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bit★Starz - SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN

Following the great success of previous signature campaigns, we are pleased to bring it once again to bitcointalk forum users. Funds to be held by monbux's escrow service and this thread will be managed by user Neotox.

Our rates are as follows:

Hero and Senior Members (limited to 25 participants)
0.1 BTC for a minimum of 50 posts per month

Full Members (limited to 10 participants)
0.05 BTC for a minimum of 50 posts per month


All posts must be legitimate/constructive, meaningful content – no spam, single word posts, single image posts. This means: no spam, no bump, no ads, no abuse, no +1.

One account per person.

We reserve the right to cancel your participation if your posts are considered useless or spam.

To join:

1. Add the code that is for your membership level
2. Post in this thread your current post count and address in the following format:
3. Follow Neotox's post on qualified users to know that you are qualified and enrolled.
4. Be sure to follow our terms and conditions below.

We will pay out at the end of the period as long as the 50 posts minimum has been met. We will review your posts and verify that you have at least 50 constructive posts.


Bonus feat - Top Posters:
TOP THREE POSTERS WILL GET SOMETHING ON TOP THIS MONTH, ACCORDING TO THE TABLE BELOW:

1ST - 0.12
2ND - 0.08
3RD - 0.05

KINDLY NOTE THAT JUST LIKE THE CAMPAIGN ITSELF, SPAM POSTS WON'T COUNT FOR THIS! WE MEAN IT!  :D


Last but not least!

The signature campaign period will start on 1st March 2015 and end on March 31st (including). You must be APPROVED to participate. Please allow up to 48 hours for payment.

PM me with any questions or concerns.

Terms & Conditions of the promotion:
- Your signature must exclusively using our signature
- Users with negative trust won't be considered for this promotion.
- Participants must not change the signature during its period (30 days from the day participant is approved)
- Participants will be paid after the completion of the period.
- The posts by the participants must be made throughout the month.
- If the participant breaks forum rules (spamming/flamming), he/she will be automatically disqualified.
- Once you apply for this promotion, you are accepting the terms stated above.

i will reserve first spot for myself

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Enrolling
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i m joining again

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Thanks!

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Thanks

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Enrolling 
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Hero member

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Joining for another month:

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Join again
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Something came up, I couldn't complete 50 last month. Will try harder this month.

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senior

Hope I made it.

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2 Senior & 5 Full Member slots left now by my count

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Rank: Full Member (though I'll be a Senior this month).

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Re-joining from last month.

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Full Member

Cheers.

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Joining for another month :)

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all full member slots taken
only sr. member slots left

Think there's only one Senior/Hero slot left now.

Re-joining from last month.
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Sr. Member

Any spare slot for sr member?
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Re-enrolling
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Thanks

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Thanks

Damn, looks like I am missing out this time >:(

you took the last spot

no more free slots for march month
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=974052.msg10632814#msg10632814

That was touch and go. Whew. Thanks for fitting me in, Neotox.

Waiting rewards  ::)  8)

March 31st hasn't ended yet, be patient  :D

we are working on forum time and its still few minutes left to end the period

Hi Neotox,

Since it is now officially 1-Apr, I am changing my signature.

thanks everyone for participating
we have started counting your posts

Any idea about when the payment will be made?  :)

It's in April now, so I'm going to change my sig, thanks.

I know post counting was delayed because BCT was down. I am not concerned with date of payment, but when will the April campaign start registering?

I haven't received as well. I think it is on the way!

Yes, they always late but reliable. Hope they will pay in next few days.

Bitstarz usually pays late, we expect that. The lack of communication is worrying.  :-\

Actually it is not, since there is an escrow involved.
At some point, Monbux will have to take a call (maybe by 7-Apr, a week after the campaign ended?)

What takes so long for payment? This is a fixed rate campaign so qualified users are very easy and quick to tally up and issue money. All the other fixed rate deals usually pay out well within 24hours. Who is actually holding the funds currently?

I can be a good manager for this campaign  :D

Usually Moonbux is the escrow for this campaign

Hello,

Funds have are with monbux, but he doesn't have the paying list yet. That should be done today, so hopefully paid today also.

Best regards,
Nick

When will you start April sig campaign?

We have already a manager Neotox who is efficient guy, the main issues is the bitstars.net is always late.


No idea whether if there will be April campaign, but I already left this campaign.

Neotox still haven't reply to this thread yet. He should at least say something about the delay.

Why doesn't he have the list yet? Why doesn't neo just send it directly to monbux? What's with the delay?

final list of qualified users for payment sent to monbux (escrow)
payments will processed soon

sorry for delay (I had an accident last month so I was not much active , now I am back to work)

Are you not going to run April campaign?

April month thread will up very soon after payment for last month processed
payment list already sent to escrow

Cool, waiting for payment, you're too late. it's 7th now, one fourth of April passed by.

What is going on here? The payments were supposed to be sent to escrow and the new campaign was supposed to start "very soon". It's been 18 hours since you posted that and still no payment and no campaign. I refrained from complaining for the first few days, but we're waiting a whole week for something that could be easily done in 6 hours.

Haven't there been substantial delays every month on this campaign? Has monbux confirmed he's holding funds for this? Didn't he say he now longer was somewhere or was that another campaign?

Yes, he is still the manager of this campaign and holding the March funds, but he is outline today, maybe he will process the payment once he get online.

We need our payments. It has been delayed for many days. Are there funds for the April campaign?

fund is already with escrow for march month and payment list for march month has been sent to monbux , he will process the payments soon

we are waiting for long time, where is payment and why it is taking so much time to send money
The main reason of the delays seems that this campaign is indirectly managed by 3 users(bitstarz,monbux&neotox).why don't the campaign manager neotox to be act as escrow for this so it will speed up the process, he looks like a legit and trusted guy

April 6

April 7

It's the 8th and none of this happened. Also, I checked and Monbux was online on the 6th and 7th.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/117/013/cjZXR.jpg

thats why i m saying that use the campaign manager neotox as escrow provider for this, so that there will not extra delay from escrow side

please post the full contents of the quote
i said April month thread will up after payment for march month is processed, we are waiting for monbux to process the payments

Monbux seems to be a busy guy who had been here in last two days but didn't respond anything, he is definitely reliable but he is just too busy. It's almost 10th, the payment has been lated for a week so far.Maybe you can change the escrow for next month term.

Hi guys,

Monbux has the money for more than a month now. Due to health problems, we delayed to send him the list. Was sent a couple days ago.

You WILL get paid, AS ALWAYS.

Hopefully he can sort it out asap.

Cheers,
Nick

Change both the campaign manager and the escrow if you ask me. This is bad for Bitstarz's reputation.

thanks for your comment
i think users don't like me as campaign manager and think its my fault that payment is late

No neotox
we like your work, just want to say that improve payment system, 10 days delay is too much we are waiting for payments since last 4 days when you said it will processed very soon but nothing yet  :'(

It's not Neotox's fault, it seems this campaign works like this:

1.Neotox count the user post and send the list to bitstars.net → 2.bitstars.net confirm the list and send the list to monbux → 3.monbux make the payment

Now we stuck in last step, Neotox did a good job everytime, it's not his fault, the issues always happen with second and third step, now again, monbux had been online today but he still didn't reply here, maybe he missed the PM and Neotox or bitstars.net should PM him again. Besides, I will remind him on his escrow thread later.

Also, since you're trustworthy now, you could send the funds by yourself instead of using a time-consuming escrow.

Find escrow that active everyday.(ex:devthedev,master p)
Or
Im online everyday and I can act as an escrow if you want  ;D

your reputation has already been ruined! You need to change the policy otherwise more and more are leaving you!

thats why i am saying that neotox should work as both campaign manager and escrow provider for this so payment process can speed up, and he can send payment directly
he is a trusted guy, what you think if neotox work as escrow for this campaign as well as campaign manager

So, I'm here to whine again, it's been 9 days and of course no payment...
I'm with the others. If your escrow is failing every time it's time to change him. Time is money!

Yeah, it is not Neotox's fault here.

Maybe try a different method to avoid this?
monbux holds funds permanently till the campaign is closed. (that is how escrow should work according to link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0))
Neotox counts, sends to bitstarz, who makes the payment? That would be easier and less time consuming.

Just my opinion. Thanks :)

If bitstarz has the responsibility to make payments, there will be the risk that they won't pay.

That is when the escrow comes in. Read before you type.

I'm saying that IF (you probably missed that word), bitstarz has the responsibility (as in the only people with funds) then there will be the risk that they won't pay. With an escrow having enough funds: no problems!

I would suggest Neotox makes payments, if necessary, only after having a list approved by bitstarz.

Is this campaign still run in this month or just end?
Why didn't the OP paid people first, if he want to save his reputation.
When you run a business, reputation is everything.

The campaign usually has a new thread every month.

They will eventually pay I believe.

Hi,

Yes, it will be paid as always. We always paid every campaign and this time won't be any different. I have PMed monbux again about it.

We will look into more trusted escrow services for the coming campaigns. And yes, Neotox has been doing a great job, so please spare him :)

One thing, whoever was in March's campaign, feel free to remove the signature, you won't lose your payment because of that if you have succeeded in making the posts for the campaign period.

Regarding the idea of running without escrow (which we would pay it ourselves), we tried in the past, but no one would signup :)

Cheers!
Nick

Since you're all here, let me ask you:

Would you sign up to our campaign if we had no escrow and paid the money ourselves?

Thanks for the answers.

Nick

Personally, I would since you've been active in the signature market for several months with no issues.

Keep sufficient money with an escrow but pay out the money yourself or get the campaign manager to do it. The more middle men you cut out the smoother the process will be.

I don't think escrow is necessary, unless you are a newbie.
If you really run a real business, then people don't need worry about you don't pay them, because you don't pay them, you business is end for sure.
If you don't use escrow, you may change the pay period to weekly or bi weekly, not the monthly.

i think it is a best option
put the money with escrow but payout from your extra fund and don't move the money from escrow
either you or manager pay directly,so the payment processing can faster

Yes, I like the campaign but I'm one step from leaving because of this delay. All other campaigns need less than 48 hours to send the money, some do it in less than 12. Last month it took you 3 days, which I can handle, this time is way over the line. I don't really care how you do it and who keeps the money as long as you can pay on time. The campaign is an agreement between 2 people, I do my part and play by your rules and expect the same thing from you.

I am sure OP will pay. Don't get discouraged. It will probably be better from next campaign. :)



Yeah, that is exactly what I meant. :)

As an escrow, he should be reliable and active, otherwise he isn't qualified as an escrow. Every members are waiting for his payment.  I think he owns us an explanation. He has no time or is unable to pay out, should have told us earlier and resigned as our escrow!

Still waiting....



This is probably the best solution. Bitstarz can implement it right away. Pay this month's campaign and let the funds stay with Monbux for next month's campaign.

That's fine since you're trustworthy, the second thing I would suggest is increasing the rate, compared with other campaigns your rate is far lower now since the value of Bitcoin dropped a lot.

Also, you maybe need a new signature.

Hey guys!  Sorry for the late response, I just checked my email yesterday night and saw that I have indeed received the lists.  I should be releasing the funds soon, later today!

Cheers,
monbux

Good news for all of us  ;D

Everyone has been paid in full: https://blockchain.info/tx/62280991ed77705d9dcb588a0dbcc9d07b74ee8b4798547187f7d916b09ba25e
Feel free to drop me a trust comment if you felt like my escrow services was worthy enough of your comment (did that make sense) ! ;D

Weren't there supposed to be bonuses this month? According to the payments list nobody got any.

According to the op there were 3 bonuses available. Maybe they forgot them or something.

Got this PM from bitstarz a while ago!  Sending these prizes now!  Congratz to all the winners!
TXid: https://blockchain.info/tx/782944640c6f576a7016d00aed7a882e234098f4d1c1ea03dca30d1e4d71a747

Just curious.

I saw that Neotox received a payment of 0.1 BTC. Is this for managing the signature campaign or taking part in it?
From February's payment, I presume that the fee for managing the campaign isn't 0.1 BTC.

He definitely didn't complete 50 posts in the month of March. ;)
Isn't it a conflict of interest to have the campaign manager participating in the campaign?

Maybe it's both?


Why would you assume it isn't? 0.1 seems to be pretty common for running a sig campaign.


Why would it be? Many operate campaigns and also participate (stinglewood, Marco etc). There shouldn't be a problem unless he is paying himself after not having made enough posts or dishing out bonuses to himself.

It can't be both, since the payment for the signature campaign is 0.1 BTC. There may have been some part payment as a special case, but then this hasn't been mentioned.



February's payment.
https://blockchain.info/tx/122ae3d79957b15edebb13b059c89131fe4a511ad6dd4293bd4e76816264b49a
Payment to Neotox = 0.11 BTC and he had completed 50 posts in this month.


Stingleword doesn't participate any more. He just carries the signature.
Since you are evaluating your own posts and paying yourself, there is a possibility of abuse. That is where I feel there is a conflict of interest.

The payment of 0.1BTC is more likely to be for carrying the signature only.

It isn't really a conflict of interest.

You are discussing the terms between Neotox and Bitstarz lol. Let them be. I am sure Bitstarz knows. We don't have to bother about the agreement between them as long as the participants get paid.

Just my opinion.

Thanks :)

Yeah I think its a fee for manage the campaign.
If the company has entrust the manager X to handle the campaign, manager can do anything including enroll the campaign and got paid even he did not reach min post.

For me, it's called as a Power of Campaign Manager 8)
But it also depend on profesionalism as the campaign manager


This period he joined the campaign

I don't think it matters, nor is it any of your business. It may or may not be a conflict of interest, however the owners obviously know about it before the fact.
Cool. Maybe they decided to pay him a bonus last month, maybe a lot of other things. .1 is not unreasonable to manage a campaign.

You're right he doesn't participate

Actually he does.

As I mentioned above if the owners have a problem with this then they could easily put a stop to it. I would doubt that the owners are completely ignoring what is happening with their sig campaign, they are just not involved in the day to day operation of it. I can assure you that if any bonuses were given out that were not authorized then he would quickly be removed from being manager, regardless of if it was to himself or not.

Your arguments are also moot because he could just as easily participated via his alt account, and no it would not be detected because it is very easy to hide the fact that one of your accounts is your alt.

I would say it depends on the terms between the campaign manager and the management of the advertised site.

For example, I don't pay myself for carrying the signature, because my pay covers it too. So, does the co-manager. On the other hand, certain other campaign managers pay themselves, but as you pointed out, that is allowed unless they agreed to the contrary.

Thanks :)

This doesn't sound good coming from someone who runs a campaign. This is basically saying it's ok to 'dip into the till' and steal as long as you have the power of being campaign manager which sounds like abuse of power/trust to me. Managers have been entrusted to run the campaign properly on behalf of the company and they have to play by the rules unless they've been given special privilege by the owner. If he's signing up to the campaign and paying himself without having done the posts then that's dishonest (unless bitstarz has said it's ok). Imagine if he has alts that he just pays out without doing the posts too.

Come on.... This none of your business line of argument is getting old.
I have just raised a question and people (including you) have expressed their thoughts. Period.

I just send them complete detailed stats of the enrolled users and then they pick the users who qualified for payments and send the list of payments to escrow.
I want to make it clear that i never added myself in list of users to be paid also i m not processing payments, i m managing this campaign and participating also, all the payments are manually approved by bitstars.net

Fair enough.
I have got my response.  :)