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Economy => Lending => Topic started by: gysca on February 27, 2015, 11:26:20 PM



Title: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on February 27, 2015, 11:26:20 PM
Hi all,

previous apologize for my bad english.

My name is Alit, this is my profile https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile

linkedin  = https://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?id=401007230&trk=nav_responsive_tab_profile

and here is my story
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=957526.0

I need a loan to buy fertilizer for my agricultural land, I need a loan of 0.5 BTC , i don't have collateral, only based on trust. You can see my real picture,real name, real address in the link above.

I will pay back within 1 month with interest at 5 % , so i will pay back 0.525 BTC. i will pay back using my salary as the staff at the Department of Agriculture Bali.

Thank you

Best regards
I Made Alit Arsadana

EDIT :

I will pay back within 1 month with interest at 10 % , so i will pay back 0.55 BTC. i will pay back using my salary as the staff at the Department of Agriculture Bali. ( this the maximum interest that i can offer )

I received small loans, which later in the accumulated number of total 0.5 BTC

Collateral  =  my account



Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Quickseller on February 27, 2015, 11:29:11 PM
I am not sure your reputation is worth .5 BTC. I would also say that 5% interest over a month is a little low when offering loans on here, but I guess it is a free market.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on February 27, 2015, 11:42:12 PM
I am not sure your reputation is worth .5 BTC. I would also say that 5% interest over a month is a little low when offering loans on here, but I guess it is a free market.

I only offer interest in accordance with my ability to pay.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Quickseller on February 27, 2015, 11:59:22 PM
I am not sure your reputation is worth .5 BTC. I would also say that 5% interest over a month is a little low when offering loans on here, but I guess it is a free market.

I only offer interest in accordance with my ability to pay.
That is fair enough, however I don't think the interest is enough to attract potential lenders


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: lihuajkl on February 28, 2015, 12:11:35 AM
I am not sure your reputation is worth .5 BTC. I would also say that 5% interest over a month is a little low when offering loans on here, but I guess it is a free market.

I only offer interest in accordance with my ability to pay.
That is fair enough, however I don't think the interest is enough to attract potential lenders
Quickseller is right. The amount you are asking for is large! At least you should offer 10% interest due to the high risk level. Sorry, no offend! It is just from the point of view of a normal loan issuer.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on February 28, 2015, 12:16:58 AM
I am not sure your reputation is worth .5 BTC. I would also say that 5% interest over a month is a little low when offering loans on here, but I guess it is a free market.

I only offer interest in accordance with my ability to pay.
That is fair enough, however I don't think the interest is enough to attract potential lenders
Quickseller is right. The amount you are asking for is large! At least you should offer 10% interest due to the high risk level. Sorry, no offend! It is just from the point of view of a normal loan issuer.

yeah, maybe Quickseller right, i follow the market, i edit the OP, thank you


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: qory on February 28, 2015, 12:18:44 AM
Seems sketchy for me, if the farm is really yours, you would get a loan easily from your friend or family. You could also get long term loan from local bank up to 8 btc.

if you have no interest anymore in crypto, then just sell your account, at least it'll give you a little capital for your farm.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on February 28, 2015, 12:37:01 AM
Seems sketchy for me, if the farm is really yours, you would get a loan easily from your friend or family. You could also get long term loan from local bank up to 8 btc.

if you have no interest anymore in crypto, then just sell your account, at least it'll give you a little capital for your farm.

sometimes, there's time, all the stalemate in real life, i'm not sell my account, too much history with this


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: qory on February 28, 2015, 12:59:30 AM
Sorry for my doubt, but I think the farm is not belong to you or you have already taken a loan from bank or similar entity with the farm as collateral.

if you can't get a loan in your real life for your farm, I can assume you have no chance to get loan here w/o collateral.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 28, 2015, 04:44:19 AM
I could probably lend you but you may have to give your account as collateral and prior to it, you will have to sign a message with an address from your old unedited post. I don't think your account is worth 0.5BTC but I won't have a total lose.

P.S. I give interest free loan.

Edit:

Please sign below message with 1En14HX9TEMAVmEJKSdLpDkUsnFmihE4QA:

Code:
Date: 28/02/2015, Friday. My account, gysca isn't hacked or sold.

If you don't know how to sign, see http://blog.anonymousads.com/2014/03/new-feature-sign-in-with-your-bitcoin.html?m=1. It's a bit outdated but you will understand.

Edit-2: The first trust feedback you sent is positive but I assume you forgot to make it negative. Try to fix it - you will have to delete and post again inorder to do it.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on February 28, 2015, 08:44:25 AM
I could probably lend you but you may have to give your account as collateral and prior to it, you will have to sign a message with an address from your old unedited post. I don't think your account is worth 0.5BTC but I won't have a total lose.

P.S. I give interest free loan.

Edit:

Please sign below message with 1En14HX9TEMAVmEJKSdLpDkUsnFmihE4QA:

Code:
Date: 28/02/2015, Friday. My account, gysca isn't hacked or sold.

If you don't know how to sign, see http://blog.anonymousads.com/2014/03/new-feature-sign-in-with-your-bitcoin.html?m=1. It's a bit outdated but you will understand.

Edit-2: The first trust feedback you sent is positive but I assume you forgot to make it negative. Try to fix it - you will have to delete and post again inorder to do it.

   -MZ

Hi,
thank you for trust me, ok i will use my account as collateral.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 28, 2015, 08:57:18 AM
Hi,
thank you for trust me, ok i will use my account as collateral.

Hi, please sign the above message with the address in above post. Then only, I will be willing to give you a loan.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on February 28, 2015, 10:11:14 AM
Hi,
thank you for trust me, ok i will use my account as collateral.

Hi, please sign the above message with the address in above post. Then only, I will be willing to give you a loan.

   -MZ

hi,
sorry, I give up, I forgot to save it where it wallet.dat address, with this, there may be nothing else that would give me a loan,
sorry for my bad english  :(


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on February 28, 2015, 10:14:12 AM
Sorry for my doubt, but I think the farm is not belong to you or you have already taken a loan from bank or similar entity with the farm as collateral.

if you can't get a loan in your real life for your farm, I can assume you have no chance to get loan here w/o collateral.

the farm is not belong to me, I am working on other people's land with the profit-sharing system.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 28, 2015, 10:19:27 AM
hi,
sorry, I give up, I forgot to save it where it wallet.dat address, with this, there may be nothing else that would give me a loan,
sorry for my bad english  :(

Suspicious. You wil need to sign the message I gave with an address from your unedited posted which is atleast older than 1 month.

P.S. If your post is edited but other person's post which has quote of your post and isn't edited is fine.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on February 28, 2015, 11:18:45 AM
hi,
sorry, I give up, I forgot to save it where it wallet.dat address, with this, there may be nothing else that would give me a loan,
sorry for my bad english  :(

Suspicious. You wil need to sign the message I gave with an address from your unedited posted which is atleast older than 1 month.

P.S. If your post is edited but other person's post which has quote of your post and isn't edited is fine.

   -MZ

 :) hi,

no need to suspicious buddy, this is my own btt account,

i have this address  :  137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY

i can sign that address, but that address is in my messages, i will give you my user and pass btt account, you can check in my message.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 28, 2015, 11:21:47 AM
:) hi,

no need to suspicious buddy, this is my own btt account,

i have this address  :  137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY

i can sign that address, but that address is in my messages, i will give you my user and pass btt account, you can check in my message.

Please don't PM me the same content you post here. I do look the thread. :)

How old is the message?

   -MZ


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 28, 2015, 11:41:17 AM
PM verified. Message sent on January 27, 2014.

@gysca: I logged out. Please sign message with 137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY. Message above.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on February 28, 2015, 11:49:28 AM
PM verified. Message sent on January 27, 2014.

@gysca: I logged out. Please sign message with 137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY. Message above.

   -MZ

i got this when sign message :

IO9PhF4SJetXlxM8/d9TUVJvtJ6s0JVHFQI1vcinLC4YofqRNc+RkfanoRzpU7PidAxe/zSQyHX4E0/1/8NExC0=

but my wallet still sync, 125 week to go  :o

http://i60.tinypic.com/15365op.jpg



Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on February 28, 2015, 01:16:10 PM
i got this when sign message :

IO9PhF4SJetXlxM8/d9TUVJvtJ6s0JVHFQI1vcinLC4YofqRNc+RkfanoRzpU7PidAxe/zSQyHX4E0/1/8NExC0=

but my wallet still sync, 125 week to go  :o

[img ]http://i60.tinypic.com/15365op.jpg[/img]

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Date: 28/02/2015, Friday. My account, gysca isn't hacked or sold.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY
IO9PhF4SJetXlxM8/d9TUVJvtJ6s0JVHFQI1vcinLC4YofqRNc+RkfanoRzpU7PidAxe/zSQyHX4E0/1/8NExC0=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Verified! Syncing isn't needed for signing, it is needed for getting latest blocks to get UTXOs as well as other transaction details.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: elasticband on February 28, 2015, 10:02:17 PM
PM verified. Message sent on January 27, 2014.

@gysca: I logged out. Please sign message with 137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY. Message above.

   -MZ

i got this when sign message :

IO9PhF4SJetXlxM8/d9TUVJvtJ6s0JVHFQI1vcinLC4YofqRNc+RkfanoRzpU7PidAxe/zSQyHX4E0/1/8NExC0=

but my wallet still sync, 125 week to go  :o




Use electrum wallet and you do not have to wait for it to sync with network


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 01, 2015, 06:07:04 AM
@OP: I received your message containing password but before I change password, I need a signed message saying you are giving this account as collateral to me. Please mention date, your username and my username.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on March 01, 2015, 06:33:24 AM
@OP: I received your message containing password but before I change password, I need a signed message saying you are giving this account as collateral to me. Please mention date, your username and my username.

   -MZ


signed this address 137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY


H3nV2sAQatAexNajzBn3TyBlEUyIZaexduTaN8kl/dXsNwcEXqSQosrgYUZPgII6Mhp4RGaqtPWg4Hh4txDFst4=

Date : 01/03/2015, Sunday. I giving my account ( username : gysca ) to Muhammed Zakir, as collateral for my loan of 0.5 BTC,and I will pay back no later than March 28, 2015, or earlier.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 01, 2015, 06:34:28 AM
What is the message you signed? Please post the message too. Can I lower the amount to 0.35?

   -MZ


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on March 01, 2015, 06:36:53 AM
What is the message you signed? Please post the message too. Can I lower the amount to 0.35?

   -MZ

ok, because i need to buy fertilizer, but i need to change the sign


signed  137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY

H7Fs2jXeH6OIuob7IAv/05plV82I4NHcWorv9SMMBoPLy//YwcsSvvmR2MXfwTwk756OBw2kf5MZxuv2DQjoL2g=

Date : 01/03/2015, Sunday. I giving my account ( username : gysca ) to Muhammed Zakir, as collateral for my loan of 0.35 BTC,and I will pay back no later than March 28, 2015, or earlier.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 01, 2015, 06:45:36 AM
ok, because i need to buy fertilizer, but i need to change the sign

I will send you 0.35BTC.

ok, because i need to buy fertilizer, but i need to change the sign

signed  137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY

H7Fs2jXeH6OIuob7IAv/05plV82I4NHcWorv9SMMBoPLy//YwcsSvvmR2MXfwTwk756OBw2kf5MZxuv2DQjoL2g=

Date : 01/03/2015, Sunday. I giving my account ( username : gysca ) to Muhammed Zakir, as collateral for my loan of 0.35 BTC,and I will pay back no later than March 28, 2015, or earlier.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Date : 01/03/2015, Sunday. I giving my account ( username : gysca ) to Muhammed Zakir, as collateral for my loan of 0.35 BTC,and I will pay back no later than March 28, 2015, or earlier.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY
H7Fs2jXeH6OIuob7IAv/05plV82I4NHcWorv9SMMBoPLy//YwcsSvvmR2MXfwTwk756OBw2kf5MZxuv2DQjoL2g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Message verified. Please send me password of the account.

   -MZ


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: gysca on March 01, 2015, 06:52:16 AM
ok, because i need to buy fertilizer, but i need to change the sign

I will send you 0.35BTC.

ok, because i need to buy fertilizer, but i need to change the sign

signed  137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY

H7Fs2jXeH6OIuob7IAv/05plV82I4NHcWorv9SMMBoPLy//YwcsSvvmR2MXfwTwk756OBw2kf5MZxuv2DQjoL2g=

Date : 01/03/2015, Sunday. I giving my account ( username : gysca ) to Muhammed Zakir, as collateral for my loan of 0.35 BTC,and I will pay back no later than March 28, 2015, or earlier.

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Date : 01/03/2015, Sunday. I giving my account ( username : gysca ) to Muhammed Zakir, as collateral for my loan of 0.35 BTC,and I will pay back no later than March 28, 2015, or earlier.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
137L893YXzaHJ2RKyJx4B9NWc1YsstGJbY
H7Fs2jXeH6OIuob7IAv/05plV82I4NHcWorv9SMMBoPLy//YwcsSvvmR2MXfwTwk756OBw2kf5MZxuv2DQjoL2g=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Message verified. Please send me password of the account.

   -MZ

PM sent, i logged out, thank you.


Title: Re: Need loan for my farmland
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 01, 2015, 08:34:41 AM
The account is now under my control. 0.35BTC sent. TX : TX : 4921b2ca1189116d93867765f66561455f06349896c8fe309a8c892beee3bb17 (https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/4921b2ca1189116d93867765f66561455f06349896c8fe309a8c892beee3bb17)

   -MZ