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How many accounts I'm able to have and farm in signature campaigns without doing anything agains't the rules of the forum ? I'm talking about getting full into the sub-forums and start giving a hand and getting some knownledge to myself. Thanks in advice.

There is no limit as to how many accounts you can have/farm. At one point I personally had as many as ~70 accounts, although when you have that many it is very difficult to manage them all without having to resort to spamming.

I would say that if you start to farm much more then 10 or so accounts then you will likely start breaking anti-spam rules if you want them enrolled in any signature campaign or if you want them to have their maximum number of activity points. Having more then that many however would not directly break any forum rules.

As many as you can handle whilst keeping post quality up while avoiding spamming. Keep in mind, the only real way to avoid spamming is to think critically about posts and topics you respond to.

But nowadays the signature campaign is becoming strict to the requirement of enrollment. Some of them don't allow to farm their signiture campaign. And It is difficult to manage to make all the quality posts with so many accounts. I think it depents on how long of your spare time you have got to post them, but not spamming them otherwise you get banned. You should figure out the balance yourself.

As signature campaign managers don't have access to IP, it is easy to join from multiple accounts. If you post in same style, they might catch you.


You are right. Some people still post in a topic and make replies to their posts with their alts. It is still hard but many of them go unseen. Recently, some of the top posters were banned(Madness, marcotheminer etc...). Mods have been more strict and they are doing their job pretty well. IMHO you can be in safe zone if you only have one account and is making on-topic post. To make on-topic posts, SaltySpitoon gave a great advise:


   -MZ

I want to mention that the most strict campaign I have experienced is the Lucky.bit, but their reward is really attractive for farming account. They tracked the bitcoin address of every account who have enrolled or apply to enroll. If bitcoin address are associated with any existing or previous members of the campaign, then they are out.

I see no real problem when I person tries to join signature campaign with 2 accounts. As long as your posts are legit, coherent and are not spammy slush it should be ok. Some signature campaigns do not forbid it at all.

It might not be a problem, especially if they're making decent quality posts, but campaign managers are free to state their own rules though they're only enforceable by them and like others have mentioned very hard to police effectively (though stingle seems to do a good job but that usually down to people being sloppy with their addresses.

You'd be surprised how easy it is. It's just that most managers decide to ignore it as long as the posts are of decent quality.

If they really want to weed out the farmers all you have to do is ask them to create accounts on your site and withdraw from there, but I don't think it's worth the time.

Agreed.


It can also be overcome using VPNs and multiple BTC addresses. Then user can sent BTC from address-2 to few truted sites and withdraw to address-1 from them after 1 or 2 days but not at the same time.

P.S. Taint analysis of addresses would be better but it is hard and most of the managers won't do it.

   -MZ

It wouldnt stop account farming nor sig. campaign cheating since they would just create alot of accounts on their site also, even if you have the
sms requirement to log-in like bit-x, all it takes is 5 minutes googling and that gets bypassed also, same IP protection is even easier than that.

cheers

It's a bit like with securing your account on an exchange or any forum. Each additional obstacle will deter a number of people that would normally abuse the system.
Phone number, VPN, watching your style while at the same time making sure your account doesn't get banned for low quality posts... It's usually not worth the additional money you'd get by having multiple accounts in the same campaign.

Of course you can bypass the phone requirement, but let's not forget that you need the same number to withdraw. If you use a public sms gateway the number is not yours. It can disappear, and your campaign payment along with it. I know you can buy a cheap card, but this way we're getting back to the first part of my post.

When did post quality become a thing?  Have you seen the posts by NotLambChop and the numerous new accounts that seem to follow him around/occasionally post on his behalf?  I actually find myself not checking threads if the last post is by NotLambChop.  I honestly think his paid day job is to deter people from visiting the forums.

Yesterday, I ignored 3-4 new accounts, all seemingly the same person, likely NotLambChop, trolling in the Speculation sub-forum.  It's getting boring fast.

Recently, rules tightened that it was earlier. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=976685.0.


Report them. He will be banned if he is spamming/trolling.


Better to 'ignore' them than not looking the threads. You may loose some of the good posts.


I personally don't like ignoring someone as they will also make some good posts.

   -MZ

even if you can have as a many account as you want, some signature state specifically that you must have only one at any time

wow.peoples are using multiple accounts and also discussing about it

Well... I don't see why not. It is not illegal/against the rules in this case, if you don't spam. Trading accounts are also allowed, if you didn't know that already.

I run a non-Bitcoin web site and use browser fingerprinting (https://panopticlick.eff.org/) to detect the same user using different accounts. They can use VPNs, TOR, proxies, etc. but if they use the same computer/browser they will have the same fingerprint. No need to check IPs, which is useless in many cases anyway, e.g. for some companies if you log in from work 10,000 people share the same IP address.

My results on that website:

I'm using a safari to surf and this should be a very good idea. How is this going to be implanted into websites?

I guess you can have as many accounts as you like but personally i couldn't be fu#ked posting with 2 or more accounts just for the small amount of BTC you receive from signature campaigns.

Maybe you would like to prove a point that you're too scared to say in your main account?

Or maybe you need an alt for trading purposes, but it doesn't really need to be earning from a signature campaign.

Freaking wow!
I checked your site and tested my System , the data it showed about my PC , Really too much.
Any ways to avoid this?

Shouldn't be using an alt account for trading, only reason i can think of for trading with an alt account is to scam someone.

OP said that he wanted accounts to farm signature campaigns, oh and to help people.

I'm sure people will have their own explanation of why they are using an alt for trading, but there's no rule against it. Most trading alts indeed are scammers, but I believe Quickseller is an alt as well. (I mean who would just start posting about selling accounts) Yet he is to date legitimate and he obviously have reasons of why he needed an alt.

+10. Thank you! I didn't know about this! :)


Use different browsers for different accounts. It may solve from detecting your alts.

   -MZ

It will be useful to avoid having same finger print.
What i was asking is how to about sites (like the one just above) to get our data from any of our browsers.

I didn't got you correctly. To avoid fingerprint fetching, see https://panopticlick.eff.org/self-defense.php. You can't really avoid but have some tips there.

To fetch, see https://www.google.co.in/search?q=browser+fingerprint+script

   -MZ

With JavaScript:


Without JavaScript (FF plugin NoScript):


Default Tor:



Disable JavaScript and the only thing left is your OS and your browser version. Both can be faked with additional plug ins.

That's true, and even Mods have confirmed that it isn't limited to creating just one account from a single IP/PC, but they clearly mentioned that all they need is a clean forum without much spam, and so ban hammering is done to such newbie accounts which seem suspicious to them, I mean which they feel are spamming.

I am/was not asking how to be able to about Fingerprint tracing so to avoid being caught as been as the same person But avoiding sites to access my private Data.

Thanks a lot to everyone for the replys. I'm tryng to get back my accounts that were banned due to some " spam " but I'm tryng to get them back and stop the spam. again thanks!

( Is cool using multiple accounts for trading as long as they belong to you, so you can post and generate more on the campeign.. is easy) i had another 4 accounts and they'r banned) :/.

you really shouldn't be posting if any of your accounts were banned for any reason (with the exception to appeal your ban which you are not doing)