Bitcoin Forum

Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: Finance_BitcoinGroup on February 24, 2015, 06:53:14 AM



Title: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: Finance_BitcoinGroup on February 24, 2015, 06:53:14 AM
Graph Here - https://i.imgur.com/7JSMPwp.png (https://i.imgur.com/7JSMPwp.png)

The past week has seen a fairly consistent range between the $232 and $248 levels, with movements breaking past the $243 level but failing to stay above it. The price can only stay within such a range for so long, especially since Bitcoin has not been the most historically stable. With no strong rally in the past week, the likelihood of the price staying above the $232 is weakening.

It is definitely surprising for the price to have been supported by the $232 level for as long as it has, given the amount of rebounds that have occurred. Currently we are seeing yet another bounce, this time off the $240 level and 200 hour moving average, this does not exactly indicate a bearish move in the very short term but it does represent a degree of upside weakness in the correction of the past 24 hours.

What we are seeing in the market is not a definite signal of a price drop, only a very strong probability of the long term bearish trend continuing. Further bullish movements are possible, however unless we see a strong and consistent break of at least the $243 level, the likelihood of such a scenario is minimal. What we are seeing is a type of market condition that favours the bears and the next main price target is towards the $222 level

(Feel free to also check out this analysis of yesterday’s price drop, it contains some broader perspective on the past week’s movements - https://www.tradingview.com/v/RMLjnTLj/ (https://www.tradingview.com/v/RMLjnTLj/))


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: stonerider on February 24, 2015, 04:18:34 PM
I think you're completely off your rocker. From here, it's straight to the moon!


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: ajareselde on February 24, 2015, 05:44:01 PM
I think you're completely off your rocker. From here, it's straight to the moon!

Doubt we will go higher currently, maybe 250$ max before another dump, and im positive that we will retest 200$ soon enough.
I am waiting for such a drop, if it doesnt happen, i will loose advantage tho, but its all risk with bitcoin, and u are rarely correct short/mid term.

cheers


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: WeGotCactus on February 24, 2015, 11:34:41 PM
Graph Here - https://i.imgur.com/7JSMPwp.png (https://i.imgur.com/7JSMPwp.png)

The past week has seen a fairly consistent range between the $232 and $248 levels, with movements breaking past the $243 level but failing to stay above it. The price can only stay within such a range for so long, especially since Bitcoin has not been the most historically stable. With no strong rally in the past week, the likelihood of the price staying above the $232 is weakening.

It is definitely surprising for the price to have been supported by the $232 level for as long as it has, given the amount of rebounds that have occurred. Currently we are seeing yet another bounce, this time off the $240 level and 200 hour moving average, this does not exactly indicate a bearish move in the very short term but it does represent a degree of upside weakness in the correction of the past 24 hours.

What we are seeing in the market is not a definite signal of a price drop, only a very strong probability of the long term bearish trend continuing. Further bullish movements are possible, however unless we see a strong and consistent break of at least the $243 level, the likelihood of such a scenario is minimal. What we are seeing is a type of market condition that favours the bears and the next main price target is towards the $222 level

(Feel free to also check out this analysis of yesterday’s price drop, it contains some broader perspective on the past week’s movements - https://www.tradingview.com/v/RMLjnTLj/ (https://www.tradingview.com/v/RMLjnTLj/))
Poor analysis. I'm not saying you're outcome is right or wrong, but seems like you could say the exact same arguments to say the opposite thing.

"The past week has seen a fairly consistent range between the $232 and $248 levels, with movements breaking below the $235 level but failing to stay below it. The price can only stay within such a range for so long, especially since Bitcoin has not been the most historically stable. With no strong selloff in the past week, the likelihood of the price staying below $243 is weakening.

It is definitely surprising for the price to have been resisted by the $248 level for as long as it has, given the amount of rebounds that have occurred. Currently we are seeing another bounce, this time off the $236 level and 30 hour moving average, this does not exactly indicate a bullish move in the very short term but it does represent a degree of downside weakness in the movement of the past 24 hours."

My point - we're consolidating. Your post has no insights as to why we'll go up or down from here.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: bassclef on February 24, 2015, 11:43:57 PM
I think we would have rallied past $300 if the Bter news hadn't happened. It was a strong rally with lots of volume and not much selling.

Because of Bter there are additional sellers trading the market, many of whom are stuck in bad positions near $230 and hoping to get out. Just a waiting game at this point.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: Morecoin Freeman on February 24, 2015, 11:47:31 PM
Nice chart. :P


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: D05GTO on February 24, 2015, 11:48:00 PM
Think it's in a holding pattern waiting for the Fed coins to be auctioned.   No one wants to raise the price to let the feds get more in the auction.   In other words, there's a price suppression happening right now.



Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: oblivi on February 25, 2015, 02:11:03 AM
Bitstamp is showing a big buy wall at about 200 price range, im not sure people is going to sell that much amount of BTC for that low price.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: sniveling on February 25, 2015, 02:30:54 AM
Bitstamp is showing a big buy wall at about 200 price range, im not sure people is going to sell that much amount of BTC for that low price.

Bitstamp has become a really low volume exchange since the hack. This is the current pecking order - bitfinex, okcoin, coinbase, btce, bitstamp. A big buy wall on bitstamp is nothing on bitfinex. There is a bigger wall at 200 on bitfinex, but I have seen bigger ones eaten through in moments.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: randy8777 on February 25, 2015, 03:05:36 AM
Bitstamp is showing a big buy wall at about 200 price range, im not sure people is going to sell that much amount of BTC for that low price.

Bitstamp has become a really low volume exchange since the hack. This is the current pecking order - bitfinex, okcoin, coinbase, btce, bitstamp. A big buy wall on bitstamp is nothing on bitfinex. There is a bigger wall at 200 on bitfinex, but I have seen bigger ones eaten through in moments.

walls mean absolutelly nothing. if price gets near the larger buy orders they get pulled most of the times.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: pattu1 on February 25, 2015, 02:31:53 PM
Bitstamp is showing a big buy wall at about 200 price range, im not sure people is going to sell that much amount of BTC for that low price.

Bitstamp has become a really low volume exchange since the hack. This is the current pecking order - bitfinex, okcoin, coinbase, btce, bitstamp. A big buy wall on bitstamp is nothing on bitfinex. There is a bigger wall at 200 on bitfinex, but I have seen bigger ones eaten through in moments.

walls mean absolutelly nothing. if price gets near the larger buy orders they get pulled most of the times.


These huge orders are put in place just to mislead the market.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: spazzdla on February 25, 2015, 02:57:12 PM
I sure do hope so.. I'd like own +10 btc.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: rosh on February 25, 2015, 03:38:09 PM
Any drop below $200 will attract a wave of buyers.  ;D


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: LewiesMan on February 25, 2015, 03:39:42 PM
Any drop below $200 will attract a wave of buyers.  ;D

And a wave of panic sellers.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: Beliathon on February 25, 2015, 03:44:43 PM
Graph Here - https://i.imgur.com/7JSMPwp.png (https://i.imgur.com/7JSMPwp.png)
Oh good, more pseudo-sciencey graphs. Just what the internet needed.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: SimplisticStu on February 25, 2015, 03:48:12 PM
Any drop below $200 will attract a wave of buyers.  ;D

And a wave of panic sellers.

I agree with both but if it does test the $200 level again I shall be buying and holding waiting for the rise.

waiting, waiting, waiting  ;D


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: dothebeats on February 25, 2015, 07:15:34 PM
I think you're completely off your rocker. From here, it's straight to the moon!

Nah. Not with the current market conditions.

I'm still expecting a price drop to at least in the $220 range. If that happens, I'll buy some coins for myself. I still consider that range quite a loss though, but my view is two-sided at this moment. Hoping that it will break resistance and see some coins beyond the $240 mark and at the same time, hoping to buy some $220 priced coins.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: ajareselde on February 25, 2015, 07:48:16 PM
Any drop below $200 will attract a wave of buyers.  ;D

And a wave of panic sellers.

I agree with both but if it does test the $200 level again I shall be buying and holding waiting for the rise.

waiting, waiting, waiting  ;D

im waiting for buying opportunity @200 also, but recent press is giving me a hard time waiting, even tho im pretty sure we will dive to ~200 before going up, shaking weak hands off.
if the price would dive tonight, what would the traders mind be thinking ? it definetly wouldnt be selling 12% or so under recent price, i bet everyone would bite that cake.
ill wait and see, and hope not to get left behind

cheers


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: ndnh on February 25, 2015, 08:12:27 PM
I think you're completely off your rocker. From here, it's straight to the moon!

Yeah, it got to go to the moon this time. :)

Market manipulators and whales must be tired of making 1 sided bets. :P


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: bassclef on February 25, 2015, 10:24:09 PM
I think you're completely off your rocker. From here, it's straight to the moon!

Nah. Not with the current market conditions.

I'm still expecting a price drop to at least in the $220 range. If that happens, I'll buy some coins for myself. I still consider that range quite a loss though, but my view is two-sided at this moment. Hoping that it will break resistance and see some coins beyond the $240 mark and at the same time, hoping to buy some $220 priced coins.

A $20 difference in price isn't really that much if you are long-term bullish, but wait it out if you want. This last consolidation period has been defined by rising bottoms, which is bullish, so keep that in mind.

To put it in perspective, I used to stress about $60 vs $80 coins. Turns out it doesn't matter too much now.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: HarmonLi on February 26, 2015, 12:00:31 AM
People have been predicting this for weeks now. Thing is: All the panic-attempts seem to fail. The price is more resilient than ever and more and more indicators are turning green these days. Bears seem to be evaluating whether it is still safe to short.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: waterpile on February 26, 2015, 12:17:34 AM
Any drop below $200 will attract a wave of buyers.  ;D

And a wave of panic sellers.

wouldn't that balances it out :P

People have been predicting this for weeks now. Thing is: All the panic-attempts seem to fail. The price is more resilient than ever and more and more indicators are turning green these days. Bears seem to be evaluating whether it is still safe to short.

same old pattern, stable for sometime and another dump will come unless if there is a breaking news to pump the price again to $250+


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: randy8777 on February 26, 2015, 01:46:30 AM
no one knows what the price will do. unless some large traders buy or dump quite a few coins the price will remain like it is now.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: PenguinFire on February 26, 2015, 01:49:42 AM
I think it will get to 220 or below before it goes back up but that is just me.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: big ears on February 26, 2015, 11:38:18 AM
I think it will get to 220 or below before it goes back up but that is just me.

I have that feeling too. It's been a very low volume week and once the volume increases I guess it will be a dump, not a pump.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: Q7 on February 26, 2015, 12:43:16 PM
Bitcoin has so far been so unpredictable. Don't bet on it that it will be a confirmed drop. Sometimes when you thought the market was sleeping, a sudden huge buy order will be coming in and cause the price to go up. We have seen that couple of times and I'm sure there's every chance that it will happen again.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: uki on February 26, 2015, 01:10:28 PM
People have been predicting this for weeks now. Thing is: All the panic-attempts seem to fail. The price is more resilient than ever and more and more indicators are turning green these days. Bears seem to be evaluating whether it is still safe to short.
Agree. I doubt any number of posts put here in this forum would have any impact on the price. Bitcoin community grew much larger and there is a lot of money in Bitcoin not even knowing about existence of this forum.


Title: Re: Market ripe for a price drop
Post by: bitwarrior on February 26, 2015, 01:17:57 PM
Think it's in a holding pattern waiting for the Fed coins to be auctioned.   No one wants to raise the price to let the feds get more in the auction.   In other words, there's a price suppression happening right now.



I tend to agree with your analysis of there is a price suppression due to the impending BTC auction. Well let us hope and see and hopefully BTC will break out and move up to the $300 range soon enough.