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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: goxed on February 14, 2015, 11:56:56 PM



Title: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: goxed on February 14, 2015, 11:56:56 PM
Bank Hackers Steal Millions via Malware.



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/world/bank-hackers-steal-millions-via-malware.html?_r=0


FIAT holders are slowly losing faith in their fav. currencies, converting it to crypto cold wallets.


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: ajareselde on February 15, 2015, 12:00:34 AM
Bank Hackers Steal Millions via Malware.



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/15/world/bank-hackers-steal-millions-via-malware.html?_r=0


FIAT holders are slowly losing faith in their fav. currencies, converting it to crypto cold wallets.


Im wondering is this really related to the price rise, its somewhat too early to see reaction from that event projected on bitcoin price.
Also, its likely that owners are going to be refunded in some way, which i think is general practice in those situations.


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: billyjoeallen on February 15, 2015, 12:00:59 AM
This has nothing to do with Bitcoin. Is there any evidence that bitcoin is being purchased with stolen money? Any reason to think so? 


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: ajareselde on February 15, 2015, 12:03:49 AM
This has nothing to do with Bitcoin. Is there any evidence that bitcoin is being purchased with stolen money? Any reason to think so? 

I believe he was trying to say that clients are rushing in to bitcoin with their money in fear they will loose it otherwise,
but yes, i also agree it has nothing to do with bitcoins price moving up.


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: Wandererfromthenorth on February 15, 2015, 12:04:11 AM
lol dude are you even serious


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: croato on February 15, 2015, 12:06:18 AM
Maybe not related but sure feels good.


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: gentlemand on February 15, 2015, 12:07:12 AM
Um, no?


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: the_sunship on February 15, 2015, 12:23:56 AM
When you hear them stealing billions, then maybe crypto gets a bump.


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: ssmc2 on February 15, 2015, 12:27:54 AM
When you hear them stealing billions, then maybe crypto gets a bump.

In the article they mention that the real amount stolen could be triple that. How about just 1 billion?


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: billyjoeallen on February 15, 2015, 12:28:45 AM
When you hear them stealing billions, then maybe crypto gets a bump.

The article speculates that many of the banks are underreporting the thefts for fear of bad publicity so It may be possible that billions have been stolen.

Of course the best way to rob a bank is to own one


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: criptix on February 15, 2015, 02:58:20 AM
over 100 banks in 30 nations, we talking about the US, Europe, Japan, China, Russia.
some banks had $10 million transaction limits, they got robbed several times lol.
if the report is right and this operation is going on for nearly 2 years now - i bet it is more then 300 millions....

/edit

interesting though if some money went into crypto?
they could basically transfer the money everywhere they wanted.


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: the_sunship on February 15, 2015, 03:03:52 AM
Now that I think about it... It could be this pump is the hackers buying bitcoin. Now the news is out and they are being hunted. They have to digitally hide their tracks and can with bitcoin/tumblers

I'm sure these hackers are well aware of bitcoin for laundering.


Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: billyjoeallen on February 15, 2015, 03:58:52 AM
Now that I think about it... It could be this pump is the hackers buying bitcoin. Now the news is out and they are being hunted. They have to digitally hide their tracks and can with bitcoin/tumblers

I'm sure these hackers are well aware of bitcoin for laundering.

Most exchanges have to comply with KYC/AML laws. You could pump by buying on localbitcoins but it would be more expensive. The bigger advantage is keeping the loot, not laundering. Hiding it and moving it is where BTC really helps. 
Tumblers would take a long time to mix that much scratch. You could just mix it as you needed it, a little at a time and be set for life.



Title: Re: BTC increasing because of an attack on FIAT based wallet accounts, $350M stolen
Post by: Brewins on February 15, 2015, 05:19:07 AM
This has nothing to do with Bitcoin. Is there any evidence that bitcoin is being purchased with stolen money? Any reason to think so? 

when something happens and some exchange loses coins or people lose their BTC, there are lots of people to say that we are going nowhere but down and no one will never user BTC because of it.

I think this topic is more a parody than a theory about why prices are rising