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Title: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: btcminer021 on February 15, 2015, 02:36:55 AM
I would think the cost of ASICS and power would make it financially difficult to turn any sort of profit at today's prices. Is anyone still mining today at home? What equipment are you using? What are your cost calculations?

Cost of equipment?
GH/s?
Cost of power?


Electricity is about $0.25 kwh where I live :(


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: btcminer021 on February 15, 2015, 06:11:37 PM
Looking at the product offerings from todays "trusted" manufacturers, it looks like at home mining will never again be profitable. I continue to mine for fun as a hobby, but it's sad to see it is no longer profitable.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 15, 2015, 06:23:52 PM
25 cents is not possible to profit.

10 cents you can make out.

I have 11 pieces in house.

8 sp20e's
1 sp20
1 s-5
1 avalon 4.1  total of 12.1 th

I make about 500 usd a month after power is paid.

A guy like you can only host someplace other then your house.

I have 2 s-5's in china


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=934581.0   lee is decent I have done a dragon miner from april 2014 to august 2014

I have been doing the pair of s-5's for now.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: btcminer021 on February 15, 2015, 06:29:34 PM
I still mine a bit for hobby, at a loss, using GPU (Bonus: warms the room in the winter).

Since you have the SP20 and S5, which do you prefer?


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 15, 2015, 07:46:10 PM
I still mine a bit for hobby, at a loss, using GPU (Bonus: warms the room in the winter).

Since you have the SP20 and S5, which do you prefer?

For my house the SP20E is better.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: sidehack on February 15, 2015, 11:23:53 PM
My hosting is set up with in mind to help out the home-scale miners that can't afford to run hardware at home. Industrial scale is kinda ruining the landscape for everyone.

My entire apartment has been heated by a Dragon miner for the last few months. Furnace only runs when I need it quiet in here. Another two months and that's probably getting shut down and moved to the museum.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: BTCish on February 16, 2015, 11:52:40 AM
Those who has access to free or very low cost electricity still is mining.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: redsn0w on February 16, 2015, 11:58:36 AM
Those who has access to free or very low cost electricity still is mining.

Yes it is obviously if you have access to free or pay low electricity cost the bitcoin, mining is still worthy. The second thing is the cost of the machines.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: Twipple on February 16, 2015, 11:41:39 PM
Those who has access to free or very low cost electricity still is mining.

Yes it is obviously if you have access to free or pay low electricity cost the bitcoin, mining is still worthy. The second thing is the cost of the machines.

I doubt if its still worthy even at the current price. It is simply too expensive now, and the ROI would be negative.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: philipma1957 on February 17, 2015, 01:28:08 AM
Those who has access to free or very low cost electricity still is mining.

Yes it is obviously if you have access to free or pay low electricity cost the bitcoin, mining is still worthy. The second thing is the cost of the machines.

I doubt if its still worthy even at the current price. It is simply too expensive now, and the ROI would be negative.

so if you have free power and 1 s-5 it is not going to ROI .
pretty sure you are wrong about that.

I will even add in a psu  cost peg the s-5 + the psu at 2.159 btc total  about 500 usd

and you go into the black on sept 4th if you use 3% growth rate per adjustment

into the black on sept 30th if you use 4% growth rate

into the black on oct 27th if you use 5% growth rate


the net work has averaged  under 2.5% a jump sep 25th 2014


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: fullzero on February 17, 2015, 01:17:32 PM
Even at New England power rates; it will always make more sense to run a miner in place of a space heater.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: naoufel on February 17, 2015, 03:15:22 PM
Hello guys ,
I am just thinking of it at the moment , I have a spare place and electricity cost is about 0.02 usd for the first 128KHw and then 0.04USD per Khw .
I am thinking of getting Spondoolies SP31 X2 to reach 9TH/s . According to my calculations I would make about 18.5 USD per day not taking in account the equipment cost , can you correct me if I am wrong ?


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: notlist3d on February 17, 2015, 08:48:32 PM
I still mine a bit for hobby, at a loss, using GPU (Bonus: warms the room in the winter).

Since you have the SP20 and S5, which do you prefer?

I have used both and personally i like both.  I just recently underclocked my SP20's.  They have a amazing range as far as running full speed or underclock.

Sadly for you at .25 on electricity you really need to find a place to host it.  That is just very very high and makes ROI very unlikely.  Personally I like 10 or under for ROI.   But if done right and you sell miner at end you can make ROI at higher, I don't want to mention name but I have seen it done in mid teens on electricity.  But have not seen anyone do math with over 20 that makes ROI.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: ChuckBuck on February 17, 2015, 09:51:08 PM
I would think the cost of ASICS and power would make it financially difficult to turn any sort of profit at today's prices. Is anyone still mining today at home? What equipment are you using? What are your cost calculations?

Cost of equipment?
GH/s?
Cost of power?


Electricity is about $0.25 kwh where I live :(

Ouch, $0.25 kWH, that's a killer rate...not in a good way!   :(

I thought my NYC electrical rates at $0.19 kWH is bad!  My wife kicked my ass and my miners out when I was running some Block Erupters back in 2013 once she saw the bill, so I had to "host" them at work.

Had some Ants, some dragons 1TH's and had myself a nice mini farm.  Once my "hosting" deal ran out, I was shit out of luck, and just quit mining altogether.

If it's unprofitable for me, man I know there's no point for you mining.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: novak@gekkoscience on February 26, 2015, 08:04:47 PM
I have a tube running in my house as a space heater.  I could probably expand, since I have pretty cheap power here, I just don't have a lot of space. It's already made back almost three times what it cost me, if you exclude power.  Including power I'm still about 0.4 coin ahead, even with prices this bad.

--
novak


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: sickhouse on February 26, 2015, 09:35:32 PM
Scarily small @ home

1: S3
1: S1
1: Thunder X3
How much do you make per month? When do you plan on sell the EQ?


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: sickhouse on February 26, 2015, 10:02:23 PM
Scarily small @ home

1: S3
1: S1
1: Thunder X3
How much do you make per month? When do you plan on sell the EQ?
Honestly not much I have the S1 on a solo pool (it's a lotto heater :P ) and s3 on a pps, and the X3 was just ordered. I had more like 4M Hex miner but I moved and a PSU died so it just sits (really looking to sell it). I probably make around 20$ a month right now because I don't mine constantly and I use it as a space heater for my office room so I justify the electric.

I don't know what you mean by EQ.
Oh, I mean equipment - Sorry for the confusion. $20 sounds decent if you don't mine 24/7, how much did it cost and how much power do you need?


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: enryk on February 27, 2015, 07:49:29 AM
People who have the rigs from before, and have been long time miners would definitely be mining if they still have access to cheap or free electricity, as it would be a waste of it , if they dont.
But as far as I know, I know no one who is getting into it.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: Swimmer63 on February 27, 2015, 04:44:38 PM
Still mine but all miners are hosted.  My local power is .16/kwh.  I am paying between .08-.065/kwh at hosted facilities in WA state and China.  Profit is way down, but there is still a profit.


Title: Re: Is anyone really still mining today on a "personal use" scale?
Post by: Mayuyu48 on February 27, 2015, 05:01:16 PM
only get small profit in home scaling mining now :(
most of my friend mine bitcoin just  for fun, as their hobbies. not try to make a good profit anymore
soon mining is just for big player who has large scale mining facility and strong capital