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Hello,

I am asking forum moderators to change the maximum lenght for the Hero and Legendary Members signature.

Now on it's 4000 chars lenght. Full Member and Sr Member is also 4000 max lenght.

I request/suggest to change as soon as possible the max lenght for Hero/Legendary to 8000 characters.

BBCode Sig designers will have more space for their designs. And Hero members will gain some extra ++ from beign a Hero member :)

Please consider my request and aprove it.

Thanks.

Best regards.

I think the signature limit of hero's is about right, if you want to differentiate between Hero's and Sr member, then may want to consider reducing the Sr member. I don't think either is necessary. 

Hey,

I respect your opinion.

But for me - as for a sig designer 4000 is not always enough.

I was really happy when Theymos increased from 2000 to 4k. (thanks a lot Theymos)

I am pretty sure that increasing for Hero/Legendary to 8000 characters will be a change to a better.

Signatures for Hero and Legendary allow to use stylings, glowings etc. In 4000 chars sig designers are always finding hard to make it fit :)
Changing it to 8k or 6k will help designers to make better signatures. That's what is all about for me.



Best wishesh.

With the new forum software (hopefully) almost ready, I think that this will .... be put on "hold".

But it wont change "the size" of the signature...

It will just open a way for sig designers to make those signatures much nicer - more accurate.

Size will be the same...

Height 42px and width the same.


What do you mean by "put on hold"? So far as I know signatures are going to stay.

If this is a change .. a little deeper than just a config value, I guess that nobody will search and change.
Instead, you may have to make another such request for the new interface, when that will be ready.

Sig space is okay Hero and lower. I think, for Legendary, supporting images(same size as signature) in the link would be good.

   -MZ

Images in signatures is disallowed for a reason, it becomes a mess and an annoyance to look at. The forum used to allow images in signatures but, removed the ability to put a new image in your signature in 2011/early 2012.  

I believe, if users had a image prior to it being disabled, they may still have them in their signatures. That was the case then, I'm not sure if this has been changed or moderated since. If you want a image in your signature, have a direct link to the image. That way people can decide whether they want to look at it or not.

I know the majority of the users on this forum probably disagree and would like to have images, but it doesn't add much of a benefit of having them.

That's a lot of space, I don't want to be forced to hide signatures as I do like to look at some personal projects and such. But, having something as big as 8000 would be obstructive.

8000 characters? Do you want to write a novel?

agreed, 8000 characters is way too much for this type of thing.

What about 5000 for Hero?

I understand but wouldn't it not be a bad idea if it has size restrictions and also I would like to see something like this(for every links or atleast hyperlinks/embedded-links):

http://i.gyazo.com/f63a4ecd1d80b967a7c9c935e9f2f57d.png (http://i.gyazo.com/f63a4ecd1d80b967a7c9c935e9f2f57d.png)

   -MZ

Its surprising how little 4000 characters actually is. I was the one who asked Theymos to increase 2k limit as I was hitting the cap with plenty of real estate left in the actual sig space, even at 1280px wide.

No. Not a novel.

But a pixelated logos etc.

And 4000 chars is not enough for that I am telling you for sure :)

6000 would be awesome too. But 8000 will be just perfect and no one will ever need more ;) I am pretty sure about that.

The 'official' limits on signatures says that member accounts and up have 'unlimited' signature length. I guess 4k characters is considered 'unlimited' and realistically you probably do not need that much in most cases

Have any of you requesting such bandwith-sucker improvements ever tried to having to connect to forum with a mobile network? I will not pay an hefty increased mobile bill due to the increase data traffic your increased signature or signature with images bring with them to everyone having the misfortune to read a thread where you have posted something.
Such ideas of ever more lengthy signature and signature with images should be banned for good from bitcointalk community!


+1. Also, IF someone want to catch others attention he need to be brief. IF synthesis is so valued is because long texts are time-consuming and annoying.

Sorry, I didn't thought about bandwidth.
 

It is useful and it doesn't need high bandwidth. :)


   -MZ

OP want to have signature length doubled to be able to put pixelated logos in them, soon after you make a proposal to have images added too. All graphics take a toll on data traffic; but, most importantly, here on bitcointalk ,we don't care to the shiny signature, we look for the post content! It's nice to have a signature, it's nice to have the possibility to rent it to a signature campaign but we should not allow a mine is bigger than yours mindset to overcome the whole forum.

Check dogie's signature for instance, we can make it a bit attractive and add more contents which would help the forum but yes, more than helping sig-ads are used.

   -MZ

Dogie's signature is a brilliant example of synthesis since he used URL shortners to put the content he want to advertise without annoying others. Dogie's allow people to reach swiftly it's guides (the needed content). OP wishing to put pixelated logos is only a waste of resources.

I don't think it is a primary request, but it is only my personal opinion. However 8'000 characters are too much, what do you think of 6'000 ?  Yes, why not 6k for Hero and 8k for Legendary?

I don't see a real reason for this. There is absolutely nothing that must be placed in the signature and that can't fit within the current limit.

Maybe you had a great idea, like double signature campaigns?..

Signature campaign usually are not allowing competitor signature ads displayed alongside their own ads.

may i ask why you'd even want this ?

I think because roslinpl is also a "bb_code designer" and the limit of 4k character  it is bad for him and he can't "make his signatures".

To make the signature better and to add more contents.

   -MZ

One would think that after being here for so long, that I would know this. Obviously this opens up space for new things.

Imagine a page on a thread where everyone has a maxed out signature. That seems rather very nice (even though one could disable them).

Yeah. My sig is 2300 characters and its literally just text with links in it. This type of code just isn't that character efficient and its something we have to work around regardless of if its for flashy reasons or just sensible practicality.

Are you sure?
I know from my experience that it is better to be careful when you say "nothing, everything, always, never :) "

For example. Hero Design which I made for Ocupy.net campaign. It was really hard to make it fit into forum's 4000 limit.
(You can see this design here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=959155.msg10493284#msg10493284, it's at the top of the OP)

BTW. there was also a bug spotted by me. When you paste into "Profile Information" a code, there might be written "xxx chars remainging".
But when you press save it suddenly have to cut it, because it was too long. But like I say, when you paste the code it seems like everything is OK, you get info about positive number of remaining characters.

If I would have a limit for that signature design of 8000 chars I would have much more space with possibilities and I would be able to improve it even more than it is now.

So that's why I am asking about increasing that limit to 8000 chars for Hero and Legendary members.

Best regards.

That's usually its inability to count 'special characters' which includes line breaks and other similar things.

Current ad spaces are enough as they are today, no need to change them, if u want a more fair difference between member groups, then lower members space should be reduced.
There is no point in maximising things up, it would just make people remove ads from showing. (even more)

cheers

So what was the point in changing max. chars to 4000 from 2000 in your opinion.
Second thing is this is not "an ad space" this is Signature. Ad Space is something different on Bitcointalk.


Thanks for your opinion.

Best regards.

Yet we use them in Signature campaigns which advertise certain sites/services. Meaning that members have been often using it as Ad space.

look,and im just giving my opinion here; when im scrolling through all the threads, the content of members signature spaces doent anoy me, i mean its ok for people to sell out that space, or to advertise/put something of their own, but if the space was any larger, i personaly would find that anoying and unnecesary, which leads me to second part of your question;
i didnt intend to define what an ad space on bitcoin forum is, but to point out that both can be removed if users find them anoying, with disabling ads, or with just ignoring bunch of users.

op wanted increased lenght  for hero/legendary member signatures, and i think it would be bad, so if theres some unjustice comparing allowed lenghts for different membership accounts, then the lenght should be "more fairly distributed", but definetly not furthermore increased from its current maximum.

just my opinion in the end, if its not shared with most users, it wont be even considered in the end.

cheers

It would be hilarous if to download an 80 character one-liner junk post you would also now need to download and pay for an additional 8000 characters of junk signature ad campaign data. The actual text content of many posts are under current 4000 character signature space limit, which is like equal to 30 lines of plain text on a typical screen.

You can hide signatures if you don't want to see them. Go to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=profile;sa=theme, if you want to hide.

   -MZ

Yes, I already do that on my mobile account when I am roaming on 3G. On 4G it is not a problem for me because the site loads pretty fast and I don't hit my data cap. It would be nice if there was a setting to hide low quality posts.

It can't be done. If you mean "one line" by "low quality posts", then bear in mind, even posts with one line can be constructive and qualitative.

   -MZ