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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: srgkrgkj on February 10, 2015, 05:43:33 PM



Title: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: srgkrgkj on February 10, 2015, 05:43:33 PM
right ?
thanks cakir for clearing things up i meant 1.001 BTC is always 1 BTC ? right :P


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: cakir on February 10, 2015, 05:44:52 PM
nope.

1 btc = 0.9999 btc actually.

(There's 0.0001 btc transfer fee ;D )


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: stonerider on February 10, 2015, 06:28:37 PM
No currency or commodity stands by itself. Bitcoin is no exception to this rule. We all know why you so desperately want bitcoin to stand by itself. It's not gonna work. When compared to USD, EURO, Gold, or Silver, BTC really deflated in value for more than a year now.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: premium_domainer on February 10, 2015, 07:32:11 PM
No currency or commodity stands by itself. Bitcoin is no exception to this rule. We all know why you so desperately want bitcoin to stand by itself. It's not gonna work. When compared to USD, EURO, Gold, or Silver, BTC really deflated in value for more than a year now.

bitcoin raised from $5 to $1200 in a year.

it's just try to stable the price now.. IMO/


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: oblivi on February 10, 2015, 07:34:58 PM
Nothing has value by itself, only when compared to other things.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: lolled on February 10, 2015, 07:51:12 PM
No currency or commodity stands by itself. Bitcoin is no exception to this rule. We all know why you so desperately want bitcoin to stand by itself. It's not gonna work. When compared to USD, EURO, Gold, or Silver, BTC really deflated in value for more than a year now.

bitcoin raised from $5 to $1200 in a year.

it's just try to stable the price now.. IMO/

I doubt we would see bitcoin being stable ever.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: zimmah on February 10, 2015, 08:15:59 PM
nope.

1 btc = 0.9999 btc actually.

(There's 0.0001 btc transfer fee ;D )

the fee is optional actually


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: ParabellumLite on February 10, 2015, 08:20:12 PM
This is some real bagholder logic. It really makes me sad to see that people tell themselves this just to keep their sanity.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: ThatDGuy on February 10, 2015, 08:23:03 PM
No currency or commodity stands by itself. Bitcoin is no exception to this rule. We all know why you so desperately want bitcoin to stand by itself. It's not gonna work. When compared to USD, EURO, Gold, or Silver, BTC really deflated in value for more than a year now.

bitcoin raised from $5 to $1200 in a year.

it's just try to stable the price now.. IMO/

I doubt we would see bitcoin being stable ever.

Not for a long time.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: waterpile on February 11, 2015, 01:05:34 AM
No currency or commodity stands by itself. Bitcoin is no exception to this rule. We all know why you so desperately want bitcoin to stand by itself. It's not gonna work. When compared to USD, EURO, Gold, or Silver, BTC really deflated in value for more than a year now.

bitcoin raised from $5 to $1200 in a year.

it's just try to stable the price now.. IMO/

I doubt we would see bitcoin being stable ever.

yup, as long as it is not being regulated by the government, the price would be really swinging.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: DaBitcoinGuy on February 11, 2015, 01:15:20 AM
No currency or commodity stands by itself. Bitcoin is no exception to this rule. We all know why you so desperately want bitcoin to stand by itself. It's not gonna work. When compared to USD, EURO, Gold, or Silver, BTC really deflated in value for more than a year now.

Did bitcoin really deflate though? If you look at Mt Gox the price appears to have been artificially inflated and has been undergoing a long and painful price correction. Where would the price be if Gox was never a factor?


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: Brewins on February 11, 2015, 01:19:25 AM
No currency or commodity stands by itself. Bitcoin is no exception to this rule. We all know why you so desperately want bitcoin to stand by itself. It's not gonna work. When compared to USD, EURO, Gold, or Silver, BTC really deflated in value for more than a year now.

bitcoin raised from $5 to $1200 in a year.

it's just try to stable the price now.. IMO/

I doubt we would see bitcoin being stable ever.

yup, as long as it is not being regulated by the government, the price would be really swinging.


why government regulations would cause BTC to stabilize ???


as far I know all small markets have swings, including the ones regulated by the gov


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: fonzie on February 11, 2015, 01:23:11 AM
1 BTC = 1 BTC correct. However 1g of (insert the drug of your choice) on SR 3.5 gets more expensive every day. It seems like drugs are clearly in bubble mode!


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: waterpile on February 11, 2015, 01:47:42 AM

why government regulations would cause BTC to stabilize ???


as far I know all small markets have swings, including the ones regulated by the gov

IMO if its regulated businesses would easily adopt btc and may cause an easy distribution and flow of bitcoin.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: ThatDGuy on February 11, 2015, 03:28:47 PM

why government regulations would cause BTC to stabilize ???


as far I know all small markets have swings, including the ones regulated by the gov

IMO if its regulated businesses would easily adopt btc and may cause an easy distribution and flow of bitcoin.

It will help with acceptance and adoption, but no part of the process will be made easy - especially when many other companies would stand to lose from BTC gaining traction.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: najzenmajsen on February 11, 2015, 03:58:23 PM
Nope , 1 bitcoin = 100 bitcoins. nuff said that's just the way it is my friend.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: MilesJohan on February 11, 2015, 04:00:35 PM
Nope , 1 bitcoin = 100 bitcoins. nuff said that's just the way it is my friend.

Maybe the value might be that much after a month.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: Amph on February 11, 2015, 04:31:48 PM
well not really, the value does matter, if i buy 1 btc now and i sell it later at higher price, you know...


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: Tarantino on February 11, 2015, 04:37:40 PM
This is some real bagholder logic. It really makes me sad to see that people tell themselves this just to keep their sanity.

Surely bagholders are holding in the hope that bitcoin rises considerably? What's the point in holding otherwise? It's true though, but obviously everyone wants the fiat price people pay for it to rise.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: Jammalan the Prophet on February 11, 2015, 06:35:20 PM
right ?
thanks cakir for clearing things up i meant 1.001 BTC is always 1 BTC ? right :P

Yeah just like 1 glass of water is 1 glass of water
1 bmw is 1 bmw
1 usd is one usd.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: 1Referee on February 11, 2015, 09:36:29 PM
nope.

1 btc = 0.9999 btc actually.

(There's 0.0001 btc transfer fee ;D )

If your 1BTC has enough priority you don't have to pay any fees.

From that point of view 1BTC is still 1BTC  :)


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: redsn0w on February 11, 2015, 09:49:19 PM
nope.

1 btc = 0.9999 btc actually.

(There's 0.0001 btc transfer fee ;D )

If your 1BTC has enough priority you don't have to pay any fees.

From that point of view 1BTC is still 1BTC  :)

The same of 1€ = 1€ , but with your 1btc you can buy a lot of thing because it isn't a "inflationary coin" (or at least it seems).


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: Bralex on February 11, 2015, 10:00:14 PM
You're observation is excellent glad i found this thread so you could clear that up.

If we didn't invest more than we could afford to lose we really wouldn't care about the price anyway.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: Q7 on February 12, 2015, 03:32:56 PM
Well if everybody looks at it that way. It will take off your mind and obsession about price movement


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: ThatDGuy on February 13, 2015, 04:33:23 PM
Well if everybody looks at it that way. It will take off your mind and obsession about price movement

Price movement and volatility will be at or close to the forefront of the discussion with BTC for a long time - especially here in a Speculation sub-forum.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: nachoig on February 14, 2015, 03:40:23 AM
The OP got it right. Value =! price.

1 bannana wont't be 1 banana after 2 weeks.

But 1 BTC will remain 1 BTC after 2 weeks, 1 USD will remain 1 USD, 1 EUR will remain 1 EUR and 1 oz of gold will remain as 1 oz of gold.

Price is just a quantitative expression. The price of 1 BTC, or 1 USD, or 1 oz of gold or any other currency can change. But their value still remains.

In contrast, 1 green banana can have the same price of 1 mature banana, but do they hold the same value?


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: redsn0w on February 14, 2015, 06:47:02 AM
The OP got it right. Value =! price.

1 bannana wont't be 1 banana after 2 weeks.

But 1 BTC will remain 1 BTC after 2 weeks, 1 USD will remain 1 USD, 1 EUR will remain 1 EUR and 1 oz of gold will remain as 1 oz of gold.

Price is just a quantitative expression. The price of 1 BTC, or 1 USD, or 1 oz of gold or any other currency can change. But their value still remains.

In contrast, 1 green banana can have the same price of 1 mature banana, but do they hold the same value?

Each person have his own (bitcoin) value, there is a difference from value  & price. At the moment the bitcoin price is just a merely speculation, but its value is much bigger than now.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: manis on February 14, 2015, 12:43:04 PM
It has to be compared to something - a barrel of crude, a Big Mac, an iPhone 6.  :P
All denominate in $$ right now.


Title: Re: 1 Bitcoin is 1 Bitcoin no matter what the price ...
Post by: Rw13enlib88 on February 15, 2015, 06:29:20 AM
It has to be compared to something - a barrel of crude, a Big Mac, an iPhone 6.  :P
All denominate in $$ right now.

Compared to gold (the other store of value)