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Title: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: kitarohotono on March 05, 2015, 09:25:33 AM "Politicians and the media are using Vladimir Putin and Ukraine to justify military expansionism. It’s dangerous folly"
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war) Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: NUFCrichard on March 05, 2015, 10:11:55 AM "Politicians and the media are using Vladimir Putin and Ukraine to justify military expansionism. It’s dangerous folly" http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war) I think this could have been posted in one of the many other Russia vs the west threads... I think Ukraine is desparate for war. Russia is desparate not to have Nato troops walking around next to their borders. America wants the whole world to accept that they are the overlords and must do whatever they say. Media here only see the western side of things, so report it as such. I don't even like discussing the whole situation with mainstream press readers, because they just say that Putin is like Hitler. I don't think he is a great guy or anything, but I think fearing your enemies politically taking over your once best friend and neighbour is a fairly normal response to have, and most other countries would fight back in some way too. Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: Monetizer on March 05, 2015, 10:13:11 AM I have to agree. I am seeing many examples of this all over the world... It's quite sad...
Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: Balthazar on March 05, 2015, 09:18:18 PM Meanwhile, Russian parliament is working on Shariah-compliant legal framework, which is needed to make interest-free banking possible.
http://top.rbc.ru/finances/05/03/2015/54f782e49a79476590eca758 http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/09/us-islam-financing-russia-idUSKBN0LD0DU20150209 Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: tee-rex on March 05, 2015, 09:32:11 PM "Politicians and the media are using Vladimir Putin and Ukraine to justify military expansionism. It’s dangerous folly" http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war) The most important part from the article to discuss here (and for those who are tldr): Quote Hundreds of US troops are arriving in Ukraine this week to bolster the Kiev regime’s war with Russian-backed rebels in the east. Not to be outdone, Britain is sending 75 military advisers of its own. As 20th-century history shows, the dispatch of military advisers is often how disastrous escalations start. They are also a direct violation of last month’s Minsk agreement, negotiated with France and Germany, that has at least achieved a temporary ceasefire and some pull-back of heavy weapons. Article 10 requires the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Ukraine. The above, if true, seems to be foreshadowing a further exacerbation of the bloody conflict in Ukraine. The U.S. is likely running out of time to start another full-fledged war in Europe in an effort to postpone a seemingly inevitable economic collapse. Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: Nemo1024 on March 05, 2015, 09:41:09 PM "Politicians and the media are using Vladimir Putin and Ukraine to justify military expansionism. It’s dangerous folly" http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war) The most important part from the article to discuss here (and for those who are tldr): Quote Hundreds of US troops are arriving in Ukraine this week to bolster the Kiev regime’s war with Russian-backed rebels in the east. Not to be outdone, Britain is sending 75 military advisers of its own. As 20th-century history shows, the dispatch of military advisers is often how disastrous escalations start. They are also a direct violation of last month’s Minsk agreement, negotiated with France and Germany, that has at least achieved a temporary ceasefire and some pull-back of heavy weapons. Article 10 requires the withdrawal of all foreign forces from Ukraine. The above, if true, seems to be foreshadowing a further exacerbation of the bloody conflict in Ukraine. The U.S. is likely running out of time to start another full-fledged war in Europe in an effort to postpone a seemingly inevitable economic collapse. So it does. And the CIA's head visited Kiev a couple of days ago, which is also and event foreshadowing an escalation of the conflict. By the way, The Guardian, and to some extent The Associated Press are the few remaining Western English-language media that I still have respect for. Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: Balthazar on March 05, 2015, 09:45:21 PM So it does. And the CIA's head visited Kiev a couple of days ago, which is also and event foreshadowing an escalation of the conflict. Last two times this led UAF to the catastrophic defeat. So I think it's a kind of good news. Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: Nemo1024 on March 05, 2015, 10:02:53 PM So it does. And the CIA's head visited Kiev a couple of days ago, which is also and event foreshadowing an escalation of the conflict. Last two times this led UAF to the catastrophic defeat. So I think it's a kind of good news. Not for all the civilians that will start dying again once Ukies resume their attacks, bolstered by the US presence on the ground. And what tee-rex said: Arms supplies to Kiev not in line with Arms Trade Treaty — Russian diplomat http://tass.ru/en/world/781250 Quote MOSCOW, March 5. /TASS/. The weapons supplies to Kiev contradict the Arms Trade Treaty that became effective last year, the Russian Foreign Ministry’s official spokesman, Alexander Lukashevich, said on Thursday. "Not only the United States, but a whole range of European states, which unexpectedly emerged in this field, and in particular Finland [showed up in weapons supplies issue to Ukraine]," Lukashevich said. "We responded rather sharply and publicly to the plans of supplies of some equipment to Ukraine which can be used in carrying out combat actions," the diplomat said. Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 03:16:32 PM frankly a republic with weed legal, and boom gone, busted all preconception... you have no idea... it's a perfect move, don't let ideological consideration (of your own making) stop you from making a good, sound and intelligent move... no Olympic game, football (it's only sheeple watchin) could do the same... chose wisely the republic (ideally the poorest, the climatic best and rules).
edit: when were the plants of the creation made illegal in Russia? imposed by the amerikis trough their un thingis? Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: blablahblah on March 06, 2015, 11:09:50 PM Not another one...
All I see is constant demonisation of Ukraine. Please explain what part of the Russian Federation has Ukraine invaded recently. "Politicians and the media are using Vladimir Putin and Ukraine to justify military expansionism. It’s dangerous folly" http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war (http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/04/demonisation-russia-risks-paving-way-for-war) I think this could have been posted in one of the many other Russia vs the west threads... I think Ukraine is desparate for war. Russia is desparate not to have Nato troops walking around next to their borders. There seem to be lots of Russian Quote America wants the whole world to accept that they are the overlords and must do whatever they say. As a non-American (me) speaking to another non-American (you), I can also make empty statements on behalf of the US and say: no they don't. You're full of shit. The Americans do not want to be seen as overlords, so prove me wrong, bitch. Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: Beliathon on March 07, 2015, 12:40:33 AM It's not demonization when nations are actively behaving like fucking demons, now is it? Fuck Russia. Fuck all nations.
Title: Re: "The demonisation of Russia risks paving the way for war" Post by: BitMos on March 07, 2015, 01:27:28 PM It's not demonization when nations are actively behaving like fucking demons, now is it? Fuck Russia. Fuck all nations. the day Russia legalize all plants, I may end up there... forevermore... why? no debt (or if it arise, the loaners will know their faith), no gmos, no du, you can eat most plant and fish and animals of the creation safely, there are the true Americans, you can participate with the Russian State in the progression of Russia (just not plan overthrow of the gov ala Hillary), air quality is top, it's huge, you can go to China by foot, Vodkaa and more, what's not to love? |