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Title: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: camereye on March 09, 2015, 07:50:14 PM Bitcoin could offer an interesting and maybe scary possibility in the future: micro-payments from machine to machine with no human interactions.
A powerful IA could interact with other machines and pay directly other machines for services like computing power, repair assistance, energy furniture, big data access and so on.... This IA could also hire real humans to do theses tasks. It would be the first interaction of an autonomous computer with the real world. When I was a teen, it was science fiction 10 years ago, I thought that I will have maybe a chance to see it at the end of my life (I am 39) Now, I am quite sure that it will happen in the 15 years. ... ::) Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: Nautica on March 09, 2015, 07:51:57 PM Absolutely. Software-to-software payments will be a huge part of crypto. I suspect they will in fact overtake human payments in terms of frequency.
Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: ebliever on March 09, 2015, 07:54:06 PM I actually like this idea. I look forward to the day when a box of detergent shows up at our door without our prior involvement, because the dishwasher was running low and it went out and used a pricing service to find the cheapest vendor and ordered more (using our pre-set account) to replenish itself. If the inevitable glitches are manageable, this sort of thing could free us from a lot of day-to-day drudgery.
Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: Possum577 on March 09, 2015, 08:02:53 PM Wow, you just described the funding for machine to machine interaction. You just defined the funding for the Internet of Things. Wow, things are about to get really entertaining in the technology and business world...can't wait.
Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: Morecoin Freeman on March 09, 2015, 08:33:19 PM I actually like this idea. I look forward to the day when a box of detergent shows up at our door without our prior involvement, because the dishwasher was running low and it went out and used a pricing service to find the cheapest vendor and ordered more (using our pre-set account) to replenish itself. If the inevitable glitches are manageable, this sort of thing could free us from a lot of day-to-day drudgery. That would be awesome.Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: ebliever on March 09, 2015, 08:51:00 PM I actually like this idea. I look forward to the day when a box of detergent shows up at our door without our prior involvement, because the dishwasher was running low and it went out and used a pricing service to find the cheapest vendor and ordered more (using our pre-set account) to replenish itself. If the inevitable glitches are manageable, this sort of thing could free us from a lot of day-to-day drudgery. That would be awesome.Especially when the robo-butler takes the package and loads it into the dishwasher without bothering us about it. ;) Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: camereye on March 09, 2015, 09:12:11 PM There will be probably a very agressive liberalism competition between these machines. My fridge will probably have to negociate between different providers for the delivery of my french cheese.
If my fridge appreciate the service, he could eventually pay a tip to the drone for the fast delivery. This drone will use all the tips to customise himself to be faster, or buy a new radar system... Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: camereye on March 09, 2015, 09:18:46 PM All these machines will obey to one simple rule : make money.
To achieve this goal, machine will use an AI to adapt and find new stragedies to be competitive. Quickly, these machines will have to modify themself and use a percentage of their bitcoin wallet to buy more AI, new features and so on... (Sorry for my english, I need to buy an Babel-fish implant) Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: camereye on March 09, 2015, 09:24:46 PM Like in real world, some machine will have to go into debt and will deal with a bank computer that offer some bitcoins with a percentage per year.
But what if, my fridge makes a bad choice and can t repaiy the bitcoin-bank server ? This computer will need a computer justice with computer bailiffs, botcops, computers lawyers.... Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: pozmu on March 09, 2015, 09:27:12 PM You could imagine bitcoin factory that would use mined bitcoins to pay electricity /rent fees and order new miners to mine more coins etc.
But you don't really need bitcoins for that, I read about self-replicating machines and automatic factories long before Bitcoin, modern banking system with international money transfers is enough for that. Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: R2D221 on March 09, 2015, 09:28:37 PM If my fridge appreciate the service, he could eventually pay a tip to the drone for the fast delivery. That would require consciousness, and I doubt a conscious fridge would enjoy just sitting there freezing things. Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: camereye on March 09, 2015, 11:05:02 PM If my fridge appreciate the service, he could eventually pay a tip to the drone for the fast delivery. That would require consciousness, and I doubt a conscious fridge would enjoy just sitting there freezing things. Right. This fridge will try to expand, and pay other fridges to do the job for him Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: camereye on March 09, 2015, 11:07:26 PM If my fridge appreciate the service, he could eventually pay a tip to the drone for the fast delivery. That would require consciousness, and I doubt a conscious fridge would enjoy just sitting there freezing things. Right. This fridge will try to expand, and pay other fridges to do the job for him And it must be very frustrating for this fridge to be perpetually empty by humans...this could create resentment Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: camereye on March 09, 2015, 11:12:21 PM You could imagine bitcoin factory that would use mined bitcoins to pay electricity /rent fees and order new miners to mine more coins etc. Full autonomous ecosystem. No need for humans anymore...Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: Script on March 09, 2015, 11:18:22 PM When our robot overlords take over it will not be a war like in Terminator, it will be an economic war, they will control all the money and all industries. :)
Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: odolvlobo on March 09, 2015, 11:51:45 PM Look up Distributed Autonomous Organization (http://distributed autonomous organisation)
Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: Bit_Happy on March 09, 2015, 11:56:46 PM I actually like this idea. I look forward to the day when a box of detergent shows up at our door without our prior involvement, because the dishwasher was running low and it went out and used a pricing service to find the cheapest vendor and ordered more (using our pre-set account) to replenish itself. If the inevitable glitches are manageable, this sort of thing could free us from a lot of day-to-day drudgery. Privacy is a huge issue with "smart appliances", but otherwise that type of thing is truly exciting. Title: Re: An dizzying use of bitcoin... Post by: ajareselde on March 10, 2015, 12:12:05 AM The idea of AI interaction become real with that simple AI project igod, and its still alive if u want to check it.
Machine to machine comunication already exists, but not at a conscious level ofc, but with time it may develop to something that will imitate it wee enough. I for one think its nothing to be afraid of, maybe it could actually help us fix the mess we have created, and transactions between computers, well why not ? Saving us the time doing things that we would do anyway,much like bots curently, i dont see the problem there, because there will always be limits to what they are allowed to do. cheers |