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I came across a website called bitcrane . Has anyone dealt with them ? Im really debating on whether or not to get one . They dont seem to know what power efficiency is .

You should check for a Bitmain S5, a SP20 or a Avalon 4.1  ;)

One man called dogie has.  ;)

http://www.dogiecoin.com/bitcrane-t-110.html (http://www.dogiecoin.com/bitcrane-t-110.html)

But really, why do you want to get Bitcrane?.. Some day soon there will be (should be) released new miner by Bitmain, wait for it... It definetely will be twice more efficient...

Go with  Bitmain Antminer S5 (https://bitmaintech.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201412231604153619o9X1obn0693) or Spondoolies Tech Yukon SP31 (http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp31-yukon-shipping-from-stock).

Avoid Bitcrane as they are unlikely to have more products out and they use hard to get chips from a scammy company and Avalon has caused millions of dollars in losses to the community so avoid them just because it is the right thing to do.

Here is the review by dogie https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=731655

I'm wondering how many people else will post here a link to review by dogie?..  :-\

Just those that support Technobit / Dogie I guess.

I know you hate Technobit so much.
But as long as there are peoples need my help, i will help them. That included technobit.
If you check my post, you can see which company i support now. I support almost all of them.

Thanks . WHile talking to them they didnt seem to know what they where talking about . While talking to bitmaintech they said they werent going to update the s4 .

One *dog called dogie



That's based on something other than thin air right?


Also known as helping to increase the value of the estate in order to reduce the damage done to consumers of said company?


Then its a good job Canaan Creative aren't Avalon. Its as silly as me blaming you for Technobit's problems, they're just not the same thing.

Is not a good buy but the company is legit and they did in my opinion the best miner based on the HashFast chips, a nice unit for a museum.

Regards

Juan

They are outstanding looking miners and appear to be very well designed.  But they were terribly late to market and their time has passed.  Efficiency, foot print, speed, cost have all improved significantly.  They were old when they were first rolled out.
There 7 Th/s miner is a monster.  I don't think they consulted any large scale miners when they designed that.

You support Technobit. Not their customers.

You should be warning people OFF them not promoting them and hoping for Marto to pump out more crap and late products.

Be honest Technobit is a mess and people should avoid them.

Let us be clear. Avalon or whatever you call them now are the same people that caused millions in losses to this community. No matter how DOGIE wants to play it you would be advised to avoid anything from that company in solidarity for those that lost a lot of money on their bullshit and they never ever compensated anyone for that nor did they apologize.

There is little left in consumer based mining and thankfully that means people who continue to prop up companies that have scammed and are scamming will have little to support as things move forward. End of era but clearly you need to avoid Avalon 4.1 and Technobit as well as Bitcrane.

I will let you handle the warning jobs.
I am a customer support after all.

 Support isn't support when you're ignoring fraud. Dogie knows all about that.

Enjoy helping people you could have saved the hassle of buying from TECHNOBIT with a simple warning. Did you invest in his latest scam or is supporting it by expressing how you are anticipating a 25,000 scam on BTCjam also part of your altruistic support?

Somehow the same people are _always_ on the same side of the fence when issues occur. It must be magnetism .. can't explain it otherwise.

If you have any little doubt that the manufacturer is shady in sales/support/technical or any other thing you dream on .. better avoid giving them your money.
Unless you like charity, having too much of them ..  or circus, watching the replies here.

The people here is not kid anymore. Judge the manufacturer / seller by yourself. Read the forum before buying. Ask in forum. Run ROI calculation.
Bitcoin is adult thing, not for kid.




Agree  :)

*sigh*, what is it now?

10/10 on ethics right Dogie...
10/10 on time shipping right Dogie...

Ethically I think both Zich and Dogie are compromised.Neither side with the consumers on issues like this and that is telling. Oh so it is buyer beware and you can continue to promote a company completely caught red handed lying to people. Well Technobit is clearly predatory and has been for years. Simply no excuses at this point to support anything they are doing given the level of fraud.

Suffice to say that no one really should recommend Bitcrane or Avalon 4.1 simply on price / efficiency points as other have.

Choose reputable suppliers and producers.

1. Spondoolies or Bitmain
2. PCFli thread for Bitmain

These are good choices.

Others might land you in serious trouble or just not ethically the right choice.

I wasnt going to use it to mine strictly for myself . I was going to rent it out and when its not rented mining on my eobot account .  just wondering if it was worth the buy . its very quite i was told .   

No. Too inefficient.

I am a Bitcrane official dealer and they continue to do quite well on NewEgg for the T110 and T110S despite there being much more efficient and profitable miners out there. I think they have practically given up on advertising here since the miners who are on here are mostly concerned on ROI and that's fair enough.

BitCrane knows it's miners are not profitable and for anyone to hope to make money on this I can say dream on. But the hardware itself is well made, it's very pretty and is very easy to setup. I have however not had experience with the T-720 which to me, although gorgeous, seems way too power hungry for me to keep it running for fun.

The T110/T110s is more for the hobbyist miner rather than for anything else who are hashing not for money.

In general I think at the current BitCoin price level, almost all miners are unprofitable unless you have a source of free electricity. If you want something that is well made and is directed at consumers and just want to get into SHA256 mining for the heck of it, I would still recommend this miner since it's so much better looking than any other miner out there and I have no problems having it in my home. You pay the price of course but I think it's very strange to call into question their integrity just because they're small. Even the often quoted Spondoolies they're not cheap and probably wouldn't break even either at single unit prices.

I have had sold several miners of theirs and own 3 T110/T110s on my own (just cause I think they're cool pieces of BitCoin tech) which continue to hash today.

This was the video I made of a T110 in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCaC9v_XyUw

They are a boutique company with a different focus and emphasis and I do hope they continue to do well and come up with new products. They do have plans to have more cost efficient miners but I doubt they will ever reach the levels of BitMain though I'm not sure that's what they hope to be.

Someone asked me on the noise level of the T110S

http://youtu.be/8BJnbgellWc

Ambient about 26 C.

May be slightly quieter if ambient is lower.

i wonder if it would be to difficult to switch out the power supply to make it more energy efficient

I'm no EE but I believe the issue is the asic chips.  Changing a PSU is not going to give you much if any improvement. The chips are 1-2 generations old. So far the only way I've seen of dealing with old asics is to underclock them.