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Title: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: abyrnes81 on March 06, 2015, 04:32:19 PM
The article:

He 72-year-old star of the Indiana Jones and Star Wars films reported engine failure and crash-landed his vintage plane on a Venice golf course. He was breathing and alert when medics arrived and took him to hospital in a "fair to moderate" condition, a fire department spokesman said. His son Ben, a chef in Los Angeles, later tweeted from the hospital: "Dad is OK. Battered but OK!

Shortly after take-off from Santa Monica Airport, he said he was having engine failure with his 1942 Ryan Aeronautical ST3KR and was making an "immediate return".


More at http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31759873


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: Wilikon on March 06, 2015, 04:43:23 PM



Altenate title: RICH SEMI RETIRED ACTOR ALMOST KILLED BY AIRPLANE TOY CRASHED ON EXCLUSIVE GOLF COURSE


 :)





Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: (oYo) on March 06, 2015, 09:02:17 PM
Glad he's alright.
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Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: Possum577 on March 06, 2015, 11:03:15 PM



Altenate title: RICH SEMI RETIRED ACTOR ALMOST KILLED BY AIRPLANE TOY CRASHED ON EXCLUSIVE GOLF COURSE


 :)





Haha, one correction, I don't think the golf course was exclusive. I've seen pictures, it's right next to the Santa Monica airport, it's surrounded by a very dense neighborhood. It's just a municipal golf course...the exclusive clubs usually aren't located at the foot of an airport runway!


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: Wilikon on March 07, 2015, 01:40:15 AM



Altenate title: RICH SEMI RETIRED ACTOR ALMOST KILLED BY AIRPLANE TOY CRASHED ON EXCLUSIVE GOLF COURSE


 :)





Haha, one correction, I don't think the golf course was exclusive. I've seen pictures, it's right next to the Santa Monica airport, it's surrounded by a very dense neighborhood. It's just a municipal golf course...the exclusive clubs usually aren't located at the foot of an airport runway!


No way Han solo would have chosen to crash his Mini Millennium Falcon on a municipal golf course! Less than 12 parsecs away from the Santa Monica airport? No way!!!!!







Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: Snipe85 on March 07, 2015, 01:57:27 AM
Got to admit I envy him. He's 72 and still sharp enough to fly a plane. Funny that he chose to fly a machine that is probably older than him.
I never fly things made after I was born, just a rule I live by - H. F. :D


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: Possum577 on March 07, 2015, 06:03:57 AM
Got to admit I envy him. He's 72 and still sharp enough to fly a plane. Funny that he chose to fly a machine that is probably older than him.
I never fly things made after I was born, just a rule I live by - H. F. :D

Dude, 72 isn't deathbed time. Being sharp is a function of staying active. The fact that he flies keeps him sharp, not the other way around.


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: BCwinning on March 07, 2015, 06:10:18 AM
I find it pretty sad this was on cnn breaking news.
Another fine example of american media covering fluff and avoiding the real news.


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: cheekychap on March 07, 2015, 07:29:08 AM
Got to admit I envy him. He's 72 and still sharp enough to fly a plane. Funny that he chose to fly a machine that is probably older than him.
I never fly things made after I was born, just a rule I live by - H. F. :D

Well, there is nothing that would stop him from flying planes even if he is at 72 years of age


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on March 07, 2015, 07:51:00 AM
Got to admit I envy him. He's 72 and still sharp enough to fly a plane. Funny that he chose to fly a machine that is probably older than him.
I never fly things made after I was born, just a rule I live by - H. F. :D

Well, there is nothing that would stop him from flying planes even if he is at 72 years of age

Exactly, i know many people in 70s who are more active then i am! Flying a plane is probably like taking a walk as regard mobility.


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: (oYo) on March 07, 2015, 08:37:44 AM
Got to admit I envy him. He's 72 and still sharp enough to fly a plane. Funny that he chose to fly a machine that is probably older than him.
I never fly things made after I was born, just a rule I live by - H. F. :D

Well, there is nothing that would stop him from flying planes even if he is at 72 years of age

Actually, medical examinations are taken at various frequencies, depending upon the age and the license qualification of the person, designed to ensure that they have no problems that would interfere with their ability to fly safely.


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on March 07, 2015, 10:28:39 AM
I am glad he is alright. I am not ready to hear about another movie actor, after hearing about spock this month.

Spock is cool but dont get overly concerned about the death of 1 dude you dont know personally over another :)


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: Agestorzrxx on March 07, 2015, 10:56:07 AM
Sadly, he's reached an age where it's all down hill for him! He's been acquiring injury after injury! Bono better be careful too, once you reach 50, it's all down hill!


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: Spendulus on March 08, 2015, 04:50:09 PM
The article:

He 72-year-old star of the Indiana Jones and Star Wars films reported engine failure and crash-landed his vintage plane on a Venice golf course. He was breathing and alert when medics arrived and took him to hospital in a "fair to moderate" condition, a fire department spokesman said. His son Ben, a chef in Los Angeles, later tweeted from the hospital: "Dad is OK. Battered but OK!

Shortly after take-off from Santa Monica Airport, he said he was having engine failure with his 1942 Ryan Aeronautical ST3KR and was making an "immediate return".


More at http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31759873
A lot of experienced and professional pilots have been killed trying to execute the 180 degree return to airport after takeoff.  Reason is that potential and kinetic energy reserves in the aircraft are not adequate, also split second timing is required to establish best glide speed.  Exception would be high thrust to weight turbo prop aircraft which this certainly was not.

Note he didn't succeed with the 180, looks more like 150 degrees turn.


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: Snail2 on March 08, 2015, 05:00:02 PM
Haha, one correction, I don't think the golf course was exclusive. I've seen pictures, it's right next to the Santa Monica airport, it's surrounded by a very dense neighborhood. It's just a municipal golf course...the exclusive clubs usually aren't located at the foot of an airport runway!

That's a lucky thing. On an exclusive one non-members may not be allowed to crash :).


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: kenbytes on March 08, 2015, 08:29:21 PM
It's a vintage plane. These things happen. He was a good enough pilot to land the thing in what was probably a very short window before disaster.


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: ajareselde on March 08, 2015, 08:42:12 PM
It's a vintage plane. These things happen. He was a good enough pilot to land the thing in what was probably a very short window before disaster.

But why was he piloting a vintage plane? I doubt he cant make better with the money hes got. Maybe he overestimated his abilities, doubt he would do something like that just because he wants publicity.

"an absolutely beautifully executed emergency landing by an unbelievably well-trained pilot".
It seams that he picked up a thing or two from all the movies he made, nice.

"After crash-landing, Ford was initially treated by doctors who happened to be at the golf course."
Perks of being a movie star, you cant even crash land without help 100 feet away :)

cheers


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: (oYo) on March 08, 2015, 09:00:34 PM
It's a vintage plane. These things happen. He was a good enough pilot to land the thing in what was probably a very short window before disaster.

But why was he piloting a vintage plane? I doubt he cant make better with the money hes got. Maybe he overestimated his abilities, doubt he would do something like that just because he wants publicity.

"an absolutely beautifully executed emergency landing by an unbelievably well-trained pilot".
It seams that he picked up a thing or two from all the movies he made, nice.

"After crash-landing, Ford was initially treated by doctors who happened to be at the golf course."
Perks of being a movie star, you cant even crash land without help 100 feet away :)

cheers

LOL! Doctors just HAPPENED to be there. THAT'S A GOOD ONE. I'll bet a great majority of golf course members are doctors.
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Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: abyrnes81 on March 08, 2015, 10:19:56 PM
The article:

He 72-year-old star of the Indiana Jones and Star Wars films reported engine failure and crash-landed his vintage plane on a Venice golf course. He was breathing and alert when medics arrived and took him to hospital in a "fair to moderate" condition, a fire department spokesman said. His son Ben, a chef in Los Angeles, later tweeted from the hospital: "Dad is OK. Battered but OK!

Shortly after take-off from Santa Monica Airport, he said he was having engine failure with his 1942 Ryan Aeronautical ST3KR and was making an "immediate return".


More at http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31759873
A lot of experienced and professional pilots have been killed trying to execute the 180 degree return to airport after takeoff.  Reason is that potential and kinetic energy reserves in the aircraft are not adequate, also split second timing is required to establish best glide speed.  Exception would be high thrust to weight turbo prop aircraft which this certainly was not.

Note he didn't succeed with the 180, looks more like 150 degrees turn.

I know that that "the 180 degree return" is so risky, If someone wants to do it then he should first be an expert.


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: waterpile on March 08, 2015, 11:23:22 PM
Daym, Glad it didn't killed him. He is one of my favorite actors :(


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: Spendulus on March 09, 2015, 01:53:36 AM
The article:

He 72-year-old star of the Indiana Jones and Star Wars films reported engine failure and crash-landed his vintage plane on a Venice golf course. He was breathing and alert when medics arrived and took him to hospital in a "fair to moderate" condition, a fire department spokesman said. His son Ben, a chef in Los Angeles, later tweeted from the hospital: "Dad is OK. Battered but OK!

Shortly after take-off from Santa Monica Airport, he said he was having engine failure with his 1942 Ryan Aeronautical ST3KR and was making an "immediate return".


More at http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-31759873
A lot of experienced and professional pilots have been killed trying to execute the 180 degree return to airport after takeoff.  Reason is that potential and kinetic energy reserves in the aircraft are not adequate, also split second timing is required to establish best glide speed.  Exception would be high thrust to weight turbo prop aircraft which this certainly was not.

Note he didn't succeed with the 180, looks more like 150 degrees turn.

I know that that "the 180 degree return" is so risky, If someone wants to do it then he should first be an expert.
No. 

Ford is lucky to be alive.   

There are risk factors involved that go beyond the capacity of skill and experience.

However, if any pilot wants to test this (or anyone, for that matter, with Flight Simulator) it can be done by starting at a maneuvering altitude such as 4000 feet.  Then climb in takeoff configuration, and on a random altitude less than, +1500-2000 feet above the 4000, cutting the engine, establishing best glide configuration, and execute the 180.

Success or failure is simply a matter as of whether the resulting altitude is high or lower than 4000 feet.


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: doggieTattoo on March 09, 2015, 02:09:38 AM
Well, if everyone is opposed to my 70 year old grandma driving a car, but mr Harrison ford gets a pass when it comes to flying an airplane, I suppose it is only fair.  Being real though, he shouldn't be flying anymore without someone experienced with him


Title: Re: Harrison Ford injured in plane crash
Post by: prodigy8 on March 09, 2015, 04:30:15 AM
Tough year for Harrison Ford. Just recently he fractured his knee on the set of Episode 7 and now this