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Economy => Investor-based games => Topic started by: cheako911 on March 01, 2015, 03:42:19 AM



Title: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: cheako911 on March 01, 2015, 03:42:19 AM
I don't know of any Ponzi or Pyramid where some users have not lost big. :P

All investment schemes are shady deals, this thread is an attempt to provide you with another tool to help you make a better informed decision.

Here are the rules:
First rule is: There are no good schemes here, if the Ponzi is currently working and paying you out.  That's when you don't post here about it.
The second rule is: There are no good schemes here, if the Ponzi is currently working and paying you out.  That's when you don't post here about it.
3. Be prepared to prove your claims.  Users who are out because of Ponzi are like sheep crying shears.  This is the place to cry Woolf.
4. This post will not be updated or maintain a list of the frauds.  Search the thread for your Ponzi, if you find it start reconsidering.

Cheers and good luck.


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: PonZ on March 01, 2015, 03:57:28 AM
I don't know of any Ponzi or Pyramid where some users have not lost big. :P

All investment schemes are shady deals, this thread is an attempt to provide you with another tool to help you make a better informed decision.

Here are the rules:
1. There are no good schemes here, if the Ponzi is currently working and paying you out.  That's when you don't post here about it.
2. Be prepared to prove your claims.  Users who are out because of Ponzi are like sheep crying shears.  This is the place to cry Woolf.
3. This post will not be updated or maintain a list of the frauds.  Search the thread for your Ponzi, if you find it start reconsidering.

Cheers and good luck.
I don't know of any Ponzi or Pyramid where some users have not lost big. :P

All investment schemes are shady deals, this thread is an attempt to provide you with another tool to help you make a better informed decision.

Here are the rules:
1. There are no good schemes here, if the Ponzi is currently working and paying you out.  That's when you don't post here about it.
2. Be prepared to prove your claims.  Users who are out because of Ponzi are like sheep crying shears.  This is the place to cry Woolf.
3. This post will not be updated or maintain a list of the frauds.  Search the thread for your Ponzi, if you find it start reconsidering.

Cheers and good luck.

1) No one has ever lost on my site.  Ever! OK, well,  Its new.  7dayponzi.com
2) i posted escrow security... how you say that ALL ponzi are scam???
3) All state lotteryies are ponzi
4) US social security is a ponzi

WTF???


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: PonZ on March 01, 2015, 04:15:56 AM
I was just looking at that, so stay away from 7dayponzi.com...  Total absolutely a scam intended to rip you off.

Stay away scam.

What is your evidence??? Do you have 1 shred of evidence?  anything??? 1 morsel?  no you don't.
Ever heard of Empirical Data?  Ever heard of science?  Ever heard of facts?  Proof? logic?
Just go back to your church and talk about ferry tales and invisible people.


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: cheako911 on March 01, 2015, 04:24:11 AM
Stay away from sites that are hard to audit, this is especially true of sites where you get a custom deposit address.  If you'r not able to see everyone eases deposit, how can you be sure of anything?  If you'r asked for a BTC address, it's vary much likely a scam.

Operators can take any public key script from the deposit's input and use it as an output, just copy the output the BTC came from.  Simple!

If you are using a web wallet "STOP"!  These are no good for the bitcoin network or ecosystem.  blockchain.info wallets are OK, make sure to have backups.

Changing the address for each round serves little purpose.


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: JCaferJr on March 01, 2015, 04:27:13 AM
Stay away from sites that are hard to audit, this is especially true of sites where you get a custom deposit address.  If you'r not able to see everyone eases deposit, how can you be sure of anything?  If you'r asked for a BTC address, it's vary much likely a scam.

Operators can take any public key script from the deposit's input and use it as an output, just copy the output the BTC came from.  Simple!

If you are using a web wallet "STOP"!  These are no good for the bitcoin network or ecosystem.  blockchain.info wallets are OK, make sure to have backups.

Changing the address for each round serves little purpose, as in the above 7dayponzi.com, this is likely a scam.


Hard to audit?

https://blockchain.info/en/address/1BETAx2kRjuQaTWRBxzcohKPz6XNDQat7W

Come on man, you gave great arguments of how good weeklyponzi.com is.  This just seems like off the cuff complaining.


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: cheako911 on March 01, 2015, 04:37:30 AM
What about next week?  Why put each week on a different address?

Consider this, the Ponzi grows and becomes a billion dollar a week industry.  Do you know what would happen, sure the OP is supper rich, but that's about the time some hacker breaks in and defaces the site.

The defacing won't be obvious, just an adjustment to the code that displays the address.  Perhaps they will simply steal the privet keys and disable the payment system.


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: JCaferJr on March 01, 2015, 04:41:55 AM
What about next week?  Why put each week on a different address?

Consider this, your Ponzi grows and becomes a billion dollar a week industry.  Do you know what would happen, sure your supper rich, but that's about the time some hacker breaks in and defaces you site.

The defacing won't be obvious, just an adjustment to the code that displays the address.  Perhaps they will simply steal the privet keys and disable the payment system.


That is a good question.  I wish this was "my"ponzi.


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: cheako911 on March 01, 2015, 05:09:32 AM
I was just looking at that, so stay away from 7dayponzi.com...  Total absolutely a scam intended to rip you off.

Stay away scam.

What is your evidence??? Do you have 1 shred of evidence?  anything??? 1 morsel?  no you don't.
Ever heard of Empirical Data?  Ever heard of science?  Ever heard of facts?  Proof? logic?
Just go back to your church and talk about ferry tales and invisible people.

Guilty of overzealous advertisement.   That's not only suspicious, it's a blatant disregard for the rules.  Such a person with so little regard for following rules is likely the kind of person that runs from the room when he sees the cops enter.

You are bad news up and down, totally dishonest and untrustworthy.


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: sherbyspark on March 01, 2015, 08:05:00 AM
The one and only rule that should exist is that one should never invest in ponzis.
More likely you will be scammed, than getting a promised return. I think this fact has become evident after so many ponzis defaulting on paying out.


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: cheako911 on March 01, 2015, 08:11:58 AM
The one and only rule that should exist is that one should never invest in ponzis.
More likely you will be scammed, than getting a promised return. I think this fact has become evident after so many ponzis defaulting on paying out.

If something is viable for a millisecond, then it's viable.  Your irrational to consider something as completely useless because so many have died, take your own life for example it's quite clear some day it will end...  Are you going to not bother enjoying any of it?


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: xcapator on March 01, 2015, 08:13:37 AM
@cheako911: I know you have some active deposits that were stuck at nine9.ninja because no one else playing the game, so you're trying to warn people by saying 7dayponzi is a scam so that members here will go to nine9.ninja instead and then you can get your investment back ?

smart, huh ?


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: havecoch on March 01, 2015, 08:20:50 AM
@cheako911: I know you have some active deposits that were stuck at nine9.ninja because no one else playing the game, so you're trying to warn people by saying 7dayponzi is a scam so that members here will go to nine9.ninja instead and then you can get your investment back ?

smart, huh ?

ALl people who lose money on ponzis like this tend to say that . it isn't surprising.


Title: Re: The Real Scam Alert!
Post by: cheako911 on March 01, 2015, 06:33:22 PM
@cheako911: I know you have some active deposits that were stuck at ______ because no one else playing the game, so you're trying to warn people by saying _______ is a scam so that members here will go to _____ instead and then you can get your investment back ?

smart, huh ?

I only attack 7dayponzi because of PonZ's post.  I think that PonZ ought to be the bigger man.

I've no issues with other Ponzi, as indicated naming a ponzi on this list is the same as calling it a scam.  This is not the place to advertise Ponzi, if it's not bad use a euphemism or pet name here.  If you seriously think one hundred shinobi is bad, please explain.

The big issue is that dmugetsu in that "Latest Ponzi Collapses" thread doesn't mention any other Ponzi.  That's the scam that needs to be brought to light.