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So I got this on my trust today when I woke up. I would like to know whats going on or why I don't even got a messege with a liltte explain on whats up on here.

OK It is Illegal to farm accounts ? scammer ? I'm not able to farm and sell accounts is it illegal ?

If BadBear left you this feedback it has (surely) the proofs, maybe the same IP address.

I highly doubt that you are genuinely unaware of why you have received this rating. Regardless, the best way for you to resolve this would be to PM BadBear, although I'm guessing he will post said list publicly now that you have made this thread.

If what Im doing isn't illegal or agains't any forum rule I'm screwed all my accounts are banned now, this is not very cool u know.

Of course It is the same IP address I created over 40 accounts and Log in manually every day to post and get my activity increased to later sell them. Can anyone tell me what's the illegal part of it ? Thanks. I don't use any kind of sofware or anything all I do is manually.

Your accounts were most likely banned because the content of your posts was very low quality. Having multiple accounts is fine, but spamming to raise activity will lead to a justifiable ban. Like I said, PM BadBear or wait for him to post here if you want to know the exact reason. I would also move this to Meta, since he will be more likely to see this topic in that section.

Thanks sir. I will no longer use any of them or request any unban and stop doing so since it was a large time work for me anyway. But I tought it wasn't illegal to post into offtopic full to increase activity by accounts that were used to sell. If Im still able to do it as I was i will stop anyway. I can't get negative feedback everytime I do something " wrong " cuz It does ruin my bussines. Please as soon as any responsable read this gimme a PM or just post here below. I got no issues posting the entire list of my alt account since none of them was involded in any kind of anything more than posting in offtopic for increase activity and I wasn't aware of the illegal part of it. I may asked in Currency Exchange for certain deals but It was just to inform myself or several information that will highly help me. Thanks.

I'm sorry for spam you BadBear on Pm's but this looks like always something happen I get red trusted instantly and instead of people taking it out quickly i got days and days to do so and later then they got me with neutral that doesn't help me. I just locked my thread for selling/buying. looking foward to solve this issue and wait the time i have to wait as always. thanks.

Verification https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=395755
HopeYouLose  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=406670
UsedToBitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388884
MTGObitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=399185 (didn't scam on this but did fake a trade/feedback, was outed by a user so you abandoned it)
MinebyMine https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=413433
MinningCoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=421531


That's all of the previous ones I think, you have a couple more current ones that have active buying/selling threads in currency exchange.

OnceAgain  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=419363
CatchYouMate https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=423166 (faked a trade with escrow for feedback)
WillTradeForFood https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=431843

Then you have your other accounts you were farming for later.

Your other accounts with garbage posts being banned had nothing to do with the feedback, it was just something I noticed while looking into it, so I dealt with it too. I'm guessing they were your future scam accounts, but who knows. Convenient that you sent me a list of them to be "transparent", after logging into them and seeing they were banned.

I've updated your feedback with a link to this post.

Here is a list that he gave me of accounts he recently created. I am not in a position to check them right now but this is what he sent me.

OnceAgain and CatchYouMate are mines. Legit all other aren't.
I was able to log in into MTGObitcoin lately but is afriend account as is Verification (Who was scammed in the past).

I don't know anything related to other accounts you mention.


I didn't fake an escrow for feedback , since I didn't ask for feedback to my current account. That was labeled to be a scammer since my first post they say I didn't have coins and bla bla as every new happen to be. I actually can probe I did buy some neteller $ same second it happened. Because someone buy coins with Neteller IRL.

MTGOBitcoin wasn't a fake anything , I really made an exchange. I just like to get feedback from Outforum and that isn't illegal.

Now what I should do to point you out that the other doesn't belong to me ? Because ur wrong at this point.

I mean I didn't scam anyone and this leave me out of nothing I just would have to leave this forum were i spended lot of time lately.
I don't need to scam any one.

I would like to have all my accounts banned if you point me as  serial scammer for real . Just for the saftly of the community. (Because is the same thing to have an account labeled as scammer than not having it)

If you were vouching for verification and he ended up as a scammer then you are responsible unless you make some kind of disclosure that you did not want to be held accountable.

The scam accusacation against verification has him speaking in a similar way that I know you speak/type

Yeap i know he actually WAS SCAMMED , and i helped him with it , and after no one helps ( as always here ) he abandoned de account I used to write because he's almost worst than me writting english. ( He didn't end up as scammer and if you think so or anyone who think so is wrong)

How exactly was he scammed? From the looks of it he rented an account for $200 with the stipulation that no loans would be taken out against the rented account and then he tried to take out a $9,000 loan.

I think you should have made sure your "friend" wasn't going to scam before vouching for him. There is also most likely other evidence that the two of you are one and the same.

He rented a Magic Online account and the forum account , he was looking to start buying/selling as i do.
There was a term on DO NOT TAKE A LOAN. Do not take isn't do not ASK, he asked me if he could ask and I say yes why not let's see what's the level of a hero account (Both were new on the forum i was a lil bit old than him in the forum.

After that happened. (Look if he or I were looking to scam we change account passwords and emails all and then do whatsover we de3mand to scam)

 I never had or he any point to scam anyone.

Niann the account holder keep over 400 usd in MTGO merchandasing and 200 usd in BTC.


9K usd don't change my life, I won't ruin my name you know ? I can't change it , I mean i can but I won't . As i said i got no problems on show anything since i don't fucking scammed anyone.

I just want BadBear to clarify that I did scam someone ( Something that is actually wrong )

And then just ask for a full ban of my accounts if this happen to be and label me as scammer that' something IM NOT.

Thanks.

so you would agree that if he did actually take out a loan with the account that he would in fact be scamming, correct?

Correct. He wasn't going to. And he didn't the only one who scammed there was niann and tecshare who im sure have some $ with him for helping Niann.

Okay since actually taking out a loan = scamming, since he was trying to take out a loan = trying to scam.

You don't need to actually be successful in stealing to be a scammer.

You'r wrong.

Taking out a loan would be a scam.

Asking for a loan would be asking for a loan and nothing else.

Triyng to scam would involve change settings and many things.

And a 9K loan is too much , and If I or my friend tried to scam that way why we didn't try it again different way ?


Why if i got accounts to scam I didn't purchase or ask someone to sell me one to scam in a better position as scammers do ?

I'm not **** don't treat me like one.


I will point MYSELF and got PROVES to point me as NOT A SCAMMER. AWALYS. cuz Im not.

I am not sure how else to explain it. If he was asking for a loan then he was trying to get a loan.

It is kinda like someone trying to steal something from the store of value and then was stopped by the police before you left the store. You would still be guilty of shoplifting.

If I'm telling you he wasn't looking to get a loan He wasn't , if he were triyng to steal as anyone with a middle of brain would change the settings. Is like someone tell you do not buy this and you ask for the price , that have a better simil than what you point out.

Is ok I can't argume with people here on that ocssation, since is not my money I DONT CARE BRO.

And my friend was scammed out of 600 anyway what you have to point about it ? NO ONE SAID A WORD niceeeeee......

I'm here to talk about my problem.

When will I get my negative feedback removed since isn't  acurate to my situation?
If i won't get removed just let me know so i just don't ever log in here since always someone will find a way to FUCK me.

FYI i can point out any kind of issue that claim me as a scammer. ANYONE.

Well what about the other accounts. Do you have anything to do with the others? As mentioned above there is evidence that says you are connected (I don't know what exact evidence is there however I imagine it is IP evidence)

OnceAgain and catchyoumate yes.


Verification https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=395755
HopeYouLose  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=406670
UsedToBitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388884
MTGObitcoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=399185 (didn't scam on this but did fake a trade/feedback, was outed by a user so you abandoned it)
MinebyMine https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=413433
MinningCoins https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=421531


None of this accounts belong to me.

I'm leaving this community. see you guys.

Will sell my accounts better I think, i think no one would like this account and other taggeds as scum but who knows.

Just logging into an account would not account for it, I don't just see an IP and blindly declare it as an alt, that would be foolish. I'm well aware sometimes people share accounts, sometimes accounts get shuffled around as collateral, sometimes someone may buy an account or somehow acquire one that scammed after the fact, none of this would result in a false positive with my methodology.

It's convenient how I was right about so many accounts (~40), but not the few that would prove you to be a scammer. 

I'm looking at the accounts and I don't really know how you make relation between me and those. Verification as the communty says is pointed out as scammer ]( FOr me he's not ) he's my friend.

The other's you point out I can't known why you think they'r in a fact related to me maybe in any messege of the accounts appears an email address of any of my accounts since it happened to be that people give out me address and then scam people and i sent coins to scammers.

Or I don't know. But I'm gonna be with this feedback in my account/alt's I would prefer to sell them and be out of this community who already by they own Knonwledge scammed a friend (and at this point I felt scammed too) lately I have been into full problems here.
If i was a scammer I would't have a problem telling so as HBO or segvec admited it. But I'm not.

I would like to know is what to do here ?

So I can't do anything to prove u wrong ? That I didn't scam any one ?

Will my accounts be banned or Iim able to sell them ?

Thanks.

pd : Of course you were right on the 40 accounts I created them in 2 days loool.

You can 'farm' accounts but only if you contribute relevantly. Post crap just to get activity and you'll lose all your accounts, but regardless of that usually scammers are shown no mercy with their alts.


Depends on the quality of your posts. Posting shitposts exclusively in the notorious spam threads if off-topic will get you banned pretty quickly but you likely wouldn't if you put some effort in, though it's often clear when users have no interest in bitcoin or actually contributing something when they just stick to off topic.

I'm not a scammer anyway. Good Luck dude.

Well I can't comment on whether you are or not but I tend to trust BadBear's judgement on these sort of matters.

I would do the same as you do I will trust he's judgement a 99% of the times. But here he's wrong calling me a scammer with no proof showed to me or a chance to prove he's wrong. It doesn't matter anyway. I just want to run out of here.

Is it a coincidence the number of situations involving scams and scam accusations toward you?