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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: blackboxalpha on February 25, 2015, 07:55:38 PM



Title: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Listing @ Bitbond [Funded]
Post by: blackboxalpha on February 25, 2015, 07:55:38 PM
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Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan
Post by: jorjito25 on February 25, 2015, 08:10:16 PM
Are u asking for a loan?
O looking for investor?
I dont get what u are looking for...


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan
Post by: RodeoX on February 25, 2015, 08:13:53 PM
Are u asking for a loan?
O looking for investor?
I dont get what u are looking for...
I'm confused about that also.  ???


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan
Post by: Glucose on February 25, 2015, 08:15:40 PM
1 BTC 6 Week Loan @Bitbonds http://[Suspicious link removed]/17VL8KF

BlackBox Alpha is a quantitative asset management firm with diversified investments in forex, cryptocurrency, private lending, and equities. Managed by a highly capable executive team, we strive to offer the most professional, trustworthy and transparent investment option to Bitcoin investors.

Incorporated in California as Bevan-Chamberlain Capital Corporation on June 28, 2013, and registered doing business as BlackBox Alpha.

D&B D-U-N-SŪ Number: 062219268.

Total Assets: $5,392.01
Total Liabilities: -$500.41
Net Cash Flow: $154.75/mo (after all expenses).

Our liability is one BLC loan, and one BTCJam loan. All net cash flow is reinvested.

(Cryptocurrency portfolio as of February 24, 2015).

Relevant links:
http://www.blackboxalpha.com
http://www.linkedin.com/in/jabevan
https://btcjam.com/users/36055

Really unclear.. Can't even understand what you are looking for ? Loan ? investment ? Looks scammy anyway.


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan
Post by: jorjito25 on February 25, 2015, 09:22:32 PM
I apologize, I didn't realize Bitcointalk removed [Suspicious link removed] links.

This is a notice that I have listed a loan (asking for, Loan ID 20P4MP41YR) on Bitbond: https://www.bitbond.com/buyer/listings/20P4MP41YR

So... U earn 5k monthly and u asking for 240?
If is like this y here is something wrong.
U will need a collateral to get ur loan.


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: jorjito25 on February 25, 2015, 09:33:39 PM
Good luck to u then!
Im only telling u in advance that nobody will lend u a penny without a valid collateral.
Thats all.
Regards!


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: tmfp on February 25, 2015, 09:46:32 PM
I am a newbie to Bitcointalk and understand that it takes some time to build a reputation.  This Bitbond loan is my fourth BTC P2P loan.

Well, you managed to build one quite quickly by not reading the golden rule: newbie - collateral=negative trust.

Are you offering 11.15% p.a. for a six week loan?
Because you're wasting your time here if you are....


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: tmfp on February 25, 2015, 10:06:53 PM
Generally collateral is only regarded as such if it is in the control or possession of the lender, usually another currency.


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: jorjito25 on February 25, 2015, 10:08:00 PM
Quick question: the reason I post total assets (Total Assets: $5,392.01) it to prove the loans are backed.  If this is not considered collateral, how do I offer collateral here - short of transferring assets?

Valid collateral is something that worth 120 % / 150 % of the loan and easy to sell in case of default.


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: waterpile on February 26, 2015, 01:53:25 AM
Ok, so the reported assets are mark-to-market as of yesterday, and are spread among more than 20 accounts in bankroll investments, cloud mining, and and loans at BTCJam, BitLendingClub, and Bitbond.  Most immediately liquid.

Also have hardware miners and mining equipment for sale on eBay.  These are off balance sheet and not included in the assets above.

@tmfp said the collateral should be in control of or in possession of the lender.  Tell me more about how this works?  Transferring assets to escrow would require liquidating and at 100%+ of the loan amount there would be a negative return (no matter what the differential is between the APR and my returns).  So I'm curious about how this is normally done on Bitcointalk.

Thanks for you help, I appreciate your responses.

Most lenders don't trust a newbie and better provide a collateral to get some interest


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: Quickseller on March 25, 2015, 07:27:09 PM
I don't think bit-x actually has any public investors lol.

You forgot to look at the stickies in this section that say if you try to borrow money without collateral or significant trust you will likely get negative trust and a warning trade with caution tag.


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: Speedster1978 on March 25, 2015, 08:49:59 PM
Had no issues with him on BTC Jam. I'd invest in him again.


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: jonald_fyookball on March 26, 2015, 03:31:25 AM
a highly capable executive team that manages $154 a month.  awesome.


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: kepo07 on March 26, 2015, 12:20:08 PM
You will not get any loan from here without a valid collateral so its my advice either provide a valid collateral or goto btcjam or btclend .


Title: Re: [BitBond] 1 BTC 6 Week Loan Request
Post by: Vod on March 27, 2015, 05:29:20 AM
Again, was never asking for a loan, was simply posting a notice of a loan listing at Bitbond.  Second to that, I may be interested in opportunities here in the forums, I have plenty of collateral, I just don't have an understanding of how collaterals and loans typically work here.  No one seems to want to share advice or information on how that works.  I would like to know if someone is willing to share.

My only concern, and the only issue I've contested, is the unfairness of receiving negative trust ratings for posting a link to a loan listing - again, was not asking for a loan.  What's even worse is that I have more positive trust ratings than negative trust ratings from legitimate customers I've sold miners to, and to investors who have lent money on or viols loans.  For some reason the positive ratings aren't counted, only the negative ratings from those who flamed me for posting this message.  I think it sucks, but believe that eventually honesty and personal integrity will win out.

Anyway, I mean no offense to anyone, I'm just a little bit angry at how this post has played out.  Hopefully that's understandable.

You WERE asking for a loan - at Bitbond.  And you were advertising it here.  No matter how you word it.  :-\