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Title: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 27, 2015, 04:46:53 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search

I stumbled upon this fact by accident.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Quickseller on February 27, 2015, 04:52:06 AM
The forum has been having a problem of having a lot of bots creating new accounts for various purposes all related to spamming.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: MadZ on February 27, 2015, 04:52:51 AM
This has already been discussed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940491.0


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 27, 2015, 05:06:28 AM
This has already been discussed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940491.0

Thanks, bud, with apologies.

I'm lookin' at over 30K new nonactive members created since Jan. 23, 2015.

I say somebody is getting paid to hand-create these accounts, possibly at slave labor pricing.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 27, 2015, 05:09:38 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

WTF!!!!!!!!!

What kind of security breach is this??

And, WHY THE HELL HAS IT BEEN ALLOWED TO CONTINUE?


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Quickseller on February 27, 2015, 05:14:59 AM
This has already been discussed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940491.0

Thanks, bud, with apologies.

I'm lookin' at over 30K new nonactive members created since Jan. 23, 2015.

I say somebody is getting paid to hand-create these accounts, possibly at slave labor pricing.
Maybe amazon mechanical turk?


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: MadZ on February 27, 2015, 06:04:50 AM
This has already been discussed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940491.0

Thanks, bud, with apologies.

I'm lookin' at over 30K new nonactive members created since Jan. 23, 2015.

I say somebody is getting paid to hand-create these accounts, possibly at slave labor pricing.

I doubt these are being made manually, look at a sample profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=460897

Clearly a bot that doesn't understand the profile fields.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: TotalShift on February 27, 2015, 06:08:18 AM
This are seo bots, this bots is to create forum accounts and drop a link in the profile and signature field. This bots can create tens of thousands of forum accounts from thousands of forum per day.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 27, 2015, 06:19:55 AM
This are seo bots, this bots is to create forum accounts and drop a link in the profile and signature field. This bots can create tens of thousands of forum accounts from thousands of forum per day.

And the practice is allowed to continue, commencing since this forum's last shutdown, because...

Meanwhile, after a year (or more), a user is unable to upload or change their avatar due to a security risk that no other other forums seem to have issues with, in spite of the myriad brainiacs who embrace blockchain mechnology to help safeguard the internet which make up part of this forum's user base.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: b!z on February 27, 2015, 06:23:17 AM
This has already been discussed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940491.0

Thanks, bud, with apologies.

I'm lookin' at over 30K new nonactive members created since Jan. 23, 2015.

I say somebody is getting paid to hand-create these accounts, possibly at slave labor pricing.
Maybe amazon mechanical turk?

>what is automation?


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: TotalShift on February 27, 2015, 06:34:09 AM
This are seo bots, this bots is to create forum accounts and drop a link in the profile and signature field. This bots can create tens of thousands of forum accounts from thousands of forum per day.

And the practice is allowed to continue, commencing since this forum's last shutdown, because...

Meanwhile, after a year (or more), a user is unable to upload or change their avatar due to a security risk that no other other forums seem to have issues with, in spite of the myriad brainiacs who embrace blockchain mechnology to help safeguard the internet which make up part of this forum's user base.

This practice is hard to stop because the bots mimics real users. This bots are using different ips can solve captcha, verify email and even verify via sms. Some advance bots has learning feature which made them adopt to new changes made on the forum or other social websites.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: yenzae0215 on February 27, 2015, 06:45:36 AM
maybe enabling email verification in registration will avoid these kind of things


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: TotalShift on February 27, 2015, 06:50:39 AM
maybe enabling email verification in registration will avoid these kind of things

Nope, email verification will not stop this bots. This bots can create emails and verify the emails themselves. All forum bots has email verify feature.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: chennan on February 27, 2015, 06:54:13 AM
This has already been discussed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=940491.0

Thanks, bud, with apologies.

I'm lookin' at over 30K new nonactive members created since Jan. 23, 2015.

I say somebody is getting paid to hand-create these accounts, possibly at slave labor pricing.
Maybe amazon mechanical turk?

>what is automation?
using bot to create a account without intervention. These accounts are for some unaccepted purposes which should be prevented, such as for sale, advertisement, spamming etc.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 27, 2015, 10:05:39 AM
Most of the accounts are advertising websites. A captcha should be implemented IMHO. Recaptcha won't do anything, Solvemedia or Areyouahuman would be better.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: shorena on February 27, 2015, 10:07:37 AM
If they are only after the backlinks it could be changed that newbies are no longer allowed to add a link to their profile. They are currently not allowed to use a link in their signature. Maybe this can easily be implemented. It might take a while before those running the bots realize this though.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 27, 2015, 10:16:24 AM
If they are only after the backlinks it could be changed that newbies are no longer allowed to add a link to their profile. They are currently not allowed to use a link in their signature. Maybe this can easily be implemented. It might take a while before those running the bots realize this though.

IMHO captcha is better than blocking links in profile for newbies because they may start spamming specially in Gambling threads and in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: TotalShift on February 27, 2015, 11:47:54 AM
If they are only after the backlinks it could be changed that newbies are no longer allowed to add a link to their profile. They are currently not allowed to use a link in their signature. Maybe this can easily be implemented. It might take a while before those running the bots realize this though.

IMHO captcha is better than blocking links in profile for newbies because they may start spamming specially in Gambling threads and in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0.

   -MZ

No matter how good your captcha this bots will try to solve them and then if the bots failed to solve the captcha they will forward it to captcha solver websites that use real people to solve captchas like decaptcher.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: ibminer on February 27, 2015, 12:06:55 PM
If they are only after the backlinks it could be changed that newbies are no longer allowed to add a link to their profile. They are currently not allowed to use a link in their signature. Maybe this can easily be implemented. It might take a while before those running the bots realize this though.

IMHO captcha is better than blocking links in profile for newbies because they may start spamming specially in Gambling threads and in https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.0.

   -MZ

No matter how good your captcha this bots will try to solve them and then if the bots failed to solve the captcha they will forward it to captcha solver websites that use real people to solve captchas like decaptcher.

It sounds like it would slow down the process then?   There really isn't any reason to not try a *good* captcha-like code. Combine it with the capability to  block an IP address from registering for 2-3 hours after XX amount of times failing a captcha code. Yes, I know there are proxy servers and ways to change IPs but I think anything that can be done to keep the forum clean or even slow down the rate of it getting spammed is a good idea.


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 27, 2015, 12:13:46 PM
No matter how good your captcha this bots will try to solve them and then if the bots failed to solve the captcha they will forward it to captcha solver websites that use real people to solve captchas like decaptcher.

It sounds like it would slow down the process then?   There really isn't any reason to not try a *good* captcha-like code. Combine it with the capability to  block an IP address from registering for 2-3 hours after XX amount of times failing a captcha code. Yes, I know there are proxy servers and ways to change IPs but I think anything that can be done to keep the forum clean or even slow down the rate of it getting spammed is a good idea.

+1. Account signup from same IP must be blocked atleast for one day(24 hrs). "Something is better than nothing". And the other thing is, most of the Captcha solver is paid solvers, so it would decrease new signups by atleast 10-35%.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Looks like somebody(s) goin' through trouble of created 1000s new accounts here.
Post by: Gleb Gamow on February 27, 2015, 10:50:29 PM
Most of the accounts are advertising websites. A captcha should be implemented IMHO. Recaptcha won't do anything, Solvemedia or Areyouahuman would be better.

   -MZ

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=442394

This one went through the trouble of even creating a FB account on the same day: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Watch-Fifty-Shades-of-Grey-Online-HD/1378269625821182?sk=timeline

Search Members using "Solomo":

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=456981

http://s27.postimg.org/nxfj8iiwj/11_solomo.jpg