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Title: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: realtip on February 09, 2015, 08:28:22 AM
I'm looking at getting the darkwallet. I've got the basic grasp of how it works but some specific things I would like to confirm.  Is this correct:

1) The stealth address of the receiver is recorded in the transaction (not main address coins went in)

2)The stealth address is given to the sender and everytime it changes itself in the block chain (so although same sender sends coins to the same receiver using this same stealth address the actual address thats log on the transaction chain is always different)

3) If someone uses a stealth address it can be recognised as a being a stealth address (I read this somewhere but may have been mis-informed)

Also I wanted to know:

1) If someone was to get access to my wallet can that person see i've sent to a stealth address can they know this (ie is this recorded in the wallet? If transaction are recorded in the wallet itself can they be deleted)

2) If someone was to get access to my wallet payee address can they see if I have received from someone who used a stealth address to send? In fact can you also use a stealth address to send?

3) If I i were to buy from an exchange do i use my darkwallet or do i have to make a separate wallet and then transfer incurring double miner fees

4) If I were to sell coins from my stealth account on an exchange can I use my darkwallet or do I have to transfer from darkwallet to exchange wallet and then sell

Off topic a little but:

With the miner fees is it, no matter how big or small the transaction fees will be the same? How do I set the fees, and how would i know in which priority group im in (is this algo based or the miner picks and chooses most lucrative?)


Title: Re: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: realtip on February 10, 2015, 09:13:56 PM
Bump anyone


Title: Re: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: Velkro on February 11, 2015, 12:21:54 AM
I stopped reading about dark wallet and care'ing about it, since around year ago they didn't listen community on reddit to change project name.
If they don't want listen to community, let only developers use their software, ditch it.


Title: Re: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: sed on February 11, 2015, 12:23:00 AM
Is dark wallet that altcoin called "bitcoin dark"?  I think I've heard of this but I don't know exactly.


Title: Re: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: sgk on February 11, 2015, 08:45:15 AM
Is dark wallet that altcoin called "bitcoin dark"?  I think I've heard of this but I don't know exactly.

No, Dark Wallet is a BITCOIN wallet that facilitates anonymous Bitcoin transactions.

More here:
https://www.darkwallet.is/
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/17005/bitcoin-technology-worth-nothing-interview-dark-wallet-front-man-amir-taaki/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taaki


Title: Re: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: Stcgold on February 11, 2015, 11:17:33 AM
Is dark wallet that altcoin called "bitcoin dark"?  I think I've heard of this but I don't know exactly.

No, Dark Wallet is a BITCOIN wallet that facilitates anonymous Bitcoin transactions.

More here:
https://www.darkwallet.is/
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/17005/bitcoin-technology-worth-nothing-interview-dark-wallet-front-man-amir-taaki/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taaki

thanks for the link
i though it was bicoin dark also


Title: Re: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: najzenmajsen on February 11, 2015, 11:33:45 AM
I stopped reading about dark wallet and care'ing about it, since around year ago they didn't listen community on reddit to change project name.
If they don't want listen to community, let only developers use their software, ditch it.
hey , just because alot of people tell the developers to change project name , doesnt mean the majority will be happy. the ones that were happy probably said nothing. You cant make everybody happy


Title: Re: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: sed on February 17, 2015, 10:36:07 PM
Is dark wallet that altcoin called "bitcoin dark"?  I think I've heard of this but I don't know exactly.

No, Dark Wallet is a BITCOIN wallet that facilitates anonymous Bitcoin transactions.

More here:
https://www.darkwallet.is/
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/17005/bitcoin-technology-worth-nothing-interview-dark-wallet-front-man-amir-taaki/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amir_Taaki

Interesting, I'll check that out soon.  So, if this wallet does bitcoin, then is it just using HD keys?


Title: Re: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: newIndia on February 17, 2015, 10:45:28 PM
I'm looking at getting the darkwallet. I've got the basic grasp of how it works but some specific things I would like to confirm.  Is this correct:

1) The stealth address of the receiver is recorded in the transaction (not main address coins went in)

2)The stealth address is given to the sender and everytime it changes itself in the block chain (so although same sender sends coins to the same receiver using this same stealth address the actual address thats log on the transaction chain is always different)

3) If someone uses a stealth address it can be recognised as a being a stealth address (I read this somewhere but may have been mis-informed)

Also I wanted to know:

1) If someone was to get access to my wallet can that person see i've sent to a stealth address can they know this (ie is this recorded in the wallet? If transaction are recorded in the wallet itself can they be deleted)

2) If someone was to get access to my wallet payee address can they see if I have received from someone who used a stealth address to send? In fact can you also use a stealth address to send?

3) If I i were to buy from an exchange do i use my darkwallet or do i have to make a separate wallet and then transfer incurring double miner fees

4) If I were to sell coins from my stealth account on an exchange can I use my darkwallet or do I have to transfer from darkwallet to exchange wallet and then sell

Off topic a little but:

With the miner fees is it, no matter how big or small the transaction fees will be the same? How do I set the fees, and how would i know in which priority group im in (is this algo based or the miner picks and chooses most lucrative?)

It is better to ask about DarkWallet here => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=848088.0

I stopped reading about dark wallet and care'ing about it, since around year ago they didn't listen community on reddit to change project name.
If they don't want listen to community, let only developers use their software, ditch it.

I dont see a reason why DarkWallet will change their name. I mean what is there in a name at all when it comes to a bitcoin wallet ?


Title: Re: Understanding dark wallet correctly
Post by: sed on February 18, 2015, 12:17:50 AM
I'm looking at getting the darkwallet. I've got the basic grasp of how it works but some specific things I would like to confirm.  Is this correct:

1) The stealth address of the receiver is recorded in the transaction (not main address coins went in)

2)The stealth address is given to the sender and everytime it changes itself in the block chain (so although same sender sends coins to the same receiver using this same stealth address the actual address thats log on the transaction chain is always different)

3) If someone uses a stealth address it can be recognised as a being a stealth address (I read this somewhere but may have been mis-informed)

Also I wanted to know:

1) If someone was to get access to my wallet can that person see i've sent to a stealth address can they know this (ie is this recorded in the wallet? If transaction are recorded in the wallet itself can they be deleted)

2) If someone was to get access to my wallet payee address can they see if I have received from someone who used a stealth address to send? In fact can you also use a stealth address to send?

3) If I i were to buy from an exchange do i use my darkwallet or do i have to make a separate wallet and then transfer incurring double miner fees

4) If I were to sell coins from my stealth account on an exchange can I use my darkwallet or do I have to transfer from darkwallet to exchange wallet and then sell

Off topic a little but:

With the miner fees is it, no matter how big or small the transaction fees will be the same? How do I set the fees, and how would i know in which priority group im in (is this algo based or the miner picks and chooses most lucrative?)

It is better to ask about DarkWallet here => https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=848088.0

I stopped reading about dark wallet and care'ing about it, since around year ago they didn't listen community on reddit to change project name.
If they don't want listen to community, let only developers use their software, ditch it.

I dont see a reason why DarkWallet will change their name. I mean what is there in a name at all when it comes to a bitcoin wallet ?

It seems to me that if darkwallet is really a bitcoin wallet, then things are a little confusing because there are these "bitcoin dark" coins running around and "darkcoins" too.  In any case, I don't mind resuing keys from time to time so although perhaps my anonymitiy is a bit compromised, I'm happy generating raw transactions using bitcoind for now.