Title: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 02:31:04 AM 1. BS&T and PPT will forever (if they still exist years from now) decrease interest rate payments due to the rising demand for bitcoins, the rising difficulty to mine bitcoins, and the block halving every 4 years (one upcoming soon).
2. Pirate trading with customer funds makes him somewhat of a "money manager" which the last time I checked you need to be licensed to do that sort of thing. Then again with bitcoin, the law is hazy. 3. People trusting Pirate with their bitcoins without expecting pirate to truly reveal his identity (personal information/contact information) is shady. Now now, meeting up in Vegas isn't much more than a stunt to keep people "comfortable" with investing with him. 4. With Pirate being in Vegas and interest payments being cut in half just about and another round of payments coming up shortly, isn't the the market oddly quiet? I think this confirms what we know based on market movements that he is a big player in the bitcoin market of trading. 5. At some point the gig will be up. There is a threshold coming soon (no predictions) that will likely force Pirate to return everyone's funds (if he can) or run with everyone's funds. 6. If I'm going to "gamble" or trade with my money and possibly lose...i would rather lose because I bought or sold at the wrong time than to have someone else (i.e. Pirate) do it for me and lose it. Feel free to add below. Don't be surprised if PPT/Pirate/BS&T joins the names like MyBitcoin.com and Bitcoinica. Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: bitcoinBull on July 28, 2012, 02:39:40 AM Right before his supposed meet-up, he opens the "trust" to anyone, no referral/invite necessary. LOL
Looking forward to a bunch of posts from people wondering about their withdrawals... poor saps ::) Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: Frankie on July 28, 2012, 02:43:49 AM Moar threads on the same subject! Let's do a 51% attack on open threads!
Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 02:47:14 AM Ugh, how many of these bloody threads do we need!! If the mods in this place were chosen for their mod skills rather than their trolling ability we'd just consolidate the million other threads on this subject into one, like any other normal forum would. Why do people get so pissy about threads? I can understand getting mad about an asshole cutting you off on the road but a thread on a FORUM!?!?!?!?! OMG it's the end of the world. :o :o :o :D :D :D Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 02:48:18 AM Right before his supposed meet-up, he opens the "trust" to anyone, no referral/invite necessary. LOL Looking forward to a bunch of posts from people wondering about their withdrawals... poor saps ::) Ah fuck it, get on the ignore list you annoying twat. After all this has blown over and Pirate has or hasn't defaulted I'll take you off, but for now I just can't stomach the same old bullshit coming out of your mouth constantly. New Form of a comeback: <hit the ignore button>....."TAKE THAT!" :D Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: RoloTonyBrownTown on July 28, 2012, 02:49:29 AM EDIT: Screw it, I'll just report the thread, see if anything comes of it (who am I kidding).
Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 03:16:27 AM EDIT: Screw it, I'll just report the thread, see if anything comes of it (who am I kidding). The thread wasn't even meant to troll. This is the speculation SUBFORUM. And I am posting about speculation. Where am I going wrong? Or do you just like to cry a lot? Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: majamalu on July 28, 2012, 03:40:42 AM EDIT: Screw it, I'll just report the thread, see if anything comes of it (who am I kidding). ¿? I was enjoying the thread. Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: ArticMine on July 28, 2012, 04:09:29 AM ... Don't be surprised if PPT/Pirate/BS&T joins the names like MyBitcoin.com and Bitcoinica. My one comment: The chances of the above happening increases with every increase of the BTC / USD exchange rate. Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: humanitee on July 28, 2012, 04:23:25 AM Ugh, how many of these bloody threads do we need!! If the mods in this place were chosen for their mod skills rather than their trolling ability we'd just consolidate the million other threads on this subject into one, like any other normal forum would. Why do people get so pissy about threads? I can understand getting mad about an asshole cutting you off on the road but a thread on a FORUM!?!?!?!?! OMG it's the end of the world. :o :o :o :D :D :D Because: 1) There are already SO MANY POSTS about this subject. When pirate changed his rates, there were at least 6 threads simultaneously occurring on this forums all talking about it. It is/was too hard to keep up with the topic because it was ongoing in too many places at one time. The mods did a horrible job of locking/redirecting threads, and in my mind continue to do so (no offense mods, my two cents). 2) This subforum is for speculating ON THE PRICE OF BITCOIN. I wish the mods would either enforce that or change the description of this subforum. Can I speculate on whether or not pirate's next fart is going to stink? I hope not. 3) Unnecessary clutter is unnecessary. Rolo is totally right. Every other forum I've been on would have consolidated all these threads into one in a heartbeat. Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 05:08:05 AM Ugh, how many of these bloody threads do we need!! If the mods in this place were chosen for their mod skills rather than their trolling ability we'd just consolidate the million other threads on this subject into one, like any other normal forum would. Why do people get so pissy about threads? I can understand getting mad about an asshole cutting you off on the road but a thread on a FORUM!?!?!?!?! OMG it's the end of the world. :o :o :o :D :D :D Because: 1) There are already SO MANY POSTS about this subject. When pirate changed his rates, there were at least 6 threads simultaneously occurring on this forums all talking about it. It is/was too hard to keep up with the topic because it was ongoing in too many places at one time. The mods did a horrible job of locking/redirecting threads, and in my mind continue to do so (no offense mods, my two cents). 2) This subforum is for speculating ON THE PRICE OF BITCOIN. I wish the mods would either enforce that or change the description of this subforum. Can I speculate on whether or not pirate's next fart is going to stink? I hope not. 3) Unnecessary clutter is unnecessary. Rolo is totally right. Every other forum I've been on would have consolidated all these threads into one in a heartbeat. I dont see this subforum called "The price speculation of bitcoin"..........Under economy -> Speculation Unnecessary whining is unnecessary. Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: notme on July 28, 2012, 05:11:29 AM You're right, but it is subtitled "Speculation about the Bitcoin price"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=7.0 Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 05:38:34 AM You're right, but it is subtitled "Speculation about the Bitcoin price" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=7.0 Didn't see that because I never go under economics. Oh well...mods haven't mad a fuss about all the previous posts.... Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: btcprophet on July 28, 2012, 06:10:40 AM You're right, but it is subtitled "Speculation about the Bitcoin price" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=7.0 I'd say that someone with rumored 250k of BTC and god knows how many USD in the market is very much relevant to the price of Bitcoin... Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: humanitee on July 28, 2012, 06:17:40 AM Yeah but his post doesn't address pirate's operation in relation to the price of Bitcoin. Furthermore, there is already a thread on this subject here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91508.200
Literally every item in smoothies list above has been discussed on this forum, ad nauseum. His post brings absolutely nothing new to the table. That thread is less than 8 days old, this discussion belongs there. Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: Vladimir on July 28, 2012, 06:37:19 AM Ugh, how many of these bloody threads do we need!! If the mods in this place were chosen for their mod skills rather than their trolling ability we'd just consolidate the million other threads on this subject into one, like any other normal forum would. Why do people get so pissy about threads? That is simple. They are a part of the scam and they see new threads and any mention of ponzi as an attack shortening longevity and magnitude of their scam. What they are doing is a p2p ponzi and they are effectively co-conspirators. This goes for all those intermediaries, which I see personally as scams that are as bad as the ponzi itself. This goes to all those who decided to gamble while being fully aware of this being ponzi and who are here on forum with a marketing mission of promoting their scam because they benefit from this (by defrauding others). We see here p2p technology and principles applied in attempt to dillute guilt. This is simple. Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud and all those who promote it, including, operators of various intermediate "investment" vehicles and other promotes of ponzis are in my opinion as guilty of fraud as the direct operators of the ponzi scheme. Now here is a very high chance of imminent collapse of a ponzi scheme with lots of things pointing to this. The sooner the better. Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 07:05:20 AM EDIT: Screw it, I'll just report the thread, see if anything comes of it (who am I kidding). Two things I noticed about you: 1. You erased your original post in this thread. 2. Your signature says it all. You dont think pirate will default and given that you dont like having people put up logical arguments that support him defaulting/running....you pull the "oh not another thread" argument. Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 07:07:21 AM Right before his supposed meet-up, he opens the "trust" to anyone, no referral/invite necessary. LOL Looking forward to a bunch of posts from people wondering about their withdrawals... poor saps ::) Where can I find evidence of this? Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: btcprophet on July 28, 2012, 07:41:42 AM Furthermore, there is already a thread on this subject here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=91508.200 Literally every item in smoothies list above has been discussed on this forum, ad nauseum. His post brings absolutely nothing new to the table. That thread is less than 8 days old, this discussion belongs there. That may well be true, I was only disagreeing with your second point. Where can I find evidence of this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90327.msg1048502#msg1048502 Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: FreeMoney on July 28, 2012, 08:22:26 AM Does that post mean that the 500BTC 'trust deposit' is no longer required?
Also, way to go on making another pirate thread, I never would have thought to do that! Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: Bitcoin Oz on July 28, 2012, 08:24:47 AM Ugh, how many of these bloody threads do we need!! If the mods in this place were chosen for their mod skills rather than their trolling ability we'd just consolidate the million other threads on this subject into one, like any other normal forum would. Why do people get so pissy about threads? That is simple. They are a part of the scam and they see new threads and any mention of ponzi as an attack shortening longevity and magnitude of their scam. What they are doing is a p2p ponzi and they are effectively co-conspirators. This goes for all those intermediaries, which I see personally as scams that are as bad as the ponzi itself. This goes to all those who decided to gamble while being fully aware of this being ponzi and who are here on forum with a marketing mission of promoting their scam because they benefit from this (by defrauding others). We see here p2p technology and principles applied in attempt to dillute guilt. This is simple. Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud and all those who promote it, including, operators of various intermediate "investment" vehicles and other promotes of ponzis are in my opinion as guilty of fraud as the direct operators of the ponzi scheme. Now here is a very high chance of imminent collapse of a ponzi scheme with lots of things pointing to this. The sooner the better. Im guessing there will be a lot of "scammer" labels applied once it collapses. Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: smoothie on July 28, 2012, 08:30:58 AM Wow....I just saw that post Pirate made about lifting the referral requirement to deposit BTC in a savings account with him.
That has "I need more bitcoins because I suck at trading and need to pay off the old investors" all over it. Let's open the door for more suckers to send me bitcoins Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: Shadow383 on July 28, 2012, 04:58:36 PM Wow....I just saw that post Pirate made about lifting the referral requirement to deposit BTC in a savings account with him. That has "I need more bitcoins because I suck at trading and need to pay off the old investors" all over it. Let's open the door for more suckers to send me bitcoins Any idea when this "meet-up" is supposed to be occuring? Title: Re: Speculation concerning BS&T and PPT - Facts and thoughts Post by: DublinBrian on July 28, 2012, 05:13:08 PM That is simple. They are a part of the scam and they see new threads and any mention of ponzi as an attack shortening longevity and magnitude of their scam. What they are doing is a p2p ponzi and they are effectively co-conspirators. This goes for all those intermediaries, which I see personally as scams that are as bad as the ponzi itself. This goes to all those who decided to gamble while being fully aware of this being ponzi and who are here on forum with a marketing mission of promoting their scam because they benefit from this (by defrauding others). +1All cons need shills (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill). Pirate has quite a few shills working hard for him, on the forum. Note what wikipedia says about shills Quote Shilling is illegal in many circumstances and in many jurisdictions[1] because of the potential for fraud and damage. |