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WINTER PARK, Fla. – A Florida parent was forced to take drastic measures when her public school refused to release her child during a dispute over standardized testing.

Jacqui Myers says another mother with a child at Winter Park’s Brookshire Elementary School called her after she arrived at the school to opt her fifth-grade daughter out of standardized testing related to the Common Core national standards initiative.

“They’re not giving me my child, can you help?” the mother told Myers.

Myers, the mother of a first grader, is active in a group working to opt children out of state tests and was at the school counseling parents.

She called 911 to report that the school wouldn’t release the child.

The school told the mother they did not want to release the child because she was in the middle of testing. But when police arrived, the school relented and turned her over.



http://eagnews.org/parent-calls-911-after-public-school-refuses-to-release-child/

School does not have higher authority over children than parents have. It does not matter if child is during 'testing' or not if Parent is asking for his child it is his/her law. That is my opinion.

I agree, I think she has the right to take her child out of the testing if she wants and should be allowed to take them home or w/e.
Did we find out what happened in the end?

I find that this is strange that a school will not let their child go during a test upon the request of the parents, is this happening everywhere in the USA and it needs a call on 911 to help sort the issue out?

This happened in the end: But when police arrived, the school relented and turned her over.
And they lived happily ever after ;)

The cops reminded the school employees the mother has the right to take her kid anytime she wants. Anyway the story is ridiculous. What if something came up like the father had an accident and she came to take the kid to the hospital? "Sorry your kid is taking a test and can't leave" -  FU!

What laws?

The school told the mother they did not want to release the child because she was in the middle of testing. But when police arrived, the school relented and turned her over.

Myers tells the Orlando Sentinel that emails from school administrators stated that “releasing students during testing would be disruptive and not be allowed.”

But after the incident, a school spokesman denied such a policy existed.

“We do not hold children if parents come to pick them up,” Shari Bobinski says, according to the paper.

The opt out movement has sprouted up across the country in the last year amid concerns the federally funded standardized tests are collecting personal data on students beyond how well they’re reading and writing.



If you bark loud enough they melt away.

I love these redundant replies to boost post counts for sig ads. /sarcasm

Schools are supposed to have security protocols that prevent unauthorized adults (kidnapper strangers or parents without custody rights) from removing children from school. But if those protocols are followed and an authorized adult is still not allowed to take their child, then it makes the school officials criminally liable IMO, but IANAL.

911 can be a way to have a LEO peacefully resolve the situation, assuming they are not fed a line of bullshit by dispatch that the unarmed, non-violent adult actually is, and they don't shoot them under color of law instead.

MOΛΩN ΛABE!

 :D

When I was in school, my old man came to get me due to an emergency. This was well before cell phones. The school told him they wouldn't let me out of class. Old man pushed his way through the school people, went into the room and got me himself. School threatened to call police. Old man suggested they call a lawyer instead, and prepare to defend against kidnapping lawsuit.

You're misunderstanding what happened. The school WASN'T following the laws, which is why the parent called 911, to get the police to enforce the laws.

simple

1) you are a " normal mother " your kids belong to the gov in America (they are cattlelike to be slaughter in peace - Georgia guide stone - pre conditioning)

2) you are among the institutional gang (usmiic) you tell nicely the school administrative that they will all lose everything (drone strike, targeted assassination etc), you can WIN back your children

3) you are among the ctrl+p etc, no joke, it's a private school, who cares, you pay, you are "free".

(in the public school too, but the public "servant" forget it there, they are the "guide" of your children).


and if the law tells you that the children must be vaccinated you surrender to the laws? remember according to the law of the land gmo are legal, plants of the creation illegal.

Aren't the parents worried about falling out with the school management?
After all, the kid has to continue to go to the same school.....

In the US, I think schools can't really take any such actions, as they have to stick to the laws.
And doing anything as such, would probably bring more legal problems on them.

Any child with a registered birth certificate is property of the county in which they were born, and therefore property of the state. This is how CPS can take your children from you with no due process or legal recourse on your part. The state is just deciding now that children should openly be treated as property of the state in stead of allowing parents to believe they have rights to their children. The USA is diving headfirst into Marxism.

not for the children of the USMIIC... no cps on earth can take away the kids of mr brennan (ceo of the cia). or try and see...

(disclaimer for foreigners, it may end up in tactical nukes being deployed and activated, just to show you the spirit and not take useless risks).

Sounds like the school management would punish the kid for political reasons, and not based on his grades? Can't be!

 8)

Do you actually believe this or are you using hyperbole to make a point?

In Real Life (unless you are with your local MIIC) it's how it may end up working, hedge accordingly.

I dont understand whats the big fuss about, couldnt the mother just wait for the testing  to be over and then take her child ?
Its doubtful that school would refuse to give her the child, maybe they just wanted the class to finish ? And why were there no other parents with this problem, but only her?
I know alot of parents from my daughters school, and some of them are half-insane when it comes to their kids, so it would be the best not to judge this story without hearing what other side has to say.

cheers

The story is about the kid going through common core. The parent was not going for it. If you want to know about common core take a look at the (funny or sad) image in the first post or Google "common core stress disorder"

The birth certificate is literally the creation of a corporate entity known as a person, not to be confused with a human being. By registering your child as a person you enter into a contract with the state under which you voluntarily submit to their regulation and jurisdiction under UCC maritime law. It is a fact of contract law. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is a corporation, a for profit entity, so is CPS. Beliefs have nothing to do with it.

That's why the name of your strawman is in all caps, just like a corporation.
Meet Your Strawman! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ME7K6P7hlko)

Can you provide any shred of credibility to any of these notions besides your word?

Here are some sources that offer more detailed information on the subject.
http://www.cyberclass.net/strawman.htm
http://www.yourstrawman.com/Strawman.pdf
The Freeman and Strawman Explained  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptHQu68MdMs)

Do searches for UCC, Maritime Law, contract law, birth certificate bond, etc. I don't care to waste my time trying to spoon feed people because this is a complicated subject not everyone is able (or willing) to grasp. I have been studying it for years and I still have but a superficial understanding of it compared to some people. I suggest you do your own research. If you are really interested in learning about it the information is out there.

People have assumed for many generations that they are ruled by common law, but maritime contract law has usurped pretty much everything because they have found ways to use legalese to trick people into submitting to contracts under color of common law. Think for a moment about all the contracts you sign with your government (aka a corporation), your birth certificate, your social security, taxes, your drivers license, obamacare, any kind of assistance, etc. Each of these is a transaction and an exchange whith responsibilities as well as benefits attached.  If something can be turned into a exchange of value, they can put any abomination into writing as long as you voluntarily agree to it, you are bound to it by international contract law because it takes the form of a commercial exchange.

The point being she didn't want her kid taking the test.  Standardized testing is a joke, I wish more parents would opt their kids out of it.

The picture was a poor example. I've seen some crazy common core methods I disagree with, but what was wrong with this? Do the addition and then make an estimate to see if the answer is reasonable. I suspect the picture is being misrepresented as the students estimate being good enough for an answer.

I use the procedure all the time when deriving equations. Solve the equation and run test cases, (0, infinity, etc), to see if its reasonable. If the mass of the  object comes out to 10^30, there's a mistake. This is the same as using 3 for pi for mental estimates. Its close enough.

Can you link an image of the test the kid was doing in that story? I'll update the first post. If not then that image is good enough.

Good enough for what? Not making your point. There are countless poor examples online,
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/13601528945_437c1d896c.jpg

If you argument is common core is bad, which I agree with partially, then I'm doing you a favour.

If your argument is the child not being released from school, that has nothing to do with math.

How do we know the kid was taking only a math test? I did not know common core was ONLY encompassing math, not including geography, history, arts, etc...

http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/


For such an image to inspire so much writings makes me believe it was the right choice to illustrate that article...

 ;)

http://www.youngcons.com/beyond-disturbing-look-at-what-a-common-core-approved-book-is-teaching-children-about-barack-obama/

I don't disagree with anything in the book. Thank the flying spaghetti monster I don't live in your fucked up country.

http://www.salon.com/2014/07/29/secrets_of_the_right_wing_brain_new_study_proves_it_conservatives_see_a_different_hostile_world/

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/millennial-media/201304/do-racism-conservatism-and-low-iq-go-hand-in-hand

Among the many misdeeds of sociopathic rule in the US, history will look upon Obama convincing a whole nation that he was black as the whitest.

If a 30-year-old had never seen a photo/video of, or heard a US president speak, they could reasonably infer from their actions that we've had the same sociopathic president for the past 3 decades.

My state just got added for common core. I have watched videos of it, and it seems to be making kids dumber. I can see why the parent wants the school to release her child because she probably wants her child to know of the presidents of the United States or the states itself. Stupid common core.

What was wrong with common core anyway? I hate government in many area but at this, I think they're doing a reasonable job.

If the mother doesn't like the kid doing common core, she should have picked a different school.

I thought the whole point of the Common in Common Core was that it was supposed to be universal, as in you cannot escape it in any U.S. school once it is fully rolled out. If so, that argument is like saying "Don't like the .gov tyranny in the US? Move to Somalia and accept the tyranny of Somalia.gov!"

This story is a perfect example of the turd in the punch bowl. I researched the story and, whether you agree with the mother or not, she is a trouble maker. If everyone acted like her, you would see a world that looked like a DT comment board.

Yes. I agree with you: pushing common core and that terrible terrible 0bama book on children is... Terrible!

Enjoy all your Hollywood block buster movies and TV series, with a nice chilled glass of coke , while surfing facebook on your macbook, from wherever you are...




 
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Public schools perhaps. Does common core also apply to private/charter/home schooling?

http://www.hslda.org/commoncore/topic7.aspx

7. Will the Common Core impact homeschools and private schools?

For now, the Common Core applies only to public schools in the 45 states that have adopted it. Federal law, under 20 U.S.C. § 7886, prohibits any federal education mandates from applying to private schools that do not receive federal funds or homeschools.

However, there is no such protection for families who have enrolled their children in programs that receive federal funds, especially those who are using virtual charter schools that are run through the local public school for their home education.

Though the specific provisions of the Common Core only directly bind public schools, it is reasonably predictable that private schools that accept federal funding (through the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act, for example) may face a decision between foregoing federal funding and accepting the Common Core standards in the near future. Moreover, President Obama intends to condition funding from Title I of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act on states’ agreement to follow common standards “developed by a state-led consortium.”1 There is no reason to expect that private schools who receive Title I funding would not have to agree to this mandate.

The current impact of the Common Core on home and private education is revealed in the expanding state longitudinal databases, shifting college admissions expectations, newly updated curricula, and revised standardized tests. All these are fulfilling education historian Diane Ravitch’s prediction that “no one will escape [the Common Core’s] reach, whether they attend public or private school.”2

Perhaps the most immediate threat to homeschool and private school students is the expansion of statewide longitudinal databases. The designers of the new systems fully intend for homeschool and private school students to be part of the massive data collection. At the National Conference on Student Assessment in 2011, officials from Oklahoma explained to CCSSO how the challenge of meeting the data requirements of federal and state education policies are motivating them to “Include student groups not now included (e.g., home-schooled) in the data system.”3

In light of the growing revelations that the government is engaging in massive invasion of privacy in spheres other than education, it is utterly impossible to believe that these databases will not be mined and misused to serve the ulterior purposes of a centralized government intent on growing its own power. For more information on the growing possibility of a national database, please see http://www.hslda.org/docs/news/2013/201309100.asp.

Apart from the databases, we fear that the Common Core will eventually impact homeschool and private school students by affecting college admissions standards. Institutions of higher education are being pressured to adapt their standards for college readiness to the Common Core standards. The National Governors Association, instrumental in writing the Common Core, compiled a guide for states to use while implementing the Common Core. The document emphasizes that the Common Core standards for college readiness will be used by institutions of higher learning to determine whether a student is ready to enroll in a postsecondary course.4 Achieve, one of the main organizations evaluating the Common Core, even exhorts institutions of higher education to revise their curricula to create “seamless transitions” from K–12 to postsecondary schools.5

This concern is being realized in multiple states, including Illinois. In a 2012 policy brief, the Illinois State Board of Education emphasized the need to seamlessly connect high school and college education by streamlining the curriculum taught to high school seniors and college freshmen according to the Common Core.6 Though Illinois encouraged state universities to share with state high schools what kind of material students will be expected to know in their first year of college, nothing indicates that homeschools or private schools would be privy to the same information. This movement to standardize post-secondary academic standards reveals that the Common Core’s emphases and methods will permeate American education beyond elementary and secondary public schools.

The final area of concern for homeschoolers is that national and other popular standardized tests across the country are being rewritten to be aligned to the Common Core. David Coleman, the president of the College Board, was one of the primary authors of the Common Core English language arts standards. He is overseeing the renovation of both the PSAT and the SAT to fully implement the Common Core.7 The redesigned PSAT will be used in 2015; the new SAT will debut in 2016. 8 Questions are being added to the ACT to reflect the Common Core’s emphasis on tracing ideas through multiple texts and increased focus on statistics. The ACT will also contain optional open-ended questions to assess students’ ability to explain and support their claims.8 The latest version of the Iowa Test of Basic Skills is based on the Common Core.10 The GED has been redesigned for the first time since 2002 to incorporate “practices and skills from the Common Core State Standards for Mathematical Practice.”11 Writers of the GED explain that they decided to revise the test now because “The shift to the Common Core standards is happening nationwide at the current time.”12

The alignment of standardized tests with the Common Core may not seem alarming, because homeschool students consistently score much higher on standardized assessments than public school students. However, as information about the content of newly designed curriculum begins to surface, it is becoming clear that the Common Core’s focus on informational texts makes it easy to accentuate particular schools of thought.

Students taking the redesigned SAT, ACT, or the Iowa Tests could soon encounter progressive ideologies including social engineering and alternative lifestyles. As Common Core expert Dr. Mary Brynes reminds us, "people who control the standards and control the assessments—the assessments are the key—they control education."13 If private or homeschool students are not adherents to the Common Core, they could find themselves at a significant disadvantage come test time.

The Stanford 10 Achievement Tests have not been changed to reflect the Common Core. 14 Pearson Assessments, the publisher of the Stanford 10 Achievement Tests, did announce that the English language arts assessment was 100% aligned to the Common Core without revision. The mathematics assessment was 98.5% aligned. But parents wishing to avoid traces of the Common Core in standardized tests should still consider this examination an excellent option.

Another good subject started by wilikon.

Looks like the retail industry is prepping for the impacts of the common core math program:

http://www.jsmineset.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/clip_image002_thumb3.jpg

The first thing I thought when looking at some of the curriculum is that the common core math program is designed to make as many of our citizens as possible be terrified mathematics and completely dependent on 'those who are considered expert' to do even the most trivial of estimates.

But that's 3... hands..  :o