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Title: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: Chef Ramsay on March 06, 2015, 01:40:21 AM
President Barack Obama’s November amnesty will give $1.7 billion in taxpayers’ cash to illegal immigrants, according to a congressional study.

The news emerged two days after top Republican leaders overcame GOP opposition to a 2015 budget bill that allows Obama to fund his unpopular amnesty for roughly 5 million illegals.

“The program could cost taxpayers $1.7 billion over 10 years, almost all of it in the first five years,” according to a report by the McClatchy Washington Bureau. The rebates are allowed by the IRS’ interpretation of existing laws governing the Earned Income Tax Credit program, which was designed to subsidize low-wage employment in the United States.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/05/obama-amnesty-to-grant-1-7-billion-in-taxpayer-cash-to-illegals/ (http://dailycaller.com/2015/03/05/obama-amnesty-to-grant-1-7-billion-in-taxpayer-cash-to-illegals/)


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: Possum577 on March 06, 2015, 05:03:21 AM
I'm not OK with giving money (tax credits or otherwise) to illegal immigrants. However, I believe that any American citizen that's against immigration has to re-read history and understand that this country was created by immigrants, and should always be respected as such.

I can't find a single article that quotes the dollar amount you're quoting, why is that? Is it because every news source is Liberal, in Obama's pocket, or hiding the truth from us? No, it's because the facts in your article aren't accurate or true.

Here's the truth: http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/amnestybonus.asp (http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/amnestybonus.asp)


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 03:23:49 PM
it's nothing... how many illegals live in giant mcmansion? nope. those managing those funds I don't know... it's so easy to find where the wealth is, google earth, layers proprety size, biggest .. bingo! phara build pyramid, and giant palaces, most suckers build giant palaces... since... well...

classic divide and exploit trick... there are two slaves each fight for a chicken leg, meanwhile in the mansion of the plantation... you get the trick, don't fall for it. (abortion, same sex what ever, drugs, etc etc...). So cool that the sheeple fall each time.

Would be fun to make a new kind of pant trendy... I don't something so ridicule... with the right tools they will all buy it, and then, in a few years, change, rinse and repeat BTC BTC BTC.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: newflesh on March 06, 2015, 03:58:22 PM
If US immigrants were allowed to work legally they would pay an estimated $2 billion in taxes annually. http://www.itep.org/immigration/

It's also a myth that immigrants do not pay taxes:

http://static1.businessinsider.com/image/4f6367f66bb3f7e92c000006/illegal-immigrants-taxes-2010-by-state.jpg


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: Beliathon on March 06, 2015, 06:26:21 PM
A nation founded on immigrants, built by immigrants, now trying to close the borders on immigrants and keep it for themselves. Such utter hypocrisy the world has never known.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: username18333 on March 06, 2015, 06:30:01 PM
[…]

Quote from: Peaceful Revolution Network link=http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html
The 50 years of war left England in financial ruin. The government officials went begging for loans from guess who, and the deal proposed resulted in a government sanctioned, privately owned bank which could produce money from nothing, essentially legally counterfeiting a national currency for private gain.

Now the politicians had a source from which to borrow all the money they wanted to borrow, and the debt created was secured against public taxes.

You would think someone would have seen through this, and realised they could produce their own money and owe no interest, but instead the Bank of England has been used as a model and now nearly every nation has a Central Bank with fractional reserve banking at its core.

These central banks have the power to take over a nations economy and become that nations real governing force. What we have here is a scam of mammoth proportions covering what is actually a hidden tax, being collected by private concerns.

The country sells bonds to the bank in return for money it cannot raise in taxes. The bonds are paid for by money produced from thin air. The government pays interest on the money it borrowed by borrowing more money in the same way. There is no way this debt can ever be paid, it has and will continue to increase.

If the government did find a way to pay off the debt, the result would be that there would be no bonds to back the currency, so to pay the debt would be to kill the currency.
(Red colorization mine.)

“Tax revenue” is a form of collateral for the loans provided to governments by central banks.

You can relax, those “tax dollars” are mere collateral for the appropriations.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 06:30:11 PM
A nation founded on immigrants, built by immigrants, now trying to close the borders on immigrants and keep it for themselves. Such utter hypocrisy the world has never known.

master kill, some in d.c. wanted to become the exploiters of America, when they realized that it wouldn't be enough to satisfy their greed, they aimed to the world, and saw but never discovered Eternal China. Then the troops understood and turned to the homefront, pacifying it, rebuilding it in an homeland, made peace with the rest of the world and loved on and on... or chose w.a.r. and discovered that eating r.a.w. isn't that cool after a while...


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 06:31:30 PM
[…]

Quote from: Peaceful Revolution Network link=http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html
The 50 years of war left England in financial ruin. The government officials went begging for loans from guess who, and the deal proposed resulted in a government sanctioned, privately owned bank which could produce money from nothing, essentially legally counterfeiting a national currency for private gain.

Now the politicians had a source from which to borrow all the money they wanted to borrow, and the debt created was secured against public taxes.

You would think someone would have seen through this, and realised they could produce their own money and owe no interest, but instead the Bank of England has been used as a model and now nearly every nation has a Central Bank with fractional reserve banking at its core.

These central banks have the power to take over a nations economy and become that nations real governing force. What we have here is a scam of mammoth proportions covering what is actually a hidden tax, being collected by private concerns.

The country sells bonds to the bank in return for money it cannot raise in taxes. The bonds are paid for by money produced from thin air. The government pays interest on the money it borrowed by borrowing more money in the same way. There is no way this debt can ever be paid, it has and will continue to increase.

If the government did find a way to pay off the debt, the result would be that there would be no bonds to back the currency, so to pay the debt would be to kill the currency.
(Red colorization mine.)

“Tax revenue” is a form of collateral for the loans provided to governments by central banks.

paper doesn't stop bullet, bullet goes trough paper (Black colorization is mine)

THE WORDS OF THE LAWS VS THE SWORDS OF THE WORLDS


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: username18333 on March 06, 2015, 06:36:27 PM
[…]

paper doesn't stop bullet, bullet goes trough paper (Black colorization is mine)

THE WORDS OF THE LAWS VS THE SWORDS OF THE WORLDS

However, a lack of “paper” (BitMos) could obstruct the acquisition of “bullet” (BitMos).


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: RodeoX on March 06, 2015, 06:40:08 PM
Yes it's the Irish that are the problem. Go back to Ireland and stop stealing our jobs!! Just because you came here a hundred years ago is no excuse!!!!  :D


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 07:42:32 PM
[…]

paper doesn't stop bullet, bullet goes trough paper (Black colorization is mine)

THE WORDS OF THE LAWS VS THE SWORDS OF THE WORLDS

However, a lack of “paper” (BitMos) could obstruct the acquisition of “bullet” (BitMos).

again wrong, if you have the bullet, the bullet maker will produce them, your medieval studies lack in consistence.

your first lesson in neofeudalism?


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: saddampbuh on March 06, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
A nation founded on immigrants, built by immigrants, now trying to close the borders on immigrants and keep it for themselves. Such utter hypocrisy the world has never known.
a nation founded by white european immigrants for white europeans who wanted to live without kings with a whites only immigration policy until the 1960s. the usa always being a third world melting pot is a politically correct myth.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 08:52:12 PM
[…]

again wrong, if you have the bullet, the bullet maker will produce them, your medieval studies lack in consistence.

your first lesson in neofeudalism?

You place "the chicken" before "the egg."

wrong your lack of expertise in modern supply chain is quite apparent in this post where only the theoretical level is considered. piker. (sorry I like you post, but get back on earth, not your ivory tower).


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: username18333 on March 06, 2015, 08:53:11 PM
[…]

a nation founded by white european immigrants for white europeans who wanted to live without kings with a whites only immigration policy until the 1960s. the usa always being a third world melting pot is a politically correct myth.

Point at “white” (saddampbuh) and you’ll see a genuine myth.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 08:55:43 PM
[…]

a nation founded by white european immigrants for white europeans who wanted to live without kings with a whites only immigration policy until the 1960s. the usa always being a third world melting pot is a politically correct myth.

Point at “white” (saddampbuh) and you’ll see a genuine myth.

he is right, and you are in denial, Asian where able to play it low, which 44 president is from Asian descent? point mute. Game over. thanks for having played, the best of American system can only quote? no expectation. gg. wp. hf.

^edit: usy : it' ain't America there, it's the world wide web... (forget world, who knows...).


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: saddampbuh on March 06, 2015, 08:56:25 PM
Point at “white” (saddampbuh) and you’ll see a genuine myth.

https://i.imgur.com/BJE0kme.jpg


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 08:57:27 PM
Point at “white” (saddampbuh) and you’ll see a genuine myth.

https://i.imgur.com/BJE0kme.jpg

we feed them to kill them, do you know the story of the turkey who became friend with it's butcher... every day the butcher came and feed the turkey... until one day, it was thank giving.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: username18333 on March 06, 2015, 09:00:09 PM
[…]

again wrong, if you have the bullet, the bullet maker will produce them, your medieval studies lack in consistence.

your first lesson in neofeudalism?

You place "the chicken" before "the egg."

wrong your lack of expertise in modern supply chain is quite apparent in this post where only the theoretical level is considered. piker. (sorry I like you post, but get back on earth, not your ivory tower).

Again, it is a matter of incentives, and "paper" (BitMos) procures incentives.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 09:02:08 PM
[…]

again wrong, if you have the bullet, the bullet maker will produce them, your medieval studies lack in consistence.

your first lesson in neofeudalism?

You place "the chicken" before "the egg."

wrong your lack of expertise in modern supply chain is quite apparent in this post where only the theoretical level is considered. piker. (sorry I like you post, but get back on earth, not your ivory tower).

Again, it is a matter of incentives, and "paper" (BitMos) procures incentives.

okay last time. I put a gun in your mouth, the one of your mother and father, sisters and brothers and friends, will you give me (and mfg and what ever) my bullets, you have 36 hours, yes or no, no = death of all that have the guns, don't believe me, fire, guncam next one will get it, let the body on the floors they will melt. next... gg hf. hc is different for legalist or little protégé of education system.

welcome to the street... I tried to be nice, but you never went to the back alley... at night... in the bad part... try to cross 4 block on the midst of the alleys... pikers... you already wet your pants... my USSF have abolutley 0 fear, drunk unarmed with the woman they love... diff between faker (aka poser) and real men. thx for playing. exposed. ignored now.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: username18333 on March 06, 2015, 09:02:35 PM
[…]

You failed to indicate the “white” (saddampbuh) as per the challenge. Can you not point?


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: username18333 on March 06, 2015, 09:04:29 PM
[…]

Again, it is a matter of incentives, and "paper" (BitMos) procures incentives.

okay last time. I put a gun in your mouth, the one of your mother and father, sisters and brothers and friends, will you give me (and mfg and what ever) my bullets, you have 36 hours, yes or no, no = death of all that have the guns, don't believe me, fire, guncam next one will get it, let the body on the floors they will melt. next... gg hf. hc is different for legalist or little protégé of education system.

"[P]aper" (BitMos) could procure the very same fate for the totality of a nation.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: saddampbuh on March 06, 2015, 09:08:54 PM
we feed them to kill them, do you know the story of the turkey who became friend with it's butcher... every day the butcher came and feed the turkey... until one day, it was thank giving.
when the time comes it will hurt us more than it hurts them, this is why it gets left until the last minute when theres no other choice, empathy and remorse are things the lower grade races don't possess as much of


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: username18333 on March 06, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
we feed them to kill them, do you know the story of the turkey who became friend with it's butcher... every day the butcher came and feed the turkey... until one day, it was thank giving.
when the time comes it will hurt us more than it hurts them, this is why it gets left until the last minute when theres no other choice, empathy and remorse are things the lower grade races don't possess as much of

Who constitutes this “us” (saddampbuh)? Who constitutes this “them” (saddampbuh)‽ As of yet, you have not demonstrated the reality (i.e., the non-hyperreal (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/#6)-ness) of your “us” and your “them.”



Quote from: Dr. Gary E. Aylesworth, Eastern Illinois University, Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, 2005 link=http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/#6
Baudrillard presents hyperreality as the terminal stage of simulation, where a sign or image has no relation to any reality whatsoever, but is “its own pure simulacrum” (Baudrillard 1994, 6). The real, he says, has become an operational effect of symbolic processes, just as images are technologically generated and coded before we actually perceive them. This means technological mediation has usurped the productive role of the Kantian subject, the locus of an original synthesis of concepts and intuitions, as well as the Marxian worker, the producer of capital though labor, and the Freudian unconscious, the mechanism of repression and desire. “From now on,” says Baudrillard, “signs are exchanged against each other rather than against the real” (Baudrillard 1993, 7), so production now means signs producing other signs. The system of symbolic exchange is therefore no longer real but “hyperreal.” Where the real is “that of which it is possible to provide an equivalent reproduction,” the hyperreal, says Baudrillard, is “that which is always already reproduced” (Baudrillard 1993, 73). The hyperreal is a system of simulation simulating itself.
(Red colorization mine.)

Quote from: Leo Tolstoy, Tolstoy (1988) by A. N. Wilson, p. 146. link=http://izquotes.com/quote/273222
The truth is that the State is a conspiracy designed not only to exploit, but above all to corrupt its citizens… Henceforth, I shall never serve any government anywhere.

Tribe is hyperreal and begets possession. Possession is real and begets money. Money is hyperreal and begets state. State is real and begets hyperreality.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: saddampbuh on March 06, 2015, 09:30:10 PM
Who constitutes this “us” (saddampbuh)? Who constitutes this “them” (saddampbuh)‽ As of yet, you have not demonstrated the reality (i.e., the non-hyperreal (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/#6)-ness) of your “us” and your “them.”
sure i have, us =white europeans, them = third world savages, now go find a bullshit scientific quote about how race doesnt exist that no one will read and get your post count up more


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: RodeoX on March 06, 2015, 09:30:56 PM
People twenty years from now are going to laugh at the idea of race. In the future everyone will be brown. Black and white will be meaningless as most everyone you meet will be a mix of Asians, Latinos, Caucasians, Africans, etc... The only minority will be whites of European decent.  


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: saddampbuh on March 06, 2015, 09:37:22 PM
People twenty years from now are going to laugh at the idea of race. In the future everyone will be brown. Black and white will be meaningless as most everyone you meet will be a mix of Asians, Latinos, Caucasians, Africans, etc... The only minority will be whites of European decent.  
"the jews used to laugh at us, they arent laughing now" - joseph goebbels. it aint over til its over.

history shows us european intelligence and courage usually overcomes barbarian savagery irrespective of numbers


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 09:37:28 PM
and once dead we said sorry before God, with all our souls, with everything we had and got, what's next? who knows, but not you. and that's already the mightiest of all victory, for the miscreants for a time the dunhya belonged, before gone to be was.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: username18333 on March 06, 2015, 09:39:26 PM
[…]

Who constitutes this “us” (saddampbuh)? Who constitutes this “them” (saddampbuh)‽ As of yet, you have not demonstrated the reality (i.e., the non-hyperreal (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/#6)-ness) of your “us” and your “them.”

[…]
sure i have, us =white europeans, them = third world savages, now go find a bullshit scientific quote about how race doesnt exist that no one will read and get your post count up more

As exemplified in your statement (and your inability to point at “white” [saddampbuh] as per my challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977885.msg10683923#msg10683923)), collective identification requires that “‘signs are exchanged against each other rather than against the real’” (Aylesworth) and, therefore, is an element of the hyperreal not the real.



Code:
#include <iostream>

int main(int argc, char** argv) {
auto white = 0x000000;

std::cout << &white << '\n'; //! output a pointer to (i.e., the address of) “white” (here, a physical block of physical computer memory)
}


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: BitMos on March 06, 2015, 09:43:23 PM
[…]

Who constitutes this “us” (saddampbuh)? Who constitutes this “them” (saddampbuh)‽ As of yet, you have not demonstrated the reality (i.e., the non-hyperreal (http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/postmodernism/#6)-ness) of your “us” and your “them.”

[…]
sure i have, us =white europeans, them = third world savages, now go find a bullshit scientific quote about how race doesnt exist that no one will read and get your post count up more

As exemplified in your statement (and your inability to point at "white" [saddampbuh] as per my challenge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=977885.msg10683923#msg10683923)), collective identification requires that "'signs are exchanged against each other rather than against the real'" (Aylesworth) and, therefore, is an element of the hyperreal not the real.

vomit vomit, confirm my ignore. hf in the void.


Title: Re: ILLEGALS TO RECEIVE $1.7 BILLION IN TAXPAYER FUNDS...
Post by: stevegreer on March 08, 2015, 01:47:50 AM
A nation founded on immigrants, built by immigrants, now trying to close the borders on immigrants and keep it for themselves. Such utter hypocrisy the world has never known.

A nation founded on LEGAL immigrants, built by LEGAL immigrants, now trying to close the borders on ILLEGAL immigrants...

No hypocrisy there, my friend. If someone wants to immigrate to the US, do it LEGALLY and there won't be any problems.