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According to the transcript here http://bitforum.info/t/silk-road-boss-ordered-assassination-of-5-people/217/1

DPR asked a Hells Angels member (which is pretty cool) to kill 5 men. If there's any follow up on this story please post the link so that I can follow.

 ;) ;) ;)

Its hard to prove he had them killed. This does point out his intention to, but no one knows if the assasins actually did their job or simply lied to him.

He didn't kill them he just raped them to death with his micro penis.

I just find this hard to believe when looking at the guy and seeing his video blog, hes not been found guilty of any murder afaik.

Don't believe any of FBI's lies. The bankers want DPR behind bars for the rest of his life. And they want every bitcoin user to end up behind bars.

I dont trust any of the result already after hearing about the prosecution tactics.... do courts want the truth or they just want a result.  Total BS system waste of time.

Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di5NSU5yuKE

This was nothing to do with any zany conspiracy theory. He ran a multi-million pound drug dealing business, tried to whack some people and got caught sat in front of his own computer logged on as dpr. No conspiracy just stupidity and criminality.

He didn't. He attempted to have people assassinated but it was a sting operation and the images of the hits were faked.

yes, this.
You are pretty much guaranteed of being blackmailed or set up if you try to hire contract killers. This aint the movies.

also, this contract killing stuff makes the fed's case look like bullshit.

and FYI, Hell's Angels arent cool. They are the most conservative, narrow minded group of low level bullies around. Most of them don't even like motorcycles.

Attempted murder is still punishable by law.

Yeah..any attempt or being involved in a attempt is punishable by law.!

Wait, how do we know it was fake ? Can you point to some link where I can read about it ?
Even I was under the impression, it was all real.

Here it is http://bitforum.info/t/silk-road-boss-ordered-assassination-of-5-people/217?u=angelo
If you find any follow up news, post it here

Because the police said they faked them. There's even chat logs of conversations between the would-be hitman and dpr where he gets shown the pictures and he comments on them.

One more thing to think about here. Government/Obama hires soldiers. They use guns and tanks and drones to kill innocent people in Iraq and Pakistan and who knows where else.

If DPR hired hit men to kill 5 people, there was a whole lot more justice involved with it than the wanton murdering of innocent people that Obama hires his U.S. soldier hit men for.

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Obama did it illegally, DPR didnt.

Why do people always compare the illegal and the illegal. I think they are not the same.
That is why Ulbricht's in the can and obama is in the white house.

You basically used the same word twice.
So you're saying because Obama is a president, he has the right to kill innocent people wherever he wants under the false claims that they are terrorists?

They are trying to make an example of DPR. Besides running the drug website (for which getting a life sentence would be ridiculous), we can't really know if he committed anything else unless until we see the evidence. They are trying to scare other users with this.

He doesnt have the right to kill people but the government he is working for does give him the right.

SO if the police faked being the other guy on the chat, where did that money go?
Its almost 1.7 million right now.

The bankers arent the fbi

Friendlychemist done hime good and proper  ;D :D ;)

I cannot believe what an absolute idiot dpr was, i really cant.

Who here would hand over 7000+ bitcoin to an anonymous after 5 or 6 emails its crazy he deserves everything he gets

TrolololLoLoL

Every bitcoin user hey, just imagine how many people that is for a second.

Guess that's what the fema camps are for

I thought the same, but I am still looking to know for exactly who the person was, who took the bounty.
Was it confrimed to be FBI ?

But yeah, sounds stupid, if he sent that money without any proof.

Not sure it's confirmed mate but in was all to cosy in the chat, i would bet a btc it was the friendlychemist who tried to blackmail him to begin with who was suppose to be killed ;D

The only reason dpr was talking to redwhite hells angel 'lol' was because of him he says at the beginning chemist asked him to get in touch.

After dpr paid first btc dpr was an easy mark

Nobody has that right. Please stop your gibbering.

DPR could have had a different outcome. He should have stayed away far from the US.

No, the alleged murder stuff was all fake sting shit from FBI AGENTS

----> FBI generates crime artificially, that is sick and twisted to the core

Now that this part has been clarified by the court, it turns out that DPR did nothing that is ethically questionable at all, just bringing buyers and sellers together. Who obviously should have the right to damage their own bodies, whereas hiring a killer would mean to damage someone elses body.

That simple distinction makes all the difference in the world to sane people, but no difference to the government, who hands out a life sentence in both cases.

US criticize Egytian justice, but they are not much better.

It's very confusing because the murder for hire isn't even really part of this trial. that trial will be in Maryland next, but some info has been made public via the chats that the government used to convict DPR of all the other shit.


http://www.wired.com/2015/02/read-transcript-silk-roads-boss-ordering-5-assassinations/

Goes through the chats from DPR's computer about the hits. It doesn't look like any of these hits actually got done, DPR did pay for them. Authorities were not able to find any murders/deaths/or even names of the people that DPR paid to get killed. I'm guessing that it was all an elaborate scam from the beginning.

Later on he also paid someone who turned out to be an FBI agent to beat up and then "execute" an employee who stole from him. This is the one that was faked with staged photos

http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/10/02/feds-allege-silk-roads-boss-paid-for-murders-of-both-a-witness-and-a-blackmailer/

Even if Ross DID literally kill someone, it is nothing when compared with what the U.S. government is doing all the time.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=946095.msg10370599#msg10370599

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=822248.msg10370172#msg10370172

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Not sure if it's been mentioned, but it looks like BitStamp was used by the hitter to cash out some of his coins.

Oh well then in that case we should give him a pass AMIRITE? Who cares if I kill you and your family, The US Govt does it all the time so what I did was nothing.

Nope. That's wrong thinking. Here's the right thinking.

If Ross is convicted through U.S. government criminal action, then nobody is safe.

Convict him the right way, and convict the government criminals who are millions of times worse than Ross could ever think of being.

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I heard he was 5 men who liked men, he is probably in heaven now in them showers  :-X

DPR is a Hero! Honor his doing, or you're just another godam Nazi!

http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lv04zb2WVE1r6m1z5o1_500.jpg

Amazing first post there lol.

I think its just gone..cannot be tracked now..or they r just moving it to their own account..hence making a fake transaction.

The 80k went to the government. the bitcoins for the other 5 guys probably went to whoever set up that scam.

That means, Hell's Angels are also bitcoin users? :) That is cool

Pretty sure the hell's angels bit was a catfish type scam to get a bunch of coins from DPR. There are no bodies or even names that match up with any of the rest of that story, but you can see the transactions on the blockchain.

He "tried" to kill 5 men. So no.

Well thats not right. You can't say he tried. Say a boss of a company hires a hitman to kill the boss of asnother company , but the hitman was caught. Now, you can't say that he didn't have the intention to. He will definitely be arrested for it.

Ross faces a separate trial for allegedly hiring a hitman to try to kill a former staff member of Silk Road, turned police informant.

The other people that Ross tried to kill likely do not even exist. He was scammed

Ross isn't like this. If he really did it, they were doing the same, or they were ripping him off. It was a form of self-defense in areas where standard law enforcement could not reach... kinda like the old West shootout, but in a much more hidden, complicated fashion.

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Not DPR killed, or ordered to kill 5 men. The state restrictions did it! Otherwise DPR could be a respected businessman. Like the alkohol prohibition only feed the mafia, so do drug restrictions.

Not the mexican mafia kills people, the state restrictions kill them. Not their cruelity makes them rich, it is...again...the state

Hell's Angels are a bunch of pussies who are working with couple of dozen men just to operate

I wasn't sure DPR ordered a hit before. After reading a transcript, it does seem likely. I don't even know if the guy in question did really die. Is the whole conversation staged to scare him out?

http://bitforum-bakcups.s3.amazonaws.com/1638fc45e10d60f7f28c35417460f6166dcc7d65231_545x500.jpg
(Source: http://bitforum.info/t/silk-road-boss-ordered-assassination-of-5-people/217)


Have you got any links to this? Is this former staff member the above guy or a different person?

No, no one died but the feds mocked up some photos to show that he'd been 'killed'. The people who he was talking to trying to organize the hits were also police informants.

Lol, so "RedandWhite" in the transcript is an informant and DPR is basically talking to the cops. Will be difficult to get off this attempted murder charge.

There is no way they will find a connection that couldn't have been "faked". I mean Dread Pirate Roberts is highly assumed to own tens folds what they had confiscated from him. See "assumed" because there is no possibly way to pinpoint an address to him unless they find the wallet that includes the private keys for that account AND break its encryption.

and I personally I don't think he had done or hired people for such thing. Governments love to link everything to everything in people eyes but meditating small scale drug trades is way way different than murder. A person capable of the first does not mean he is capable at the other, maybe vice versa..... though.

Allegedly*

You could add allegedly infront of all his charges but in my opinion I think the power just went to his head and he's guilty of all charges.

And it doesn't matter if he is guilty of all charges IF WE DON'T HAVE PROOF. If nobody was harmed or damaged, what's the difference.

If you go out on your own property, and chop down a tree with an ax, and it doesn't harm anyone, who should care what you do on your property with your tree?

We have a bunch of hearsay that Ross did something wrong. Yet nobody is willing to come forward and say, "Ross hurt me. Here is what he did to me. Here is the evidence that it was Ross who did it to me. And here is the witness that saw Ross do it to me."

Nobody did this, came forward like this. Such a thing is not pressed into the court record. All there is, is evidence that he might have harmed somebody. "Might have" does not cut it.

Guilty of doing all kinds of things, yes. Just like you and I are guilty of breathing and operating computers. Since nobody is claiming harm or damage, there is no crime. Ross should be freed. It is the basic law of the land in America.

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Go tell that to the governments who make the laws. Money laundering and tax evasion surely seem like they're hurting the IRS so that's what they'll argue, and there's also the attempted murder plot (though I know this wasn't relevant to this trial).

The USA government and the States governments are being told more and more by people who are using law the way Karl Lentz uses it - http://www.broadmind.org/ and http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/ and http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/.

The theory is here http://1215.org/.

The points of law are here http://voidjudgments.com/.

Karl uses it all in the simplest, most effective way around. Karl says, "It's so simple it's scary."

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If its true that he really was involved within hitmen shit then you know whats coming. I dont even give a shit about him avoiding taxes but hitmen? cmon.

Most of us don't like the idea of anything like hitmen, myself included.

In Ross's case, we are looking at a world without government. Ross was acting as a free man, in an area of the world where governments have little control or say. In such a world, what is the government? Isn't it a man's own word? Isn't it community punishment for wrongdoing by anybody in that system?

What is Ross supposed to do in a case where he is harmed or damaged by that kind of a system? The U.S. government is trying to make a case against him for operating in a system where they are not allowed, generally. They are doing it so that they can get his money, and so that they can make an example out of him to scare other people into remaining in the government system. Why do they want people to remain in the government system? So that they can systematically rape them through taxation.

Does anyone remember the Old West in America? Often the law of the land was kill or be killed. People wore guns and used them. There were shootouts in the streets. There often wasn't any law enforcement officer to keep the peace. People kept their own peace through personal force.

This is the kind of land Ross was in. This is the kind of land that Tor invites. This is where Bitcoin operates because it promotes freedom. Now, the government is trying to take away freedom. Ross was only acting in self-defense in the only way you can in a free land, if he hired hitmen. Generally, America is NOT a free land, and hasn't been for a long time.

If the government didn't have their own agenda, if they were acting justly, they would take into account that they weren't there to protect Ross when he hired hitmen. So Ross had to protect himself and his property in the only way he could.

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I'm waiting until after the second trial is over before I make up my mind. Lets see what evidence they use in court in addition to what we already know.

I believe that "redandWhite" is actually a con artist who was able to scam DPR out of several hundred thousand dollars worth of bitcoin. There was no evidence that any of the hits actually took place

I don't think he had anyone killed or even tried to.  It was just a smear campaign to influence the jury, obviously.

I only knew that last one he had ordered and was sumilated by fbi