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Title: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Possum577 on March 06, 2015, 07:17:41 AM
Perhaps this needs to be in the Beginners section...

Satoshi started Bitcointalk?

The very first topic in the forum is started by Satoshi and talks about Bitcoin 2.0 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0)

Pretty cool!


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: odolvlobo on March 06, 2015, 07:55:05 AM
Perhaps this needs to be in the Beginners section...

Satoshi started Bitcointalk?

The very first topic in the forum is started by Satoshi and talks about Bitcoin 2.0 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0)

Pretty cool!

That's Bitcoin 0.2, not 2.0. Satoshi also registered bitcoin.org.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 06, 2015, 09:07:36 AM
That wasn't first thread in this forum. It was https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.0. Welcoming us to this new forum and it was also posted by Satoshi. :)

That's Bitcoin 0.2, not 2.0. Satoshi also registered bitcoin.org.

He missed first '0'.

   -MZ


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Monetizer on March 06, 2015, 09:08:56 AM
Yes satoshi was the founder of bitcoin as we know it, this includes the forums. It is quite incredible to look back on some of these things in my opinion.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: newIndia on March 06, 2015, 09:43:59 AM
Perhaps this needs to be in the Beginners section...

Satoshi started Bitcointalk?

The very first topic in the forum is started by Satoshi and talks about Bitcoin 2.0 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0)

Pretty cool!

That's Bitcoin 0.2, not 2.0. Satoshi also registered bitcoin.org.

So, the first registering authority of bitcoin.org must have Satoshi's credit card details !!! Is that very difficult for Govt. agencies to find that out ?


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: BadBear on March 06, 2015, 09:57:14 AM
Perhaps this needs to be in the Beginners section...

Satoshi started Bitcointalk?

The very first topic in the forum is started by Satoshi and talks about Bitcoin 2.0 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0)

Pretty cool!

That's Bitcoin 0.2, not 2.0. Satoshi also registered bitcoin.org.

So, the first registering authority of bitcoin.org must have Satoshi's credit card details !!! Is that very difficult for Govt. agencies to find that out ?

Good job, you've successfully found a way to id satoshi that nobody else has thought of in all these years.

He registered it using https://www.anonymousspeech.com/ which allowed for anonymous registering.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Monetizer on March 06, 2015, 10:13:05 AM
Perhaps this needs to be in the Beginners section...

Satoshi started Bitcointalk?

The very first topic in the forum is started by Satoshi and talks about Bitcoin 2.0 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0)

Pretty cool!

That's Bitcoin 0.2, not 2.0. Satoshi also registered bitcoin.org.

So, the first registering authority of bitcoin.org must have Satoshi's credit card details !!! Is that very difficult for Govt. agencies to find that out ?

Good job, you've successfully found a way to id satoshi that nobody else has thought of in all these years.

He registered it using https://www.anonymousspeech.com/ which allowed for anonymous registering.

I hate to be the conspiracy theorist but surely there is more to satoshi than being a simple person, I'm sure he would have made one fault someowhere along the line if he where.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: newIndia on March 06, 2015, 10:16:08 AM
Perhaps this needs to be in the Beginners section...

Satoshi started Bitcointalk?

The very first topic in the forum is started by Satoshi and talks about Bitcoin 2.0 -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=16.0)

Pretty cool!

That's Bitcoin 0.2, not 2.0. Satoshi also registered bitcoin.org.

So, the first registering authority of bitcoin.org must have Satoshi's credit card details !!! Is that very difficult for Govt. agencies to find that out ?

Good job, you've successfully found a way to id satoshi that nobody else has thought of in all these years.

He registered it using https://www.anonymousspeech.com/ which allowed for anonymous registering.

I am not very sure how anonymousspeech operates. For some reason, their site is not opening at my end !!! But, they must have received the payment from Satoshi. So, what if the Govt query them about the source of the payment ? Because, at that time, there was no bitcoin to make anonymous payment.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 06, 2015, 10:28:18 AM
So, the first registering authority of bitcoin.org must have Satoshi's credit card details !!! Is that very difficult for Govt. agencies to find that out ?

Good job, you've successfully found a way to id satoshi that nobody else has thought of in all these years.

He registered it using https://www.anonymousspeech.com/ which allowed for anonymous registering.

I am not very sure how anonymousspeech operates. For some reason, their site is not opening at my end !!! But, they must have received the payment from Satoshi. So, what if the Govt query them about the source of the payment ? Because, at that time, there was no bitcoin to make anonymous payment.

You can overcome by using prepaid anonymous debit cards or similar anonymous services. If you think buying/paying with prepaid debit card is still easy to track, you can buy another prepaid debit card with the current one, buy another with it and so on. But yes, loop hole can be there but it is very hard to go through it.

   -MZ


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Monetizer on March 06, 2015, 10:40:15 AM
So, the first registering authority of bitcoin.org must have Satoshi's credit card details !!! Is that very difficult for Govt. agencies to find that out ?

Good job, you've successfully found a way to id satoshi that nobody else has thought of in all these years.

He registered it using https://www.anonymousspeech.com/ which allowed for anonymous registering.

I am not very sure how anonymousspeech operates. For some reason, their site is not opening at my end !!! But, they must have received the payment from Satoshi. So, what if the Govt query them about the source of the payment ? Because, at that time, there was no bitcoin to make anonymous payment.

You can overcome by using prepaid anonymous debit cards or similar anonymous services. If you think buying/paying with prepaid debit card is still easy to track, you can buy another prepaid debit card with the current one, buy another with it and so on. But yes, loop hole can be there but it is very hard to go through it.

   -MZ

Where I live you can buy one of these without giving a name and the shop has no cameras = Full privacy I guess.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: DeboraMeeks on March 06, 2015, 11:07:44 AM
You can overcome by using prepaid anonymous debit cards or similar anonymous services. If you think buying/paying with prepaid debit card is still easy to track, you can buy another prepaid debit card with the current one, buy another with it and so on. But yes, loop hole can be there but it is very hard to go through it.

   -MZ

Were you talking about Virtual Credit/Debit Cards?
I think their use is still traceable if someone uses it from their own IP address, except if they go for some VPN service to order it.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Monetizer on March 06, 2015, 11:15:39 AM
You can overcome by using prepaid anonymous debit cards or similar anonymous services. If you think buying/paying with prepaid debit card is still easy to track, you can buy another prepaid debit card with the current one, buy another with it and so on. But yes, loop hole can be there but it is very hard to go through it.

   -MZ

Were you talking about Virtual Credit/Debit Cards?
I think their use is still traceable if someone uses it from their own IP address, except if they go for some VPN service to order it.

We can buy prepaid debit cards inside a shop with no traces. So if he did something like this and paid cash I don't know how you could trace him.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on March 06, 2015, 11:19:03 AM
Were you talking about Virtual Credit/Debit Cards?

Both physical and virtual anonymous prepaid debit cards.

I think their use is still traceable if someone uses it from their own IP address, except if they go for some VPN service to order it.

I am pretty sure that Satoshi hasn't accessed via his IP and most of the VPNs only store IP addresses for 24hrs, so his IP would be wiped a few years ago.

   -MZ


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Cult on March 06, 2015, 12:34:59 PM
Is this the first bitcointalk.org topic?
What happened with topic 1,2,3 and 4?

1, 2, and 4 exist in the staff forum. 3 was permanently deleted at some point (it must have contained Satoshi's real name and address).

Haha, and now it's lost forever...


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: DLCseller on March 06, 2015, 01:04:41 PM
Satoshi didnt started BitcoinTalk.theymos did. He's the admin of this forum. Take a look at his profile here->https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35
I hope you now know who's the owner of this forum.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Blazr on March 06, 2015, 01:10:01 PM
I am not very sure how anonymousspeech operates. For some reason, their site is not opening at my end !!! But, they must have received the payment from Satoshi. So, what if the Govt query them about the source of the payment ? Because, at that time, there was no bitcoin to make anonymous payment.

AnonymousSpeech accept cash in the mail and require no customer details.

I am pretty sure that Satoshi hasn't accessed via his IP and most of the VPNs only store IP addresses for 24hrs, so his IP would be wiped a few years ago.

He always used Tor when doing anything in a web browser.

Satoshi didnt started BitcoinTalk.theymos did. He's the admin of this forum. Take a look at his profile here->https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35
I hope you now know who's the owner of this forum.

Not at all. This forum was created by Satoshi and then past down through a few admins and now theymos is the Head Admin here.


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: DLCseller on March 06, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
I am not very sure how anonymousspeech operates. For some reason, their site is not opening at my end !!! But, they must have received the payment from Satoshi. So, what if the Govt query them about the source of the payment ? Because, at that time, there was no bitcoin to make anonymous payment.

AnonymousSpeech accept cash in the mail and require no customer details.

I am pretty sure that Satoshi hasn't accessed via his IP and most of the VPNs only store IP addresses for 24hrs, so his IP would be wiped a few years ago.

He always used Tor when doing anything in a web browser.

Satoshi didnt started BitcoinTalk.theymos did. He's the admin of this forum. Take a look at his profile here->https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35
I hope you now know who's the owner of this forum.

Not at all. This forum was created by Satoshi and then past down through a few admins and now theymos is the Head Admin here.

You got a pretty good point there.Satoshi pass his work to few admins. ;D


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: SpanishSoldier on March 06, 2015, 02:42:02 PM
I am not very sure how anonymousspeech operates. For some reason, their site is not opening at my end !!! But, they must have received the payment from Satoshi. So, what if the Govt query them about the source of the payment ? Because, at that time, there was no bitcoin to make anonymous payment.

AnonymousSpeech accept cash in the mail and require no customer details.

I am pretty sure that Satoshi hasn't accessed via his IP and most of the VPNs only store IP addresses for 24hrs, so his IP would be wiped a few years ago.

He always used Tor when doing anything in a web browser.

Satoshi didnt started BitcoinTalk.theymos did. He's the admin of this forum. Take a look at his profile here->https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=35
I hope you now know who's the owner of this forum.

Not at all. This forum was created by Satoshi and then past down through a few admins and now theymos is the Head Admin here.

You got a pretty good point there.Satoshi pass his work to few admins. ;D

Satoshi, November 22, 2009, 06:04:28 PM - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28

Theymos, February 10, 2010, 06:31:40 PM - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48.msg310#msg310

When the first directly known post was made by Satoshi, Theymos was not around. :)

If u work diligently on making this forum a better place, probably some day Theymos will pass the baton to u too ;)


Title: Re: "Satoshi" started Bitcointalk?
Post by: Hazir on March 06, 2015, 07:07:42 PM
Satoshi is a legend at this point. Being anonymous is a part of his fable. Nothing it as it seems and his sudden disappearance is just another myth surrounding creation of bitcoin. I am just curious how in this day and age nobody was able to track him down.