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Title: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 05, 2015, 08:40:49 PM
Why, Blizzard, Why?   :(

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113620/blizzard-creates-own-digital-currency-for-world-of-warcraft-still-doesnt-accept-bitcoin

http://siliconangle.com/files/2012/02/10000gold-1btc.jpg

Makes no sense to me, especially for a game that has an auction house, sells so many accounts and in game currency on eBay for real money...this would be a perfect match to avoid scams and such if done properly.

Guess they have no way to apply regulation to it, but still.  Way to be non-progressive, Blizzard!   >:(


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 05, 2015, 08:47:04 PM
WoW gold predates Bitcoin. Are you talking about WoW tokens? They're new but they only allow the exchange of gold and game time. I don't think Bitcoin would be useful for that.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: MakingMoneyHoney on March 05, 2015, 08:47:13 PM
It's not a cryptocurrency right? It sounds like Amazon's coin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Coin


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: PenguinFire on March 05, 2015, 08:51:38 PM
Maybe investors weren't very happy with the idea?  I don't know.  :-\


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: AgentofCoin on March 05, 2015, 08:53:48 PM
WoW Gold should be purchasable with Bitcoin.
I'm confident they will add that ability, sometime in the future.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 05, 2015, 09:00:57 PM
WoW Gold should be purchasable with Bitcoin.
I'm confident they will add that ability, sometime in the future.

A lot of people exchange WoW Gold for Bitcoin and vice versa. I bought a couple of mounts last year with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: AgentofCoin on March 05, 2015, 09:03:13 PM
WoW Gold should be purchasable with Bitcoin.
I'm confident they will add that ability, sometime in the future.

A lot of people exchange WoW Gold for Bitcoin and vice versa. I bought a couple of mounts last year with bitcoin.

Let me add to my statement.

WoW Gold should be purchasable with Bitcoin, within the WoW game/payment system.
I'm confident they will add that ability, sometime in the future.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 05, 2015, 09:07:44 PM
WoW Gold should be purchasable with Bitcoin.
I'm confident they will add that ability, sometime in the future.

A lot of people exchange WoW Gold for Bitcoin and vice versa. I bought a couple of mounts last year with bitcoin.

Let me add to my statement.

WoW Gold should be purchasable with Bitcoin, within the WoW game/payment system.
I'm confident they will add that ability, sometime in the future.


That would be nice but I don't think they'll do it because of all the legal hassles Bitcoin has had. If I was running the company I would stay away from Bitcoin like the plague. It's simply unnecessary for them.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Lauda on March 05, 2015, 09:20:31 PM
The 'Gold' was introduced with the first release of World of Warcraft. I think that the AD just confused you.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 05, 2015, 09:43:17 PM
As a wow player and someone who sells gold for Bitcoin this isn't Blizzard making any type of currency, essentially they're selling game time at a premium, instead of the standard 15$ the "token" will be 20$. If you pay for you wow time ingame with gold from another person blizzard just made an extra 5$, and it helps keep subs up as a lot of people will spend the gold instead of money.

Kingcolex, you are absolutely right.  It's selling game time:

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/18141101/introducing-the-wow-token-3-2-2015

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/content_entry_media/du/DUKMRUTRHLU31425064919799.jpg

Wish they allowed Bitcoin to purchase WoW Tokens or just integrated somehow into the game itself...


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: jbrnt on March 05, 2015, 09:55:49 PM
Blizzard is in the gaming industry for money, not to help promote bitcoin. If I am running the company, I would want to create my own currency I can sell and control, not adopt another currency "in the wild".


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: unamis76 on March 05, 2015, 10:05:48 PM
If I'm understanding well, this is an in-game currency, not run on a blockchain, right? If so, it makes total sense. Game studios have been doing it for years, tokens in exchange of certain levels, and people buy accounts with tokens...

Nothing new, and doesn't really have much to do with Bitcoin, in my opinion.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Nikinger on March 05, 2015, 10:16:42 PM
Why, Blizzard, Why?   :(
"WoW Gold" can be frozen, credited, deducted, transfered and destroyed on Blizzard's demands. On contrast, Bitcoin doesn't have this advantage. That's why creating an own currency is better for Blizzard.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: MakingMoneyHoney on March 05, 2015, 10:22:33 PM
If I'm understanding well, this is an in-game currency, not run on a blockchain, right? If so, it makes total sense. Game studios have been doing it for years, tokens in exchange of certain levels, and people buy accounts with tokens...

Nothing new, and doesn't really have much to do with Bitcoin, in my opinion.

No, but it would be nice if more game companies took Bitcoin.

Here's an example: Nexon has many games and they use NX as their currency to buy items or service time (such as a month of premium service), in their games. You can buy NX with cash, credit, etc. But now they allow you to buy it with Bitcoin or Dogecoin:

https://i.imgur.com/cQyjZdJm.png (http://imgur.com/cQyjZdJ)

https://i.imgur.com/hgiNwWmm.png (http://imgur.com/hgiNwWm)

https://i.imgur.com/wcIX2R5m.png (http://imgur.com/wcIX2R5)


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 05, 2015, 10:22:44 PM
If you could fund WoW Tokens with a credit/debit card or WoW/Blizzard gift card, why couldn't you do it with Bitcoin?

Either that or Blizzard could make a custom Bitcoin wallet for in game transactions....it's not like they can't do it.  They're freaking Activision-Blizzard!  They have the resources and technical talent to do so.  

It's just that they choose not to, that gets on my nerves....


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: L on March 05, 2015, 10:26:49 PM
It makes all the sense for them not to use bitcoin and create their own currency, pretty sure they want to be in control of supply and pretty much all aspects regarding their currency.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: dKingston on March 05, 2015, 11:04:56 PM
lol that doesn't sound very trustworthy to me


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 05, 2015, 11:11:20 PM
Either way, we all know the reasons why Blizzard didn't do it.  Pretty much the obvious ones, regulate their own in game currency, change terms, credit/deduct, transfer, change value overnight, etc...have complete and utter control of it. 

We all know Bitcoin is unpredictable and volatile, decentralized, etc, but it'd be cool if a famous or known high profile game developer/publisher like a Blizzard, like an EA, like a Take 2 or someone anyone just stood out of their own comfort zone and be like.....we'll be the first one to innovate and step out of the box and integrate Bitcoin into either their payment system, their system for microtransactions like "horse armor", or their in game currency.

That would truly be mind blowing.  But for now, they all play it close to the vest and safe...

Pussies.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Hazir on March 05, 2015, 11:19:52 PM
It is quite simple. Blizzard likes to be in control. Just that. When Blizzard has its own currency that will mean it can be manipulated in any way Blizzard wish, with bitcoin it is not so simple.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: dragon321 on March 07, 2015, 11:56:50 PM
It is quite simple. Blizzard likes to be in control. Just that. When Blizzard has its own currency that will mean it can be manipulated in any way Blizzard wish, with bitcoin it is not so simple.
Pretty much this.

I mean who wouldn't want to print his/her own money?


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: ajareselde on March 08, 2015, 12:02:39 AM
It is quite simple. Blizzard likes to be in control. Just that. When Blizzard has its own currency that will mean it can be manipulated in any way Blizzard wish, with bitcoin it is not so simple.
Pretty much this.

I mean who wouldn't want to print his/her own money?

Its not a problem that they have their tokens, the problem is if people give it too much attention, but i doubt it will happen.
Its also not surprising they made this move, since most of their customers are using paypal and are quite happy with that, not every non-adoption is a fail.

cheers


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Hazir on March 08, 2015, 02:38:52 PM
They have no clue about economy. Not long ago they made Diablo 3 with an online marketplace, so people wouldn't sell items outside the game and at the same time pay a nice tax to blizzard. A year ago they were forced to close it down. Bottom line, prices in the real money marketplace were so pumped up that it was much better to trade with in game gold, and gold marketplace was as always hyperinflated by Chinese farmers :D Let's wait and see how this new idea works out.

I remember this. I was ab avid Diablo 3 player back then. But that economy of Blizzard from D3 was not to amuse people or make life easier. Auction House in Diablo 3 was created for Blizzard to make more money. Every transaction was after all taxed by them. I imagine that will be a thing with their new project as well. Blizzard is a stock company, they need to make money. They do not care how they will earn them.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Lethn on March 08, 2015, 03:29:58 PM
This shouldn't be any surprise, considering how DRM infested the Blizzard games have gotten ( I actually outright refuse to buy any of their new games or play them because of it ) it seems pretty normal to me that they'd completely detest the idea of linking their game to a currency they couldn't control either.

As usual Bitcoin proves to be a true litmus test as others have said for those who preach the free market and those who actually believe in it.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: unamis76 on March 08, 2015, 03:34:14 PM
Not even a in game currency it is just game time, it's a month of wow access you can buy and trade for gold. It won't be the basis of the economy or will it be accepted on the auction house. It is a way to buy gold from one player and the other get wow time saving them 15 bucks.

So basically marketing at it's finest, I guess :)


No, but it would be nice if more game companies took Bitcoin.

I agree with you on that... I'd love to see Steam accepting Bitcoin on the store


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Snail2 on March 08, 2015, 05:41:16 PM
I would be surprised if any of the gaming companies would use such a volatile in game currency as BTC, especially when have zero influence over the price of it.
About one and a half year ago a Minecraft server operator complained about how using LTC as ingame currency killed the in-game market first later his gaming community and finally his server. (He utilized LTC when it worth something next to nothing and he ended up with a Minecraft world where almost anything was controlled by a few speculators.)


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: maku on March 08, 2015, 05:59:38 PM
I would be surprised if any of the gaming companies would use such a volatile in game currency as BTC, especially when have zero influence over the price of it.
About one and a half year ago a Minecraft server operator complained about how using LTC as ingame currency killed the in-game market first later his gaming community and finally his server. (He utilized LTC when it worth something next to nothing and he ended up with a Minecraft world where almost anything was controlled by a few speculators.)
Bitcoin is volatile, that is a fact. So why so many big players, much bigger than some game companies already accepted bitcoin? Why Microsoft and Dell or online shops like Newegg are accepting bitcoin now? And your LTC example is a little off the road - in my opinion the ONLY cryptocurrency worth promoting is bitcoin. LTC or Doge not to mention some more coins like PayCoin are just not good at all.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: maku on April 10, 2015, 06:50:27 PM
Recently Blizzard worked on new kind of "token currency" and they did it! But look what potentially would happen when Blizzard (or any other gaming company) tries to create some sort of substitute altcoin (note: it is not real altcoin, and it's not based on blockchain or anything but just imagine what will happen if it would): http://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcrafts-new-token-currency-sheds-a-quarter-of-its-value-in-one-day/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcrafts-new-token-currency-sheds-a-quarter-of-its-value-in-one-day/)
They don't have any idea about economy...


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Fabrizio89 on April 10, 2015, 06:51:30 PM
That's pretty stupid


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: ensurance982 on April 10, 2015, 07:23:24 PM
It's much easier for them to deal with. In case anything goes wrong, they still have control over the currency. Also, well, they're selling that currency to their customers. They want to make money :)


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: DarkHyudrA on April 10, 2015, 07:37:12 PM
Recently Blizzard worked on new kind of "token currency" and they did it! But look what potentially would happen when Blizzard (or any other gaming company) tries to create some sort of substitute altcoin (note: it is not real altcoin, and it's not based on blockchain or anything but just imagine what will happen if it would): http://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcrafts-new-token-currency-sheds-a-quarter-of-its-value-in-one-day/ (http://www.pcgamer.com/world-of-warcrafts-new-token-currency-sheds-a-quarter-of-its-value-in-one-day/)
They don't have any idea about economy...

The game got super inflated. There's too much gold generated from old players, and little to none way of that gold being "sinked"(the auction house always cut 5%, but that's pretty low).
And you guys must remeber that gold is generated from nowhere, every second. Transactions on the game are instant except when trying to move things between servers. Tho se 2 things I believe that a blockchain solution won't be enough.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: spazzdla on April 10, 2015, 08:28:30 PM
WoW Gold should be purchasable with Bitcoin.
I'm confident they will add that ability, sometime in the future.

This.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: tokeweed on April 11, 2015, 04:30:17 AM
Why, Blizzard, Why?   :(

http://cointelegraph.com/news/113620/blizzard-creates-own-digital-currency-for-world-of-warcraft-still-doesnt-accept-bitcoin

http://siliconangle.com/files/2012/02/10000gold-1btc.jpg

Makes no sense to me, especially for a game that has an auction house, sells so many accounts and in game currency on eBay for real money...this would be a perfect match to avoid scams and such if done properly.

Guess they have no way to apply regulation to it, but still.  Way to be non-progressive, Blizzard!   >:(

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/10/5b/9b/105b9b7e065813aaae185491e532aa44.jpg


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Q7 on April 11, 2015, 04:49:39 AM
If they don't integrate bitcoin to their system, people can still find other channels to acquire wow gold to pay using bitcoin. There are a lot of websites and marketplace that you can trade without using their system. So either way for them it's a loss of opportunity and imagine the amount of fees they could have collected if it was done through their system.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: tokeweed on April 11, 2015, 04:52:11 AM
If they don't integrate bitcoin to their system, people can still find other channels to acquire wow gold to pay using bitcoin. There are a lot of websites and marketplace that you can trade without using their system. So either way for them it's a loss of opportunity and imagine the amount of fees they could have collected if it was done through their system.

Ripple or Stellar could be useful for this.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: BitcoinNewbie15 on April 11, 2015, 05:30:09 AM
That would be awesome if World of Warcraft accepted BTC payments! I hope they don't create their own crypto currency though. Hopefully they will accept BTC some time in the future :)


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: tokeweed on April 11, 2015, 05:37:47 AM
That would be awesome if World of Warcraft accepted BTC payments! I hope they don't create their own crypto currency though. Hopefully they will accept BTC some time in the future :)

Hopefully...  But I wouldn't hold my breath.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Kprawn on April 11, 2015, 06:53:30 AM
I want to see this in some of their other games.... {StarCraft}  ;D

They should have a betting system built in with escrow, where spectators bet on the outcome of matches in tournaments. {Sport betting}

I watch these tournaments and would also like to Tip the players {in game} if it was a GG. It's a spectator sport, and we should be able to bet on the outcome of these games. {Pro levels}

Blizzard could take a percentage of the bets, for the escrow service being rendered. {They like to make money on everything}

So on top of the prize money, people can bet on these games and the incentive for the Pro players will be to play better to get more tips.  ;D


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 13, 2015, 04:03:40 PM
I want to see this in some of their other games.... {StarCraft}  ;D

They should have a betting system built in with escrow, where spectators bet on the outcome of matches in tournaments. {Sport betting}

I watch these tournaments and would also like to Tip the players {in game} if it was a GG. It's a spectator sport, and we should be able to bet on the outcome of these games. {Pro levels}

Blizzard could take a percentage of the bets, for the escrow service being rendered. {They like to make money on everything}

So on top of the prize money, people can bet on these games and the incentive for the Pro players will be to play better to get more tips.  ;D

To add to your perceptive post, if Blizzard or eSports events could somehow award prize money in BTC, that'd be good for all parties involved.

We're already seeing BTC tipping thanks to Changetip and Twitch for gamers livestreaming:

http://www.coindesk.com/changetip-integrates-with-game-streaming-service-twitch-tv/

Also, Xapo and CEVO with their partnership:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19958/xapo-partners-online-gaming-company-cevo-holds-21000-giveaway/

Looks promising on the gaming/Bitcoin front, hopefully Blizzard follows suit soon.



Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 14, 2015, 09:10:47 AM
If everyone in the world creates their own crypto currency, then there will be billions of different shitcoins around, and none of them will be having any value. BTW, I was thinking that Blizzard was intelligent. Seems that he was not.


Title: Re: Blizzard creates own currency "WoW Gold" instead of using Bitcoin
Post by: Amph on April 14, 2015, 10:52:30 AM
I want to see this in some of their other games.... {StarCraft}  ;D

They should have a betting system built in with escrow, where spectators bet on the outcome of matches in tournaments. {Sport betting}

I watch these tournaments and would also like to Tip the players {in game} if it was a GG. It's a spectator sport, and we should be able to bet on the outcome of these games. {Pro levels}

Blizzard could take a percentage of the bets, for the escrow service being rendered. {They like to make money on everything}

So on top of the prize money, people can bet on these games and the incentive for the Pro players will be to play better to get more tips.  ;D

To add to your perceptive post, if Blizzard or eSports events could somehow award prize money in BTC, that'd be good for all parties involved.

We're already seeing BTC tipping thanks to Changetip and Twitch for gamers livestreaming:

http://www.coindesk.com/changetip-integrates-with-game-streaming-service-twitch-tv/

Also, Xapo and CEVO with their partnership:

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/19958/xapo-partners-online-gaming-company-cevo-holds-21000-giveaway/

Looks promising on the gaming/Bitcoin front, hopefully Blizzard follows suit soon.



there was already some events with bitcoin prize as reward, they were showmatch between famous players(i'm talking about starcraft 2), like naniway vs scarlett(14 btc)

i don't know about other game