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Title: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on February 25, 2015, 09:31:27 AM
What if the Mt.gox and other exchange hacks, butterfly labs and other miner scams ,

Silkroad and other darknet markets,

altcoins and other crypto 2.0 pre mine scams are all somehow sponsored and done by the NSA, FBI and CIA..

They do this because they want to bring  bad name to bitcoin so that public will favor regulation...

Which means the crypto land is full of honest people but for NSA guys manipulating!

Karples, Alex green could be CIA agents,

The strong hands that claimed to keep paycoin above 20$ could be NSA.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: NeuroticFish on February 25, 2015, 09:37:37 AM
They have better things to do.
They don't care about bitcoin that much to see it as a threat (yet?).
They don't have enough funds to do this.
It wold be illegal (use people's money .. for what?!) and they may face the consequences, so they don't do this.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: maku on February 25, 2015, 09:41:18 AM
Mark Karpeles as CIA agent? Dude who before MtGox was selling Magic the Gathering cards online? It is hard to believe in this conspiracy theory. People are just crooked, they do not need government permission if they want to steal money they would do it on their own.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: Blazr on February 25, 2015, 09:45:44 AM
Mark Karpeles as CIA agent? Dude who before MtGox was selling Magic the Gathering cards online? It is hard to believe in this conspiracy theory. People are just crooked, they do not need government permission if they want to steal money they would do it on their own.

Mark Karpeles didn't sell magic the gathering cards.

He bought MtGox off of Jed McCaleb (of Ripple Labs) who originally registered mtgox.com, it used to have something to do with Magic The Gathering, but the domain had been unused for many years and in 2010 Jed used the domain for a Bitcoin exchange and sold it to Mark Karpeles a few months later.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: Kazimir on February 25, 2015, 10:01:58 AM
It doesn't matter whether they were hacked by NSA, KGB, Chinese government, or other malicious scum. We need decentralized P2P exchanges either way.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: Q7 on February 25, 2015, 11:00:16 AM
Another round of conspiracy theory. I think most likely it is the work of some greedy individuals looking to make easy money rather than a big organization that intends to bring down bitcoin. I mean with every available resource, it will be more effective to just hack the network. giving bitcoin bad reputation will not effective bring down the network as there are bound to be die hard supporters around. Furthermore it also takes time.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: networthsigns on February 25, 2015, 03:55:35 PM
NSA don't have time for this , like really  ::)


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on February 25, 2015, 04:17:09 PM
NSA doesn't need to hack exchanges, exchanges "hack themselves" already if you know what I mean.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: Blinken on February 25, 2015, 04:48:56 PM
When I first saw this post I thought it said, "What if Mt Gox was hacked by NASA?"

That had me falling off my chair laughing.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: croato on February 25, 2015, 04:57:27 PM
NSA is too bussy spying on all world goverments and all of us internet users so i dont think they have time to screw with Bitcoin lol.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: RodeoX on February 25, 2015, 05:00:29 PM
Oh oh I got one! Then what if the Aliens hacked the NSA!!! Mother F#<%*!!!!  :o


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: cellard on February 25, 2015, 05:05:54 PM
Oh oh I got one! Then what if the Aliens hacked the NSA!!! Mother F#<%*!!!!  :o
Im sure the NSA is now advanced enough to hack the Aliens..


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: RodeoX on February 25, 2015, 05:07:49 PM
Oh oh I got one! Then what if the Aliens hacked the NSA!!! Mother F#<%*!!!!  :o
Im sure the NSA is now advanced enough to hack the Aliens..
Good point. I guess it's just China that we have to worry about.  :D


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: dothebeats on February 25, 2015, 05:09:17 PM
NSA? Bitcoins? Don't get me wrong here man but I think it isn't likely to happen at all. Like, what is NSA going to do if they could just spy on other things and then "hack" them or make business with them rather than focusing on exchanges that will certainly do them a little.

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Oh oh I got one! Then what if the Aliens hacked the NSA!!! Mother F#<%*!!!!  Shocked

Seems legit.  ;D


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: Madness on February 25, 2015, 05:39:26 PM
They really have better things to do . like ... NSA ? really ?
They can target us directly if they wants to (Bitcoin users) and take every single Bitcoin we have if they want and you . I read on an article that it takes 6 seconds or something so NSA can take control of our PC

~ Madness


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on February 25, 2015, 05:45:07 PM
They really have better things to do . like ... NSA ? really ?
They can target us directly if they wants to (Bitcoin users) and take every single Bitcoin we have if they want and you . I read on an article that it takes 6 seconds or something so NSA can take control of our PC

~ Madness

even if we have the latest windows update and virus definitions updated?


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: Madness on February 25, 2015, 05:53:27 PM
They really have better things to do . like ... NSA ? really ?
They can target us directly if they wants to (Bitcoin users) and take every single Bitcoin we have if they want and you . I read on an article that it takes 6 seconds or something so NSA can take control of our PC

~ Madness

even if we have the latest windows update and virus definitions updated?

Well of course , that's the issue mate you are using Windows and Windows is not trusted .
NSA have agents everywhere (including in Microsoft) who make Backdoors on Windows ... and of course windows is a closed-source software.
That's why some people who care about there privacy use Linux . or big programmers and coders simply write linux from Scratch instead of using Ubuntu or some other famous linux softwares .

~ Madness


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: dothebeats on February 25, 2015, 06:08:32 PM
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I read on an article that it takes 6 seconds or something so NSA can take control of our PC

If you're kind enough, can you kindly direct me to the article that you're talking about? I know bitcoin is comprise of the top coders and programmers but dude, 6 seconds to take your bitcoins greatly contradicts the security aspect of bitcoin.

How does one dude control your pc (or take away all of your bitcoins) in 6 seconds? ???


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: koelen3 on February 25, 2015, 06:15:29 PM
It doesn't matter whether they were hacked by NSA, KGB, Chinese government, or other malicious scum. We need decentralized P2P exchanges either way.

This really sounds awesome but is too hard to implement


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: dothebeats on February 25, 2015, 06:43:09 PM
It doesn't matter whether they were hacked by NSA, KGB, Chinese government, or other malicious scum. We need decentralized P2P exchanges either way.

This really sounds awesome but is too hard to implement


Easy to read but very difficult to implement. An exchange can say that they are decentralized, but it can't just happen. There should be some regulations made within an exchange and surely, a central authority should control it in order to make the regulations within the exchange happen. The markets are a free entity in the economy, but the exchanges aren't.


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: Madness on February 25, 2015, 06:47:12 PM
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I read on an article that it takes 6 seconds or something so NSA can take control of our PC

If you're kind enough, can you kindly direct me to the article that you're talking about? I know bitcoin is comprise of the top coders and programmers but dude, 6 seconds to take your bitcoins greatly contradicts the security aspect of bitcoin.

How does one dude control your pc (or take away all of your bitcoins) in 6 seconds? ???

I'am really not kidding , It's 8 seconds sorry for the mistake also here is the thread : http://www.01net.com/editorial/615864/huit-secondes-suffisent-a-la-nsa-pour-infecter-votre-ordinateur/

It's in french tho . you should translate it . Basically the title says "8 seconds are enough for the NSA to infect your PC" with their malware .

~ Madness


Title: Re: What if Mt.Gox and other exchanges are hacked by NSA?
Post by: koelen3 on February 25, 2015, 07:03:24 PM
It doesn't matter whether they were hacked by NSA, KGB, Chinese government, or other malicious scum. We need decentralized P2P exchanges either way.

This really sounds awesome but is too hard to implement


Easy to read but very difficult to implement. An exchange can say that they are decentralized, but it can't just happen. There should be some regulations made within an exchange and surely, a central authority should control it in order to make the regulations within the exchange happen. The markets are a free entity in the economy, but the exchanges aren't.

There have been many tried in the past , like darkwallet and all but i don't see a true Decentralized P2P exchange