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Title: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Coinbuddy on February 18, 2015, 04:24:37 AM
CAVIRTEX, a Canadian Bitcoin exchange, has announced that it will be permanently ceasing all operations in March. The exchange cited security breaches as their reason for closing.

Read here http://coinfinance.com/news/cavirtex-bitcoin-exchange-shuts-down-after-being-hacked


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: knight22 on February 18, 2015, 04:27:47 AM
Yeah that's sad. I've been using them with no issues for almost 3 years. I'm now moving to QuadrigaCX, site looks pretty slick.



Edit:


Update for bitcoin withdrawals:

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UPDATE: To withdraw BTC please fill in your return address in settings -> user prerferences then email greg@cavirtex.com to get activated

https://twitter.com/CAVIRTEX/status/569866796569751552


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Quartx on February 18, 2015, 04:28:16 AM
Damn, too many security breaches at exchanges recently..


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Prelude on February 18, 2015, 07:04:35 AM
Mother fucker...


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Undermood on February 18, 2015, 07:12:17 AM
we, as a normal user, cant afford to lose any more at the hacked exchanges any more. We want security exchanges when trading, some sort of decentralized exchange.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Q7 on February 18, 2015, 08:04:26 AM
Well, at least they will return all the customer's fund.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Kazimir on February 18, 2015, 08:12:06 AM
we, as a normal user, cant afford to lose any more at the hacked exchanges any more. We want security exchanges when trading, some sort of decentralized exchange.
Did you pledge for BitSquare (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=932517.0) ?


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: gbianchi on February 18, 2015, 09:06:44 AM
DO NOT HOLD YOUR BTC ON THIRD PARTY EXCHANGES – BE YOUR OWN BANK

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945881.0


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: newIndia on February 18, 2015, 09:08:29 AM
CAVIRTEX, a Canadian Bitcoin exchange, has announced that it will be permanently ceasing all operations in March. The exchange cited security breaches as their reason for closing.

Read here http://coinfinance.com/news/cavirtex-bitcoin-exchange-shuts-down-after-being-hacked

Is there any customer fund lost because of this ?


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: CanadaBits on February 18, 2015, 09:53:50 AM
everyone is getting hacked


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Rantzbitz on February 18, 2015, 01:25:53 PM
CA Virtex was not hacked for any FUNDS but did have some information compromised.
In my opinion this is a risk vs profitability move

CA Virtex is also regulated by FINTRAC which is Canada's FINCEN.
If this was an actual hack. Canadian News would of been all over it.

Another story here



http://bitcoinbarbie.com/canadian-bitcoin-exchange-cavirtex-is-shutting-down-operations/


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Snipe85 on February 18, 2015, 01:42:35 PM
DO NOT HOLD YOUR BTC ON THIRD PARTY EXCHANGES – BE YOUR OWN BANK

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945881.0
They should start making exchanges that use your own addresses as storage.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: ranochigo on February 18, 2015, 02:04:59 PM
They did not lose any BTC. Their old copy of their database with encrypted passwords and other user infos was compromised. This is a huge security risk if the hashing algorithm is weak or other sensitive informations are kept encrypted.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Coinshot on February 18, 2015, 03:26:40 PM
It seems there is a new hack every other day. This is not good for BTC, but then it may benefit by killing incompetent exchanges and only the strong ones survive.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: ChuckBuck on February 18, 2015, 03:32:38 PM
Unfortunately, this is all a part of the learning curve for these exchanges of this new 6 year old technology.  Mistakes and lesson learned for both the providers and the end users.

Seems there weren't any thefts or losses of the scope and scale of Gox or Stamp even, just privacy and personal info leaked, which although bad, aren't quite the losses in the millions we continue to hear with those other exchanges.

Short term it's bad, but long term it's necessary to weed out the weak and incompetent players, so Bitcoin exchanges as a whole can step forward.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: thejaytiesto on February 18, 2015, 04:59:43 PM
Damn, too many security breaches at exchanges recently..

It's not security breaches, its the owners running away with the money because they are scared at the bitcoin crash. Too bad idiots trusted their money into them instead of leaving them on their wallets or waiting for the Gemini exchange.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: kinnu on February 18, 2015, 05:30:47 PM
I have seen many exchanges scamming people. people should choose exchanges carefully


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: leopard2 on February 18, 2015, 07:05:28 PM
that makes no sense, if there was no loss why did they not simply fix the security breach by migrating to a new DB, reset password etc.?

VERY fishy  ???


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Bobsurplus on February 18, 2015, 07:06:34 PM
that makes no sense, if there was no loss why did they not simply fix the security breach by migrating to a new DB, reset password etc.?

VERY fishy  ???

That's what I been saying. Something feels off here.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: bobo418 on February 18, 2015, 07:20:29 PM
Maybe one of the home-based workers locked in Joseph Davids basement finally ran off with the thumb drive that had the database on it.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Bobsurplus on February 18, 2015, 07:23:43 PM
Maybe one of the home-based workers locked in Joseph Davids basement finally ran off with the thumb drive that had the database on it.

Quite possible.... I'd give this scenario a 15% chance of being correct.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: GigaBit on February 18, 2015, 08:53:17 PM
Well, looks like Canadian Exchange options are once again dwindled down to nothing.

Vault of Satoshi closed not long ago, not as a result of any security stuff, they just... closed shop; was the only good exchange in Canada.

I don't need a $ exchange anymore... viva mining.

Not shocking, not caring.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on February 18, 2015, 08:55:52 PM
CAVIRTEX, a Canadian Bitcoin exchange, has announced that it will be permanently ceasing all operations in March. The exchange cited security breaches as their reason for closing.

Read here http://coinfinance.com/news/cavirtex-bitcoin-exchange-shuts-down-after-being-hacked

It has become an habit for an Exchange to claim it was hacked......just to run away with the cash bag!

MtGox
BTC-e
CAVIRTEX

...what's next?


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: mayax on February 18, 2015, 09:16:40 PM
CAVIRTEX, a Canadian Bitcoin exchange, has announced that it will be permanently ceasing all operations in March. The exchange cited security breaches as their reason for closing.

Read here http://coinfinance.com/news/cavirtex-bitcoin-exchange-shuts-down-after-being-hacked

It has become an habit for an Exchange to claim it was hacked......just to run away with the cash bag!

MtGox
BTC-e
CAVIRTEX

...what's next?

You can't never know the truth.

it may be very true. poor programming is the cause of hacking. even a very strong programmer team cannot guarantee that you cannot be hacked. however it's very expensive to hire very good programmers....
also, you have to hire permanently a programmer and a server admin. i don't think that a small-medium exchange service can afford a such thing


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: moriartybitcoin on February 18, 2015, 10:35:56 PM
Wow, this is such GOOD NEWS!

I hated CaVirtex from the start. They stole 8.932010 btc from me on August 12, 2014 and blamed it on hackers.

THEN they admitted it wasn't hackers, but they needed me to fax them ID, PASSPORT, and BANK STATEMENT to release my funds.

What FUCKERS .. glad they are FINISHED


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: gogxmagog on February 19, 2015, 12:03:22 AM
I've used them for a couple of years and while I've Not been burned of actually hacking theft, they take forever to do their "instant" bank transfers, and I don't see how he can be losing money when he places a ridiculous spread and charges exorbitant fees.
It seems like it's one guy running it by himself.
At least he's out before anyone got burned, does anyone have any money in there still? I think there's 12 cents CAD in my account.
Keep the change lol


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: tss on February 19, 2015, 02:55:36 AM
i think btc is on the hacker radar now.  will 2015 be the year of hacked coin?


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: ranochigo on February 19, 2015, 02:56:15 PM
that makes no sense, if there was no loss why did they not simply fix the security breach by migrating to a new DB, reset password etc.?

VERY fishy  ???
If they get hacked, most users would lose trust in them and leave them. They probably think that they have no confidence of holding onto user's private information. If they are insolvent, they shouldn't be able to refund all the users.
i think btc is on the hacker radar now.  will 2015 be the year of hacked coin?
Bullshit. Poor security practices are result of hacking of exchanges, this can always happen with government organizations and bank if they do not have good security. It is not related with vulnerability in Bitcoin protocol.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: gadman2 on February 19, 2015, 03:27:26 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=956768.msg10468445#msg10468445


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: picolo on February 19, 2015, 04:30:25 PM
CAVIRTEX, a Canadian Bitcoin exchange, has announced that it will be permanently ceasing all operations in March. The exchange cited security breaches as their reason for closing.

Read here http://coinfinance.com/news/cavirtex-bitcoin-exchange-shuts-down-after-being-hacked

Did they reimburse everyone?


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: elianite on February 19, 2015, 05:10:03 PM
CAVIRTEX, a Canadian Bitcoin exchange, has announced that it will be permanently ceasing all operations in March. The exchange cited security breaches as their reason for closing.

Read here http://coinfinance.com/news/cavirtex-bitcoin-exchange-shuts-down-after-being-hacked

Did they reimburse everyone?

not yet.
btc/ ltc withdrawals still closed, but bank deposits should be working.
I made a $ withdrawal the other day, should receive it tomorrow or Tuesday at latest.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: moriartybitcoin on February 20, 2015, 12:03:57 AM
DO NOT HOLD YOUR BTC ON THIRD PARTY EXCHANGES – BE YOUR OWN BANK

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945881.0

I agree with this .. use an exchange to buy or sell Bitcoins but do NOT hold Bitcoins at an exchange permanently.

I don't even recommend to my own users that they hold bitcoins at my exchanges .. just buy/sell and withdraw to an offline wallet.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: elianite on February 21, 2015, 01:45:12 AM
CAVIRTEX, a Canadian Bitcoin exchange, has announced that it will be permanently ceasing all operations in March. The exchange cited security breaches as their reason for closing.

Read here http://coinfinance.com/news/cavirtex-bitcoin-exchange-shuts-down-after-being-hacked

Did they reimburse everyone?

not yet.
btc/ ltc withdrawals still closed, but bank deposits should be working.
I made a $ withdrawal the other day, should receive it tomorrow or Tuesday at latest.

I can confirm that my $500 withdrawal came into my bank account today.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: Bobsurplus on February 21, 2015, 03:23:33 AM
I too can confirm that CAD withdrawals are working.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: cazkooo on February 21, 2015, 04:52:22 AM
DO NOT HOLD YOUR BTC ON THIRD PARTY EXCHANGES – BE YOUR OWN BANK

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=945881.0

I agree with this .. use an exchange to buy or sell Bitcoins but do NOT hold Bitcoins at an exchange permanently.

I don't even recommend to my own users that they hold bitcoins at my exchanges .. just buy/sell and withdraw to an offline wallet.

exchanger is not a bank, do not store what you dont want to sell since it is an exchanger, a palce to sell and buy, so keep your bitcoins in your own wallet


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: knight22 on February 23, 2015, 05:56:04 PM
Update for bitcoin withdrawals:

Quote
UPDATE: To withdraw BTC please fill in your return address in settings -> user prerferences then email greg@cavirtex.com to get activated

https://twitter.com/CAVIRTEX/status/569866796569751552


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: elianite on February 23, 2015, 08:43:29 PM
I have been able to withdraw all my BTC from the exchange as of now.

I am very proud of CaVirtex.


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: leopard2 on February 23, 2015, 08:44:05 PM
that makes no sense, if there was no loss why did they not simply fix the security breach by migrating to a new DB, reset password etc.?

VERY fishy  ???
If they get hacked, most users would lose trust in them and leave them. They probably think that they have no confidence of holding onto user's private information. If they are insolvent, they shouldn't be able to refund all the users.
No, I don't swallow that. Lots of places were hacked temporarily (btce poloniex stamp and others) and they fixed the issues and moved on. It must have been a breach so severe they did not dare to keep going (which is almost unthinkable), OR, it was not a hack at all but a visit from the men in black

like this email service in the Snowden affair http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

sure enough government bullies love systems that hold centralized private keys like banks or Lavabit  >:(


Title: Re: Cavirtex exchange shutdown after being hacked
Post by: ranochigo on February 24, 2015, 09:43:11 AM
that makes no sense, if there was no loss why did they not simply fix the security breach by migrating to a new DB, reset password etc.?

VERY fishy  ???
If they get hacked, most users would lose trust in them and leave them. They probably think that they have no confidence of holding onto user's private information. If they are insolvent, they shouldn't be able to refund all the users.
No, I don't swallow that. Lots of places were hacked temporarily (btce poloniex stamp and others) and they fixed the issues and moved on. It must have been a breach so severe they did not dare to keep going (which is almost unthinkable), OR, it was not a hack at all but a visit from the men in black

like this email service in the Snowden affair http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

sure enough government bullies love systems that hold centralized private keys like banks or Lavabit  >:(
Those hack are less severe with no user data or one or two due to poor security by the user. Even though bitstamp and poloniex lost a lot of Bitcoins, no user data was compromised, only Bitcoins were lost. They can easily fix this and cover the hacked amount easily given their trade volume. A database leak is obviously very severe compared to Bitcoin loss which is recoverable. Once user data are seen by others, the privacy of the user would be breached. Cavirtex probably didn't have confidence to hold user's fund and personal information after that hack even if they fix it.