on February 01, 2015, 09:21:58 PM Well well well:
Quote (Disclaimer: i do not buy BTC on the markets and i hold a discrete amount of it, cause i gained with works and jobs. Now i feel that i would have preferred to be paid in dollars or euros. At least my "own bank" wouldn't have lost 30% in a month. That's a shit.) You were charging people while withdrawing bitcoin from your exchange with 20x fee. (0.002 BTC) I think this is your "ethical" business plan to get bitcoin. https://i.imgur.com/P1M4STO.png Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: Selena Gomez on February 01, 2015, 09:22:22 PM if we use it for a long term investment without looking a chart of market
i think we will really poor later :D as we know market move really fast and can makes everyone rich or looses Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: galbros on February 01, 2015, 09:42:39 PM I'm sorry your coins have lost value, mine have too. I too like to blame the Chinese exchanges, but that's just because conspiracy theories are fun.
I think crypto currency is interesting and may have a future which is why I still am attracted to bitcoin. Just because something does not go up in value in a straight line does not make it a scam or market manipulation. Good Luck! Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: redsn0w on February 01, 2015, 09:48:14 PM At the moment this is not the real "value" because now it is only a question of speculation. Let see what will happen before/after the next block reward halving (the blood in the street....).
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: caga on February 01, 2015, 09:51:19 PM Is it me, or most of the market movements are "dictated" by Chinese exchanges? Volumes are really high on those exchanges, real or not, so that's the direction one needs to look in order to "blame" someone/s or some organization/s for price manipulation. Well you could say more like the mnaipulation by the people running those markets. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: newIndia on February 01, 2015, 09:53:55 PM You always complaints about shitcoin's premine. You always complain about altcoins dumps. You are so blind that you cannot see that BTC is the biggest scam and manovrated market ever. Is something so incomprensible that when adoption get greater and wider price goes deeper and deeper. All the people who mined milions of BTC prior to the 2013 Bubble can now modify the prices and markets as they wants. BTC is going down and it ill go more and more if this people will not stop getting profit as they are doing now. This is a complete shit, and i'm really sad about 'cause I thought BTC was a good chance to change the world as we know now. But I evidently been wrong so far. (Disclaimer: i do not buy BTC on the markets and i hold a discrete amount of it, cause i gained with works and jobs. Now i feel that i would have preferred to be paid in dollars or euros. At least my "own bank" wouldn't have lost 30% in a month. That's a shit.) Did u really thought it ever ? Following stat about you does not say so... ::) Announcements (Altcoins) 211 Services 26 Gambling (Italiano) 19 Scam Accusations 13 Speculation 11 Servizi 10 Hardware/Mining (Italiano) 9 Lending 6 Altcoin Discussion 6 Computer hardware 6 Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: Meuh6879 on February 01, 2015, 09:59:43 PM in 10 years, inflation in FIAT ... have killed the mojority of all salary man (-25% of your pay value).
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a0/US-Inflation-by-year.png but not the richs. and then, bitcoin rise ... think. ;D Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: Coinshot on February 01, 2015, 10:03:36 PM Bitcoin is a big innovation. Its currently going through a tough time which brings out the trolls like the OP.
Once prices go up all these sentiment will vanish quickly. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: TheButterZone on February 01, 2015, 10:15:42 PM Bitcoin is worth $1250 USD/BTC. What are you talking about?
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: runpaint on February 01, 2015, 10:41:45 PM Speculative inflation just means that a lot of people saw Bitcoin's future value. After the next block halving, it will be worth more. After millions of people start using it, it will be worth more. So people started buying based on what it will be worth in the future. If they hold their coins into the future, I think they might be glad they paid $1200.
But then other people realized that it's not worth that much yet. The next block halving and the millions of new users are still in the future. So the $1200 price is still in the future. If Bitcoin continues to exist, and if the number of users increases, then the price will increase. It is a mathematical certainty. The uncertainty is whether it will continue and gain adoption. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: newIndia on February 01, 2015, 10:45:15 PM Bitcoin is worth $1250 USD/BTC. What are you talking about? I wanna sell some. Wanna buy at this rate ? ;) Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: TheButterZone on February 01, 2015, 10:49:28 PM Bitcoin is worth $1250 USD/BTC. What are you talking about? I wanna sell some. Wanna buy at this rate ? ;) Ran out of money. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: mercistheman on February 01, 2015, 11:41:36 PM Response to OP... are you here to save the world from Bitcoin?... we're grown enough to make our own decisions...just go away... we'll be fine thanks.
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: johnyj on February 01, 2015, 11:50:02 PM Oil has been fallen sharply too, but no scam here. Since the end of QE3, almost every commodity's price is on a free fall against USD, simply because there is no more fresh USD every day to buy these things (QE3 was printing 2.8 billion USD per day)
To make it worse, bitcoin miners still pump out 3600 coins per day. To absorb those 3600 coins, either miners hoard most of them (Which is less and less possible due to the mining has been taken over by large farms which have to sell coins to cover their cost), or the usage increases (people buy bitcoin as long term saving, to transfer value oversea, or to purchase goods/services). When price cut by half, for same usage you need double amount of coins, the demand for coins will double, the price drop will eventually stop when the price is enough low Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: wadili89 on February 02, 2015, 12:06:56 AM its depend on you how you manage it tell me a work/business where only people get profit not loss ? as bitcoins can make you huge profit in few days you should also expect some loss
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: sherbyspark on February 02, 2015, 12:12:17 AM I don't understand, that if people believe , its all a scam, then why post it . Just leave bitcoin and enjoy your life instead.
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: leopard2 on February 02, 2015, 12:23:41 AM DEAD WRONG!
Largest scam IMHO is SNB manipulating EUR/CHF, currently to the tune of over CHF 500 000 000 000 and they still keep doing it Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: Blazr on February 02, 2015, 02:01:28 AM I'm pretty sure manovrated and manovration aren't words.
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: Bitcoinpro on February 02, 2015, 02:29:35 AM I'm pretty sure manovrated and manovration aren't words. just more botspeak blazer, they may have forgotten to load the spelling function into this one Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: tss on February 02, 2015, 02:41:50 AM none of this is about getting fiat rich.
early adopters were pioneers. they mined when it had no value. none at all. ZERO. the late early adopters (gpu) were mining with hundreds of dollars of equipment when they earned pennies a day in bitcoin. don't hate. i regret not knowing earlier also. if the early whales including Satoshi cash out the price will plummet. bitcoin will not fail as the diehard will always mine. 100 years from now it may be worth something again when the people are more educated and fiat buying power has decreased more severely. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: waterpile on February 02, 2015, 02:51:07 AM Invest what you can afford to lose. Feel free to sell your coins now
Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: agath on February 02, 2015, 03:41:48 AM You always complaints about shitcoin's premine. You always complain about altcoins dumps. You are so blind that you cannot see that BTC is the biggest scam and manovrated market ever. Is something so incomprensible that when adoption get greater and wider price goes deeper and deeper. All the people who mined milions of BTC prior to the 2013 Bubble can now modify the prices and markets as they wants. BTC is going down and it ill go more and more if this people will not stop getting profit as they are doing now. This is a complete shit, and i'm really sad about 'cause I thought BTC was a good chance to change the world as we know now. But I evidently been wrong so far. (Disclaimer: i do not buy BTC on the markets and i hold a discrete amount of it, cause i gained with works and jobs. Now i feel that i would have preferred to be paid in dollars or euros. At least my "own bank" wouldn't have lost 30% in a month. That's a shit.) Bitcoin rules are the same for everyone. Don't blame imaginary friends(enemies) who do things to break your toy. If you were paid in euro you would have lost more than 20% in one day vs the CHF, and more than 10% vs USD. And what if you were paid with RUB? At least bitcoin is not manipulated by central banks and it can go from $200 to $1200 (or more) with the same ease it came down. And if you don't like it, you can just get rid of it. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: LordSonjai on February 02, 2015, 06:41:20 AM We are still getting dumped on by early adopters mining/buying millions of bitcoins and getting rich on naif people buying it, i would say don't buy and let this just go down hard so we can get over it. -someone who doesnt own bitcoin. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: flipstyle on February 02, 2015, 09:14:12 AM Indeed the volatility is insane, but you have more chances at getting rich with bitcoin than you do with dollars. No, you don't. Bring $10,000 cash to a casino and play War. You have a much better chance and fair odds (you won't be subject to manipulation) of doubling your money than you do putting it in bitcoin right now...and faster. You want to get rich quick? There are countless better ways than bitcoin. That ship has long sailed, at least for the very foreseeable future. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: Daniel91 on February 02, 2015, 09:19:47 AM Indeed the volatility is insane, but you have more chances at getting rich with bitcoin than you do with dollars. No, you don't. Bring $10,000 cash to a casino and play War. You have a much better chance and fair odds (you won't be subject to manipulation) of doubling your money than you do putting it in bitcoin right now...and faster. You want to get rich quick? There are countless better ways than bitcoin. That ship has long sailed, at least for the very foreseeable future. I don't agree with you that casino is better way to earn good money. In fact, you will probably loose all your money there, because ''house always wins''. Yes, the price of BTC is very low now, but this price can increase again, and if you are patient and can wait, you can earn very good money again, like in the past. You loose with BTC only if you don't wait but sell right now, for such low price. So, eventually you will earn with bTC but if you loose money in Casino, you will never get this money back. Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: zebedee on February 02, 2015, 11:43:17 AM This is a complete shit, and i'm really sad about 'cause I thought BTC was a good chance to change the world as we know now. But I evidently been wrong so far. Evidently.Title: Re: Bitcoin is the biggest scam/market manovration ever. Post by: btcxyzzz on February 02, 2015, 12:38:36 PM Bitcoin is a complete revolution of money, and your brain is complete shit.
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