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Title: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: paulie_w on July 24, 2012, 04:26:00 PM
seems like it, no?


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: jwzguy on July 24, 2012, 04:28:37 PM
No.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: Garr255 on July 24, 2012, 04:32:49 PM
No.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: BCB on July 24, 2012, 04:35:19 PM
we'll see a move to 15 or 20 in August. 


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: knight22 on July 24, 2012, 04:47:04 PM
we'll see a move to 15 or 20 in August. 

What's make you think so?


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: BCB on July 24, 2012, 04:55:46 PM
I certainly don't follow the Gox BOOK/VOLUME/TRADES as much as the chatty-cathy's on BTC irc however there have been some big players joining the club as evidenced by some of the big buys that have been made and the large BTC address that are public available.  There is certainly increased VC interest.  There is a HUGE (bigger then Facebook HUGE) potential in banking disintermediation so there is that opportunity when someone figures it out AND the public accepts it.  In August, vacations are over  for US, people are back to work and I think we'll see price increases due to real interest and increased speculation.  I also think we'll see profit taking after any spike like that and another hack in August or September.

Disclaimer:  I'm not betting my BTC on this.  Purely speculation.

 


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: humanitee on July 24, 2012, 04:59:07 PM
No, definitely not.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: BCB on July 24, 2012, 05:02:58 PM
We'll see.  This is still the "Wild West" of BTC.  And government hasn't even weighted in yet.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: smoothie on July 24, 2012, 06:10:07 PM
No $8.50 isn't a floor...it will become short-term resistance as we fall past it...


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: gabbynot on July 24, 2012, 06:14:08 PM
...and government hasn't even weighted in yet.

Thank God.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: adamstgBit on July 24, 2012, 08:05:29 PM
5$ is the floor
6.5 is likely to never be seen again
7.5 is likely to bring strong support
7.0 is likely to become the new 5

enjoy getting fucked over by this prediction  ;)


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: SaintFlow on July 24, 2012, 08:14:57 PM
we'll see a move to 15 or 20 in August. 

I agree. Simply because I finally got a friend convinced to try it. Doubling effectifly the number of Bitcoiners I know.
Now it is me and him.

I cannot say he will mine and buy as much as I but we will get there eventually.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: BrightAnarchist on July 24, 2012, 08:16:22 PM
I want it to go back to $5 and just stay there for the next year, so I can accumulate more and more coins.

And then go to $1 million each after that.

That would be the ideal scenario :)


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: BCB on July 24, 2012, 08:19:29 PM
I'll also think we'll see $3  again in the next 12 months.  We are probably a long way to from any significant stability.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: SaintFlow on July 24, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
I'll also think we'll see $3  again in the next 12 months.  We are probably a long way to from any significant stability.

If nothing MAJOR MAJOR MAJOR happens to justify such a movement the amount of support that will materialize
at even 4.3 is beyond my wildest imaginations.
Flashcrashes excluded.

The biggest trend I can see happening is that MTGOX will become mtgox and there will be constant discussion here
on the forum which exchange really is the best.



Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: BCB on July 24, 2012, 08:32:21 PM
I hope your are correct but I still think we're going to see more major hacks and/or more financial, corrupt, inept shenanigans.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: Yuhfhrh on July 24, 2012, 09:25:37 PM
I want it to go back to $5 and just stay there for the next year, so I can accumulate more and more coins.

And then go to $1 million each after that.

That would be the ideal scenario :)

+∞


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: DeathAndTaxes on July 24, 2012, 09:30:43 PM
If it goes to $1M per coins does it really matter if you get in at $8.28, $5, or $10 per coin? ;)


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: smoothie on July 24, 2012, 09:35:52 PM
If it goes to $1M per coins does it really matter if you get in at $8.28, $5, or $10 per coin? ;)

It does it you are day trading this...buying and selling...you can gain more or lose more coins...if you know what you are doing...the first will be true.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: Jointops420 on July 24, 2012, 11:50:53 PM
If it goes to $1M per coins does it really matter if you get in at $8.28, $5, or $10 per coin? ;)

My thoughts exactly, I wont care a bitcent how many more I could of gone after if it goes to a million a coin because being a billionaire would take all my worries away in the financial realm.
I am hoping this will be the new floor but hey BTC history shows me never get to complacent in what I think is where its going to be for awhile. I do think that there's a big probability that this is the start of the real growth phase after lots of time since last years drama and still BTC stands.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: paulie_w on July 25, 2012, 12:08:44 AM
I'll also think we'll see $3  again in the next 12 months.  We are probably a long way to from any significant stability.

oh man that would be AWESOME


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: Yuhfhrh on July 25, 2012, 06:45:24 AM
The price has been stuck at $8.40 for an hour now, I predict a slight rise now :o


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: Serenata on July 25, 2012, 07:12:33 AM
Bitcoin supply is constant (until the end of this year that is)
People joining and using bitcoins is a growing number.

Unless a big issue/flaw/scam goes into wild, I expect the price to continue rising.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: CoinCidental on July 25, 2012, 07:39:55 AM
Bitcoin supply is constant (until the end of this year that is)
People joining and using bitcoins is a growing number.

Unless a big issue/flaw/scam goes into wild, I expect the price to continue rising.

Ive been trying to introduce more people to the benefits of bitcoin .......but many of them
STILL cant see the benefits outside of buying drugs on silk road or avoiding paying tax  etc

Until we get some major acceptance ,i dont know if there are enough geeks willing to download 3 GB
blockchains and put up with multi level encryption to use bitcoins everyday


and we need vendors that are giving incentives to put up with the hassle of learning encrypted wallets

its just  not easy to buy a happy meal or put gas in your car or buy a new pair of shoes with bitcoin ................ yet

thats the major drawback ,its still just too complicated  for the average idiot  to understand but i hope that gets simplified over time ;)

 


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: adamstgBit on July 25, 2012, 07:41:47 AM
The price has been stuck at $8.40 for an hour now, I predict a slight rise now :o

8.40 could turn out to be the bottom

its taking a beating but its holding

lets see how things look tomorrow morning!


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: Kupsi on July 25, 2012, 09:01:06 AM
Until we get some major acceptance ,i dont know if there are enough geeks willing to download 3 GB
blockchains and put up with multi level encryption to use bitcoins everyday
They don't need to do that. New users can use www.coinbase.com where they don't need to download blockchain or know anything about encryption.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: Bjork on July 25, 2012, 09:03:14 AM
We will go lower. 


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: mem on July 25, 2012, 09:07:03 AM
We will go lower. 

http://archive.4chon.net/new/1934112/src_1334719344096.jpg


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: rebuilder on July 25, 2012, 10:58:31 AM
They don't need to do that. New users can use www.coinbase.com where they don't need to download blockchain or know anything about encryption.

Yes, since having a third party hold on to your BTC has worked out so well in the past!


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: Kupsi on July 25, 2012, 12:21:27 PM
They don't need to do that. New users can use www.coinbase.com where they don't need to download blockchain or know anything about encryption.

Yes, since having a third party hold on to your BTC has worked out so well in the past!
New users don't know that :)


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: BCB on July 25, 2012, 12:52:54 PM
We trust banks and savings and deposits and credit unions with our money.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: Technomage on July 25, 2012, 01:21:37 PM
I think the rally has lost steam and it's very possible that we'll have a dip. Not sure how big of a dip though, $7.x is surely thought of as a cheap price by the majority at this point so it's very unlikely to go below $7.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: molecular on July 25, 2012, 03:18:09 PM
They don't need to do that. New users can use www.coinbase.com where they don't need to download blockchain or know anything about encryption.

Yes, since having a third party hold on to your BTC has worked out so well in the past!
New users don't know that :)

They will know soon enough and then we have another myBitcoin fiasco? No, thanks.

electrum is an option. I use electrum myself to great satisfaction.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: XXthetimeisnowXX on April 19, 2013, 07:46:19 PM
lets hope so. haha


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: simplydt on April 19, 2013, 08:02:24 PM
lets hope so. haha
revived an ancient thread? :P


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: molecular on April 19, 2013, 08:36:30 PM
I think the rally has lost steam and it's very possible that we'll have a dip. Not sure how big of a dip though, $7.x is surely thought of as a cheap price by the majority at this point so it's very unlikely to go below $7.

yep. never went down to $7 again after your post ;)


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: molecular on April 19, 2013, 08:37:14 PM
lets hope so. haha
revived an ancient thread? :P

it's kind-of funny that 8 month actually does seem like ages.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: samson on April 19, 2013, 11:56:15 PM
Seriously though right now there's a huge amount of orders around $8-$20 - about $2 Million worth I think

I've never seen it like this before.

For some reason people expect a crash of epic proportions.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: BitPirate on April 20, 2013, 12:49:05 AM
What utter crap. There are huge volumes trading at $120 too -- I've never seen it like this.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: GotBitCoins on April 20, 2013, 12:54:51 AM
Seriously though right now there's a huge amount of orders around $8-$20 - about $2 Million worth I think

I've never seen it like this before.

For some reason people expect a crash of epic proportions.

Where do you see these orders? Which web-site?


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: BitPirate on April 20, 2013, 01:30:26 AM
bitcoinity shows market depth, so do a bunch of others.

However there's nothing new about lots of low bids or high asks -- you often find market depth is high high at 0.0001 and 1,000,000.

Bear in mind also that there will be some skewage these days too, as Mt Goxis changing the order process, and only allowing orders to go through that are funded. This will change the profile of the market depth chart, particularly if they just cancel orders that are non-funded but leave the others in.


Title: Re: so is 8.5-ish the new floor?
Post by: molecular on April 20, 2013, 07:18:22 AM
bitcoinity shows market depth, so do a bunch of others.

However there's nothing new about lots of low bids or high asks -- you often find market depth is high high at 0.0001 and 1,000,000.

Bear in mind also that there will be some skewage these days too, as Mt Goxis changing the order process, and only allowing orders to go through that are funded. This will change the profile of the market depth chart, particularly if they just cancel orders that are non-funded but leave the others in.

you got that wrong. Currently no unfunded orders are displayed in the book, only funded orders. That's apparently (as stated by magicaltux) why the engine craps out: it has to re-check the orders (change the state between "invalid" and "open") when users balance changes.

The depth chart will not change at the time of rollout of the change.

However: it will behave differently from there-on out: When price move (for example) up, some people's USD balances increase. If they have "invalid" unfunded orders, some of these will become valid and suddenly show in the order book. Some other people gain BTC so some of their unfunded asks will become valid and suddenly show in the orderbook. In other words: a price move currently results in depth being moved "uphill" (at least partially).

This will not be the case any more and price moves will just decrease the depth.