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Title: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 02:06:45 PM
We on our ways fellas...

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Quote
For the past year and a half, a Silicon Valley startup has quietly convinced some of the biggest names in venture capital to back its effort to turn the technology behind bitcoin into a mass-marketed phenomenon.

Now, that company, which bears the name 21 Inc., is emerging from stealth to announce it has raised $116 million in venture funding, the most ever by a startup in the digital-currency sector, based on data from bitcoin news service Coindesk.

What it’s not yet publicizing is the precise nature of its operations, Chief Executive and co-founder Matthew Pauker will only say there will be “several interesting developments over the next weeks and months” about software and hardware products designed “to drive mainstream adoption of bitcoin.”

Since its launch six years ago by a mysterious coder who used the presumed pseudonym of Satoshi Nakamoto, bitcoin has drawn media attention as a wildly volatile digital currency. But amid stories of scandal, theft and turbulent prices, the general public has largely ignored the arguments of vocal supporters, who tout the digital currency’s potential to cut costs by removing middlemen from finance and commerce.

According to Silicon Valley investors such as those taking stakes in 21, say that failure to gain mass adoption is partly because the public’s attention has been misguidedly focused on bitcoin’s limited potential as a digital alternative to traditional currencies. In reality, they say, its underlying technology has far wider applications than that. Unlike the currency transactions that are generally associated with bitcoin, these new uses could range from lawyer-free smart contracts to tamper-proof online voting systems.

21’s lead investors include U.S. venture-capital heavyweights Andreessen Horowitz and RRE Ventures, along with Chinese private-equity firm Yuan Capital, with a strategic stake going to chipmaker Qualcomm Inc.QCOM +0.49% through its venture-capital unit.

Additionally, Khosla Ventures and Data Collective have invested in 21, as well as chief executives and founders from various tech companies, including PayPal co-founders Peter Thiel and Max Levchin, eBay Inc. co-founder Jeff Skoll, Dropbox Inc. CEO Drew Houston, Expedia Inc. CEO Dara Khosrowshahi and Zynga Inc. co-founder Mark Pincus.

Mr. Pauker said Qualcomm’s involvement is key. He hopes to exploit the Bridgewater, N.J., chipmaker’s mass-marketing and production capabilities in the development of a suite of consumer products that integrate with bitcoin’s core technology called the “blockchain.” This technology takes the form of a public, digital ledger that’s maintained by a decentralized network of thousands of independently owned computers.

Qualcomm’s involvement could spur speculation that 21 has its sights on the so-called “Internet of Things.” That’s the idea that a myriad of smart, Internet-connected appliances will in the future communicate with servers, networks and each other to optimize their operation, maintenance and energy usage without direct human involvement.

Some developers believe that bitcoin technology could play a key role in transparently managing the vast flow of information generated by these smart gadgets. The decentralized blockchain ledgers are free from the control of any one party, so smart appliances can in theory connect with computers built by other entities safely without worrying that the information was manipulated.

Starting out under the earlier name of 21e6, the company – which takes its name from the 21-million limit that bitcoin’s managing algorithm imposes on the total number of bitcoins to be released – spurred intense speculation in November 2013, when a regulatory filing revealed a $5 million fundraise.

Members of the bitcoin community speculated about a secret vehicle for Silicon Valley elites to develop high-powered equipment that could dominate bitcoin mining. Mr. Pauker’s comments about a consumer focus suggest that isn’t where the company has ended up.

The initial secrecy around 21 was “solely for pragmatic reasons – we didn’t have anything to say to the world,” – says co-founder Balaji Srinivasan, who is also a partner at Andreessen Horowitz. He compares 21’s work in building bitcoin products for the general public to the sequential development of 56-kilobit Internet modems, international fiber cables and wireless Internet towers, which all helped bring the Internet into people’s homes in the late 1990s.

This notion also has parallels with the mass Internet appeal achieved in the 1990s by the development of the Netscape browser by Marc Andreessen, a co-founder of Mr. Srinivasan’s firm. Asked for his views on 21, Mr. Andreessen said it “is working on what they — and we — consider to be core infrastructure for mainstreaming bitcoin.”

21’s announcement extends this year’s upswing in venture capitalists’ digital-currency investments, highlighted by January’s $75 million fundraising for San Francisco-based bitcoin wallet provider Coinbase Inc., whose investors include the New York Stock Exchange. Bitcoin-focused venture capital more than tripled to $347 million in 2014 from a year earlier, according Coindesk.

The money flow is paving the way for products and services aimed at transitioning bitcoin from its volatile, Wild West beginnings into an era of more secure infrastructure and mass appeal.

A week after its funding announcement, Coinbase unveiled the first licensed U.S bitcoin currency exchange. Later, high-tech security company BitGo Inc. launched a unique insurance program, while the New York-based Digital Currency Group’s Bitcoin Investment Trust earned regulatory approval to become the first publicly offered fund dedicated to owning bitcoin.

Well-funded custodial and financial services companies Xapo Ltd. and Circle Internet Financial Ltd. have also developed high-tech security and insurance projects. Meanwhile, San Francisco startup BitFury Holding BV has launched new, high-powered chips to take bitcoin mining to a new level of intensity.

None of this will matter if bitcoin doesn’t achieve mass adoption, says Mr. Pauker.

“Bitcoin is going to change the way that people and businesses and even machines interact with each other,” he says. “But for bitcoin to realize that vision we need mass adoption. It can’t just be for Silicon Valley.”

This is great under the radar news, mainly because only the silicon valley giants really know what 21 is all about.

Knowing that so many brilliant people and companies are supporting and investing in this secretive company is going to be truly ground breaking.

Can't wait to see what type of smart appliances or gadgets 21 comes up with, that will get the masses flocking to get a peek at this new Bitcoin centric tech.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: L on March 10, 2015, 02:24:55 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 02:29:01 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yup, more than the NYSE/BBVA one for $75mill.  Some how I get the feeling it's not garnering the press it deserves, but at least Barry is Retweeting it!!   8)

https://twitter.com/barrysilbert/status/575294815560167425

https://i.imgur.com/qUpMORd.png


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: futureofbitcoin on March 10, 2015, 02:31:25 PM
Very interesting. I would like to know more about exactly what it is they're trying/planning to do.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 10, 2015, 02:39:25 PM
Yippee, more big corporate money aiming blockchain technology into a web of regulation and control while the little guys sit in federal prison cells for trading Bitcoin.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 02:39:59 PM
Very interesting. I would like to know more about exactly what it is they're trying/planning to do.

With Qualcomm in the mix, one could gather some sort of "smart" devices that utilize Bitcoin Blockchain tech.  Maybe wallets, maybe point of sale, maybe NFC devices, maybe vending machines, maybe everyday appliances.

The cool part is the brilliant people involved.  The people that founded PayPal and Ebay and Netscape Navigator and Dropbox and Expedia and Zynga...this all isn't by accident.   :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 02:42:17 PM
Yippee, more big corporate money aiming blockchain technology into a web of regulation and control while the little guys sit in federal prison cells for trading Bitcoin.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Maybe tell those dudes to grab a money transmitter license like they're supposed to.   :P

J/K, we're still in the Wild Wild West phase of Bitcoin, shit happens, people go down when your trying to build something.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 10, 2015, 02:49:14 PM
Yippee, more big corporate money aiming blockchain technology into a web of regulation and control while the little guys sit in federal prison cells for trading Bitcoin.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Maybe tell those dudes to grab a money transmitter license like they're supposed to.   :P

J/K, we're still in the Wild Wild West phase of Bitcoin, shit happens, people go down when your trying to build something.

I'll let BurtW know if the federal government ever lets us talk to him again.

When Bitcoin becomes MasterCard I'll move on to something else. There are lots of federally regulated investment opportunities in the wild. Bitcoin is unnecessary for that purpose.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: kwukduck on March 10, 2015, 02:55:38 PM
This may seem like a big deal for bitcoin, however, it's not.
They will use the blockchain technology for their own products and leave bitcoin hanging in the cold.
Don't expect this to be relevant to the bitcoin economy.
Interesting startup though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 02:58:58 PM
Yippee, more big corporate money aiming blockchain technology into a web of regulation and control while the little guys sit in federal prison cells for trading Bitcoin.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Maybe tell those dudes to grab a money transmitter license like they're supposed to.   :P

J/K, we're still in the Wild Wild West phase of Bitcoin, shit happens, people go down when your trying to build something.

I'll let BurtW know if the federal government ever lets us talk to him again.

When Bitcoin becomes MasterCard I'll move on to something else. There are lots of federally regulated investment opportunities in the wild. Bitcoin is unnecessary for that purpose.

It sucks what happened to BurtW, but please let's not drag that into this thread.

Bitcoin will never become MasterCard, Bitcoin isn't a company or Financial Institution.

This isn't an either or situation.  You can't have Bitcoin thrive or survive, and no one pays the bills to keep the lights on and electricity running.

Even Linux wouldn't be where it is today without Android OS which is owned by Google, probably the largest centralized force in the universe.

Need to play both sides of the coin to be viable, there's no hard stance needed to be taken.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 03:05:20 PM
This may seem like a big deal for bitcoin, however, it's not.
They will use the blockchain technology for their own products and leave bitcoin hanging in the cold.
Don't expect this to be relevant to the bitcoin economy.
Interesting startup though.

I mean I don't see any negative at all, this is beneficial to all parties involved, especially to the Bitcoin economy.

How do you expect to get Bitcoin "the idea running", if no one's running it.  That's like saying it sucks that all these devices and handhelds running OSX and Android OS'es use Linux based operating system.  That it's diluted and bastardized.

Don't be run of those hard stance draw a line in a sand guys.  Bitcoin won't survive without funding and development and main streaming.

This is great news period.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 10, 2015, 03:21:53 PM
Yippee, more big corporate money aiming blockchain technology into a web of regulation and control while the little guys sit in federal prison cells for trading Bitcoin.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Maybe tell those dudes to grab a money transmitter license like they're supposed to.   :P

J/K, we're still in the Wild Wild West phase of Bitcoin, shit happens, people go down when your trying to build something.

I'll let BurtW know if the federal government ever lets us talk to him again.

When Bitcoin becomes MasterCard I'll move on to something else. There are lots of federally regulated investment opportunities in the wild. Bitcoin is unnecessary for that purpose.

It sucks what happened to BurtW, but please let's not drag that into this thread.

Bitcoin will never become MasterCard, Bitcoin isn't a company or Financial Institution.

This isn't an either or situation.  You can't have Bitcoin thrive or survive, and no one pays the bills to keep the lights on and electricity running.

Even Linux wouldn't be where it is today without Android OS which is owned by Google, probably the largest centralized force in the universe.

Need to play both sides of the coin to be viable, there's no hard stance needed to be taken.

Do you honestly believe a large collection of corporate investors are doing this for any other reason than profit? That profit most likely will not help the small Bitcoin user or holder. I can see it being much more desirable for corporate investors to have price hold stable rather than climbing. This will do nothing to help me but I'm sure some groups will become famously wealthy.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: WhatTheGox on March 10, 2015, 03:23:03 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: kwukduck on March 10, 2015, 03:24:43 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Geez wake up man. It's not a bitcoin start up, they will just use the blockchain idea for their own products, not bitcoin or its network.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 03:29:21 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Geez wake up man. It's not a bitcoin start up, they will just use the blockchain idea for their own products, not bitcoin or its network.

Yea, you're right.  They just chose the name "21e6" because it's really catchy!   ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 03:31:24 PM
Yippee, more big corporate money aiming blockchain technology into a web of regulation and control while the little guys sit in federal prison cells for trading Bitcoin.

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Maybe tell those dudes to grab a money transmitter license like they're supposed to.   :P

J/K, we're still in the Wild Wild West phase of Bitcoin, shit happens, people go down when your trying to build something.

I'll let BurtW know if the federal government ever lets us talk to him again.

When Bitcoin becomes MasterCard I'll move on to something else. There are lots of federally regulated investment opportunities in the wild. Bitcoin is unnecessary for that purpose.

It sucks what happened to BurtW, but please let's not drag that into this thread.

Bitcoin will never become MasterCard, Bitcoin isn't a company or Financial Institution.

This isn't an either or situation.  You can't have Bitcoin thrive or survive, and no one pays the bills to keep the lights on and electricity running.

Even Linux wouldn't be where it is today without Android OS which is owned by Google, probably the largest centralized force in the universe.

Need to play both sides of the coin to be viable, there's no hard stance needed to be taken.

Do you honestly believe a large collection of corporate investors are doing this for any other reason than profit? That profit most likely will not help the small Bitcoin user or holder. I can see it being much more desirable for corporate investors to have price hold stable rather than climbing. This will do nothing to help me but I'm sure some groups will become famously wealthy.

Both.  Bitcoin is the future of money, why wouldn't they try to profit from the future of money?

Just do it "Pro Bono" for the hell of it.   :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: nakaone on March 10, 2015, 03:53:04 PM
This may seem like a big deal for bitcoin, however, it's not.
They will use the blockchain technology for their own products and leave bitcoin hanging in the cold.
Don't expect this to be relevant to the bitcoin economy.
Interesting startup though.

yes that's why they call it 21... - because they completely disregard the native currency of the protocol .... oh wait  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: AtheistAKASaneBrain on March 10, 2015, 04:57:20 PM
We on our ways fellas...

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Quote
For the past year and a half, a Silicon Valley startup has quietly convinced some of the biggest names in venture capital to back its effort to turn the technology behind bitcoin into a mass-marketed phenomenon.

Now, that company, which bears the name 21 Inc., is emerging from stealth to announce it has raised $116 million in venture funding, the most ever by a startup in the digital-currency sector, based on data from bitcoin news service Coindesk.

What it’s not yet publicizing is the precise nature of its operations, Chief Executive and co-founder Matthew Pauker will only say there will be “several interesting developments over the next weeks and months” about software and hardware products designed “to drive mainstream adoption of bitcoin.”

Since its launch six years ago by a mysterious coder who used the presumed pseudonym of Satoshi Nakamoto, bitcoin has drawn media attention as a wildly volatile digital currency. But amid stories of scandal, theft and turbulent prices, the general public has largely ignored the arguments of vocal supporters, who tout the digital currency’s potential to cut costs by removing middlemen from finance and commerce.

According to Silicon Valley investors such as those taking stakes in 21, say that failure to gain mass adoption is partly because the public’s attention has been misguidedly focused on bitcoin’s limited potential as a digital alternative to traditional currencies. In reality, they say, its underlying technology has far wider applications than that. Unlike the currency transactions that are generally associated with bitcoin, these new uses could range from lawyer-free smart contracts to tamper-proof online voting systems.

21’s lead investors include U.S. venture-capital heavyweights Andreessen Horowitz and RRE Ventures, along with Chinese private-equity firm Yuan Capital, with a strategic stake going to chipmaker Qualcomm Inc.QCOM +0.49% through its venture-capital unit.

Additionally, Khosla Ventures and Data Collective have invested in 21, as well as chief executives and founders from various tech companies, including PayPal co-founders Peter Thiel and Max Levchin, eBay Inc. co-founder Jeff Skoll, Dropbox Inc. CEO Drew Houston, Expedia Inc. CEO Dara Khosrowshahi and Zynga Inc. co-founder Mark Pincus.

Mr. Pauker said Qualcomm’s involvement is key. He hopes to exploit the Bridgewater, N.J., chipmaker’s mass-marketing and production capabilities in the development of a suite of consumer products that integrate with bitcoin’s core technology called the “blockchain.” This technology takes the form of a public, digital ledger that’s maintained by a decentralized network of thousands of independently owned computers.

Qualcomm’s involvement could spur speculation that 21 has its sights on the so-called “Internet of Things.” That’s the idea that a myriad of smart, Internet-connected appliances will in the future communicate with servers, networks and each other to optimize their operation, maintenance and energy usage without direct human involvement.

Some developers believe that bitcoin technology could play a key role in transparently managing the vast flow of information generated by these smart gadgets. The decentralized blockchain ledgers are free from the control of any one party, so smart appliances can in theory connect with computers built by other entities safely without worrying that the information was manipulated.

Starting out under the earlier name of 21e6, the company – which takes its name from the 21-million limit that bitcoin’s managing algorithm imposes on the total number of bitcoins to be released – spurred intense speculation in November 2013, when a regulatory filing revealed a $5 million fundraise.

Members of the bitcoin community speculated about a secret vehicle for Silicon Valley elites to develop high-powered equipment that could dominate bitcoin mining. Mr. Pauker’s comments about a consumer focus suggest that isn’t where the company has ended up.

The initial secrecy around 21 was “solely for pragmatic reasons – we didn’t have anything to say to the world,” – says co-founder Balaji Srinivasan, who is also a partner at Andreessen Horowitz. He compares 21’s work in building bitcoin products for the general public to the sequential development of 56-kilobit Internet modems, international fiber cables and wireless Internet towers, which all helped bring the Internet into people’s homes in the late 1990s.

This notion also has parallels with the mass Internet appeal achieved in the 1990s by the development of the Netscape browser by Marc Andreessen, a co-founder of Mr. Srinivasan’s firm. Asked for his views on 21, Mr. Andreessen said it “is working on what they — and we — consider to be core infrastructure for mainstreaming bitcoin.”

21’s announcement extends this year’s upswing in venture capitalists’ digital-currency investments, highlighted by January’s $75 million fundraising for San Francisco-based bitcoin wallet provider Coinbase Inc., whose investors include the New York Stock Exchange. Bitcoin-focused venture capital more than tripled to $347 million in 2014 from a year earlier, according Coindesk.

The money flow is paving the way for products and services aimed at transitioning bitcoin from its volatile, Wild West beginnings into an era of more secure infrastructure and mass appeal.

A week after its funding announcement, Coinbase unveiled the first licensed U.S bitcoin currency exchange. Later, high-tech security company BitGo Inc. launched a unique insurance program, while the New York-based Digital Currency Group’s Bitcoin Investment Trust earned regulatory approval to become the first publicly offered fund dedicated to owning bitcoin.

Well-funded custodial and financial services companies Xapo Ltd. and Circle Internet Financial Ltd. have also developed high-tech security and insurance projects. Meanwhile, San Francisco startup BitFury Holding BV has launched new, high-powered chips to take bitcoin mining to a new level of intensity.

None of this will matter if bitcoin doesn’t achieve mass adoption, says Mr. Pauker.

“Bitcoin is going to change the way that people and businesses and even machines interact with each other,” he says. “But for bitcoin to realize that vision we need mass adoption. It can’t just be for Silicon Valley.”

This is great under the radar news, mainly because only the silicon valley giants really know what 21 is all about.

Knowing that so many brilliant people and companies are supporting and investing in this secretive company is going to be truly ground breaking.

Can't wait to see what type of smart appliances or gadgets 21 comes up with, that will get the masses flocking to get a peek at this new Bitcoin centric tech.

And things continue as accorded by common sense (aka Bitcoin being a global success). Let the FUDsters drown in their own tears.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: dothebeats on March 10, 2015, 05:20:19 PM
Good if bitcoin gains big from them, but apparently they are also companies seeking for profit. Not sure if they will even support bitcoin and the network, or they will only use it for the benefit of their companies.

21e6? Nice name.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: randy8777 on March 10, 2015, 05:32:34 PM
that's pretty amazing. let's hope it will work out and at some point Bitcoin in general will benefit from it.
the large amount will be left behind in the future with even higher investments.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 05:37:47 PM
Good if bitcoin gains big from them, but apparently they are also companies seeking for profit. Not sure if they will even support bitcoin and the network, or they will only use it for the benefit of their companies.

21e6? Nice name.


They actually have been supporting the network more than any of us here have:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=334759.0

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2013/11/18/silicon-valley-startups-race-to-sell.html?page=all

They've been either providing mining asics or building hardware related to large scale mining since 2013, and I've been told mining is supporting the Bitcoin network.

Facts.   ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: LiteCoinGuy on March 10, 2015, 05:41:12 PM
wow, impressive news  :)

hardware for the mass-market - finally.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Lauda on March 10, 2015, 05:45:41 PM
Even though the news are excellent (if correct and the money gets properly used), I've been waiting for these companies "aiming" at mainstream BTC.
The adoption is picking up, but not quickly enough.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 06:05:15 PM
Even though the news are excellent (if correct and the money gets properly used), I've been waiting for these companies "aiming" at mainstream BTC.
The adoption is picking up, but not quickly enough.

I understand the frustration in looking at the cash register at your local retail store, and only cash, credit, or Apple Pay is accepted, and Bitcoin is not even a consideration.  We all know where we're at right now.

That said it's 2015.  6 years in.  Google was founded in 1998.  Honestly, I didn't really start using Google until like 2003-2004.  Google was started in the dorm room of 2 dudes from Stanford.  Their first rack servers were home made, no name brand ones they put together:

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2673/4176784753_8f36142afd.jpg

If they didn't receive seed funding similar to one that 21 just received, Google probably wouldn't still be around.

You guys seriously cannot be this jaded.

Investing and seed funding ---> Further Development and Marketing for Bitcoin ---> Consumers start hearing and using it

I know you guys all want cookies, but you gotta pre heat the oven first...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Netnox on March 10, 2015, 06:48:21 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Geez wake up man. It's not a bitcoin start up, they will just use the blockchain idea for their own products, not bitcoin or its network.

Wouldn't this blockchain need bitcoin to operate since as far as i know blockchain can't operate without bitcoin or any other crypto.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Denker on March 10, 2015, 06:53:05 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Geez wake up man. It's not a bitcoin start up, they will just use the blockchain idea for their own products, not bitcoin or its network.

Wouldn't this blockchain need bitcoin to operate since as far as i know blockchain can't operate without bitcoin or any other crypto.

Yes you're right. The blockchain, the network and currency can not be separated.This belongs together.

By the way...

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Qualcomm's chips represent a large portion of the cell phone market.  They intend to bring their cellular chip technology to all manner of interconnected things, and use the Bitcoin blockchain to do so.


He knew it. :D
Listen 25:00 to 26:35!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9npQ5f74Nr4#t=25m00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9npQ5f74Nr4#t=25m00)

At 26:20 he said:"Bitcoin protocol being embedded in chips.Chips that can't be modified very easily!"


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 10, 2015, 06:56:44 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Geez wake up man. It's not a bitcoin start up, they will just use the blockchain idea for their own products, not bitcoin or its network.

Wouldn't this blockchain need bitcoin to operate since as far as i know blockchain can't operate without bitcoin or any other crypto.

Yes you're right. The blockchain, the network and currency can not be separated.This belongs together.

By the way...

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Qualcomm's chips represent a large portion of the cell phone market.  They intend to bring their cellular chip technology to all manner of interconnected things, and use the Bitcoin blockchain to do so.


He knew it. :D
Listen 25:00 to 26:35!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9npQ5f74Nr4#t=25m00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9npQ5f74Nr4#t=25m00)

At 26:20 he said:"Bitcoin protocol being embedded in chips.Chips that can't be modified very easily!"

What do you do if there's a protocol change, throw your phone away?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 10, 2015, 07:08:14 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Geez wake up man. It's not a bitcoin start up, they will just use the blockchain idea for their own products, not bitcoin or its network.

Wouldn't this blockchain need bitcoin to operate since as far as i know blockchain can't operate without bitcoin or any other crypto.

Yes you're right. The blockchain, the network and currency can not be separated.This belongs together.

By the way...

http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2015/03/10/secretive-bitcoin-startup-21-reveals-record-funds-hints-at-mass-consumer-play/

Qualcomm's chips represent a large portion of the cell phone market.  They intend to bring their cellular chip technology to all manner of interconnected things, and use the Bitcoin blockchain to do so.


He knew it. :D
Listen 25:00 to 26:35!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9npQ5f74Nr4#t=25m00 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9npQ5f74Nr4#t=25m00)

At 26:20 he said:"Bitcoin protocol being embedded in chips.Chips that can't be modified very easily!"

What do you do if there's a protocol change, throw your phone away?

Keep it.  Nothing drastic will happen.  I'm assuming you're talking about the Gavin fork in June.  Bitcoin's been forked before, everything's going to be just gravy.  No need to "Question Authority" all the time... 8)

http://insidebitcoins.com/news/gavin-andresen-optimistic-about-scaling-bitcoin/30652



Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Guido on March 10, 2015, 10:31:08 PM
BOOM!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Gleb Gamow on March 11, 2015, 01:05:37 AM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Geez wake up man. It's not a bitcoin start up, they will just use the blockchain idea for their own products, not bitcoin or its network.

Yea, you're right.  They just chose the name "21e6" because it's really catchy!   ::)

It's so catchy, I'm goin' to register i21e6.com and 21e6prime.com and i21e6primesquare.com and i21e6primesquarebay.com. and 6e12i.moc to corner the backward countries' markets.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Inotanewbie on March 11, 2015, 01:40:14 AM
Excellent news for bitcoin if ever i have heard it, i mean that is a nice cash injection by anyone's standards all the possibility's than can be achieved are staggering. Time to hold and not let go of them coins shorting this year will be dangerous to say the least   


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: kelsey on March 11, 2015, 02:52:28 AM
No need to "Question Authority" all the time... 8)

though you need to question a 'dencentralised' system having 'authority'  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 11, 2015, 03:03:43 AM
No need to "Question Authority" all the time... 8)

though you need to question a 'dencentralised' system having 'authority'  ;)

Threads like this make me believe people need a central authority to make them feel successful. If there's not some big rich powerful collective guiding the direction they aren't happy. Or maybe they're just greedy fucks looking to cash out at the earliest opportunity and big rich powerful collectives will help them do that faster.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Agestorzrxx on March 11, 2015, 03:16:42 AM
This is a great news for bitcoin.
But we still have no idea what the main business of Bitcoin Startup 21.
They are miner vendor before.
Is they still produce asic miners?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 11, 2015, 03:37:17 AM
This is a great news for bitcoin.
But we still have no idea what the main business of Bitcoin Startup 21.
They are miner vendor before.
Is they still produce asic miners?

That's the fun part!  Speculating on hardware these guys will come up with.

Just having these investors behind this funding round is staggering.  Like a who's who of tech giants:

Quote
Additionally, Khosla Ventures and Data Collective have invested in 21, as well as chief executives and founders from various tech companies, including PayPal co-founders Peter Thiel and Max Levchin, eBay Inc. co-founder Jeff Skoll, Dropbox Inc. CEO Drew Houston, Expedia Inc. CEO Dara Khosrowshahi and Zynga Inc. co-founder Mark Pincus.

Qualcomm's partnership absolutely makes this deal:

Quote
Qualcomm’s involvement could spur speculation that 21 has its sights on the so-called “Internet of Things.” That’s the idea that a myriad of smart, Internet-connected appliances will in the future communicate with servers, networks and each other to optimize their operation, maintenance and energy usage without direct human involvement.

I'm no chip maker nor involved in that industry, but I'm pretty sure Qualcomm puts their chips in a ton of mobile phones so....

http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/snapdragonphone.jpg


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: mercistheman on March 11, 2015, 03:46:40 AM
Haters be like... DAMN!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: freedomno1 on March 11, 2015, 03:53:46 AM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

So far that is, anyways its good for the ecosystem in general
How long it takes for them to formulate a product is the question but it might contribute to significant price appreciation in 2016-2017
All the investments now give these incumbents a head start when it really starts to pay off.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: kelsey on March 11, 2015, 04:07:00 AM
No need to "Question Authority" all the time... 8)

though you need to question a 'dencentralised' system having 'authority'  ;)

Threads like this make me believe people need a central authority to make them feel successful. If there's not some big rich powerful collective guiding the direction they aren't happy. Or maybe they're just greedy fucks looking to cash out at the earliest opportunity and big rich powerful collectives will help them do that faster.

the irony in gavin only having to convince 5 people to make the change, thats a hell of alot less people then had to be convinced for the too big to fail banks to be bailed out...........hmmm gotta love 'decentralised' cryptocurrencies...such a great alternative to the centralised banks controlled fiat.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Possum577 on March 11, 2015, 04:10:08 AM
This is not automatically "great news" as the OP says.

There's a problem when the article doesn't talk about what the business does. There's a bigger problem when the company itself is trying to keep it's purpose and business a secret from the market. There's a lot of money in Silicon Valley, this seems like a "flyer play" don't get too excited unless 21 has a real operation to offer us, transactions in bitcoin of course.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Sindelar1938 on March 11, 2015, 04:17:44 AM
Indeed, the VC $ flowing in is incredible. Very encouraging.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: QuestionAuthority on March 11, 2015, 07:20:32 AM
No need to "Question Authority" all the time... 8)

though you need to question a 'dencentralised' system having 'authority'  ;)

Threads like this make me believe people need a central authority to make them feel successful. If there's not some big rich powerful collective guiding the direction they aren't happy. Or maybe they're just greedy fucks looking to cash out at the earliest opportunity and big rich powerful collectives will help them do that faster.

the irony in gavin only having to convince 5 people to make the change, thats a hell of alot less people then had to be convinced for the too big to fail banks to be bailed out...........hmmm gotta love 'decentralised' cryptocurrencies...such a great alternative to the centralised banks controlled fiat.

The only thing left to do is wait for all the mining to be done in a couple of super farms in China and some corporation to become the source of the official client. Then you and I can cash out and move to something else. Bitcoin will keep working just fine. The dollar never stopped working I just don't want to use it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: theskillzdatklls on March 11, 2015, 08:40:15 AM
ill be waiting on the sidelines to see what this is really about. too early to tell now even though it looks encouraging.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: tss on March 11, 2015, 01:19:10 PM
thats a huge amount for funding.  i wonder what they will do in this space.  what is all the money for?  there has to be a plan of attack to raise such funds im assuming.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Q7 on March 11, 2015, 02:03:53 PM
From what I read, I think they are more interested in the blockchain technology rather than bitcoin itself. Since they didn't reveal into detail what they are up to, I supposed it has something to do with another altcoin? No...Or I see creation of new database to support some products that is also based on public ledger, either way, still has nothing to do with bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: arbitrage001 on March 11, 2015, 05:17:32 PM
From what I read, I think they are more interested in the blockchain technology rather than bitcoin itself. Since they didn't reveal into detail what they are up to, I supposed it has something to do with another altcoin? No...Or I see creation of new database to support some products that is also based on public ledger, either way, still has nothing to do with bitcoin.

More likely trying to integrate the blockchain technology into existing banking/finance sector. Could save a lot of paperwork and layoff more than a dozen departments.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: DeboraMeeks on March 11, 2015, 05:21:12 PM
From what I read, I think they are more interested in the blockchain technology rather than bitcoin itself. Since they didn't reveal into detail what they are up to, I supposed it has something to do with another altcoin? No...Or I see creation of new database to support some products that is also based on public ledger, either way, still has nothing to do with bitcoin.

More likely trying to integrate the blockchain technology into existing banking/finance sector. Could save a lot of paperwork and layoff more than a dozen departments.

That's true, and because of that, a lot of corruption might get into control as if even some level of centralization takes place, as that only will get it going and anonymity might get harmed.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: BillyBobZorton on March 11, 2015, 05:26:09 PM
From what I read, I think they are more interested in the blockchain technology rather than bitcoin itself. Since they didn't reveal into detail what they are up to, I supposed it has something to do with another altcoin? No...Or I see creation of new database to support some products that is also based on public ledger, either way, still has nothing to do with bitcoin.

More likely trying to integrate the blockchain technology into existing banking/finance sector. Could save a lot of paperwork and layoff more than a dozen departments.
What they should do is just embrace Bitcoin fully, putting the problem into the blockchain will not magically solve it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: wilth1 on March 11, 2015, 07:51:35 PM

Just for fun:
Thiel -> Derpbook, Palantir -> 3 letter agencies



Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: RodeoX on March 11, 2015, 08:01:16 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Geez wake up man. It's not a bitcoin start up, they will just use the blockchain idea for their own products, not bitcoin or its network.
Curious how you determined this. I read through their stuff and everything pointed to the use of bitcoin between networked devices. Did I miss something?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: dothebeats on March 11, 2015, 08:03:23 PM
$116 million is an impressive number, I think they are the best funded bitcoin start up ever.

Yep it is i think, great news.  This could be it guys hold onto your hats.


Geez wake up man. It's not a bitcoin start up, they will just use the blockchain idea for their own products, not bitcoin or its network.
Curious how you determined this. I read through their stuff and everything pointed to the use of bitcoin between networked devices. Did I miss something?

Me too. I've read and sift through some of the articles regarding the said start-up and I did not see anything fishy.

Hard to jump on conclusions without sufficient basis man. But still probable, though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Fargo on March 11, 2015, 08:06:13 PM
In other news, coindesk is giving away a mac  ;D

https://deals.coindesk.com/giveaways/the-macbook-pro-giveaway (https://deals.coindesk.com/giveaways/the-macbook-pro-giveaway?gid=1810114)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: Alley on March 11, 2015, 08:19:56 PM
I still don't get it.  So if I link my phone and computer together with the block chain what does it accomplish?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Startup 21 raises record funding $116 mill, aims at mainstreaming BTC
Post by: coinpr0n on March 11, 2015, 08:20:05 PM
With that kind of funding we'll hear about it sooner or later. I'm sure a large chunk of that will go to marketing themselves all over the place.