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Title: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: TheGr33k on March 12, 2015, 01:49:17 AM
Paper burns, what is a super creative way of keeping cold storage?


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Possum577 on March 12, 2015, 02:45:30 AM
Etched in iron (or what ever metal has a higher melt threshhold), stored in a fire proof, immovable safe.

This would be protected against theft, fire, flood, death....


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Hazir on March 12, 2015, 02:52:45 AM
Etched in iron (or what ever metal has a higher melt threshhold), stored in a fire proof, immovable safe.

This would be protected against theft, fire, flood, death....
I am afraid nothing can protect you from death itself. I do not know what is the most creative way of keeping bitcoin in cold storage but I am sure that the best way it to keep it in the most inconspicuous way. As some old papers or book maybe. That way nobody would even notice it.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: TheGr33k on March 12, 2015, 03:13:21 AM
Etched in iron (or what ever metal has a higher melt threshhold), stored in a fire proof, immovable safe.

This would be protected against theft, fire, flood, death....
I am afraid nothing can protect you from death itself. I do not know what is the most creative way of keeping bitcoin in cold storage but I am sure that the best way it to keep it in the most inconspicuous way. As some old papers or book maybe. That way nobody would even notice it.
paper burns right?


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: sirslayer on March 12, 2015, 03:14:19 AM


bury it near by!!!  and use your time machine that is built from bitcoin so you can goto the future to the next ice age and wait till the glaciers thaws out from the area and retrieve it by a robot you built from bitcoins


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: futureofbitcoin on March 12, 2015, 03:39:38 AM
Store it in a freezer, obviously...


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: cshelswell on March 12, 2015, 04:21:54 AM
You could put your paper in a small fireproof safe. It might not live up to a nuclear holocaust but your coins might be safe in a house fire.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: TheButterZone on March 12, 2015, 04:29:31 AM
BIP38-encrypted private key tattooed on your nether regions.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: NRF on March 12, 2015, 04:39:29 AM
https://i.imgur.com/bQI17WW.jpg

Cloud writing.  Very creative.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: dothebeats on March 12, 2015, 04:43:28 AM
Paper burns, what is a super creative way of keeping cold storage?

Super creative? You can stick with paper, and just laminate it for added protection. Keep in a fire-safe place to avoid the laminated paper getting burned.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: BitcoinFr34k on March 12, 2015, 04:45:54 AM
Some people may not think this is very creative, however I am pretty sure very few people do this. I would use a silver wallet to actually store bitcoin in. This is contrary to what most people use their silver wallets (and most other physical coins) for - as collection items.

Although this is technically a paper wallet, it is still somewhat unique because few/no people use their physical coins this way


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: futureofbitcoin on March 12, 2015, 04:46:28 AM
You can also announce your private keys in a public place like this forum and let them write it on paper, that way even if a few people get in a traffic accident and this site somehow shuts down, the private keys still won't be lost, and you wouldn't have to deal with a paper cut :D


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Vhawk23 on March 12, 2015, 04:50:07 AM
Save it in a freezer?
You said "cold" storage right? ;D

Just kidding, i actually don't save my bitcoins in a cold storage (not yet)
Maybe I'll go with paper wallet way, since it's traditional and simple :D (but not really secure :-\)


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Possum577 on March 12, 2015, 05:40:36 AM
Etched in iron (or what ever metal has a higher melt threshhold), stored in a fire proof, immovable safe.

This would be protected against theft, fire, flood, death....
I am afraid nothing can protect you from death itself. I do not know what is the most creative way of keeping bitcoin in cold storage but I am sure that the best way it to keep it in the most inconspicuous way. As some old papers or book maybe. That way nobody would even notice it.

Not to protect me from death, but to protect my family from never being able to access my bitcoins when I die. That would be the worst, that they end up lost forever.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Possum577 on March 12, 2015, 05:41:58 AM
Store it in a freezer, obviously...

But is that creative? How about in etched in metal and then frozen in the ice rink i've made in my backyard? I'm good for another month or so, then I'm fucked until December...


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: shorena on March 12, 2015, 11:35:35 AM
Paper burns, what is a super creative way of keeping cold storage?

Creative? Create a picture which includes a several step riddle which reveals the private key at the end. Get an oil painted version and hang it on the wall, for added security include several passwords that are part of the riddle but have to be given in order to find the solution.

https://i.imgur.com/Uc6VAnV.jpg


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Bralex on March 12, 2015, 11:58:09 AM
Paper burns, what is a super creative way of keeping cold storage?

For a large amount that i wanted with me everywhere i would have a uv tattoo somewhere very painful but safe  ;D  


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Q7 on March 12, 2015, 12:13:54 PM
I'm fine with having the private key engraved on a piece of metal and then store it like what you normally do with paper wallet. That relates to the ad posted earlier on this forum. Therefore, even though that doesn't qualify as being creative, at least you don't have issues such as house getting burned down or ink faded away that cause the private key to be lost forever.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: coinableS on March 12, 2015, 01:00:26 PM
Base 6 format private keys are 99 digits in length using numbers 0 - 5.
What comes in sixes??? Vowels!
Pick out a novel, a classic book that will never go out of print.
Then choose your special chapter and start counting vowels.
A=0 E=1 I=2 O=3 U=4 Y=5

"It was the best of times it was the worst of times"
=
"0113212013321" and so on

After 99 you will have a private key that you can never lose, assuming you can find a copy of that book.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 12, 2015, 01:07:49 PM
Hide them in a painting or in a bunch of multi step riddles Da Vinci Code style:

http://www.cedarnet.org/cedarloo/essays/lastsupper1.JPG

http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/gamespot/images/2006/141/reviews/736037-932401_20060522_002.jpg

Unless you have Robert Langdon, you ain't getting my private keys...


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: TheGr33k on March 12, 2015, 01:55:21 PM
Hide them in a painting or in a bunch of multi step riddles Da Vinci Code style:

http://www.cedarnet.org/cedarloo/essays/lastsupper1.JPG

http://static.gamespot.com/uploads/scale_super/gamespot/images/2006/141/reviews/736037-932401_20060522_002.jpg

Unless you have Robert Langdon, you ain't getting my private keys...
A couple posts about the multi step riddle and they are all interesting, I remember a art collector hid millions in paintings and has a riddle to solve them, would be really cool to se someone do this in bitcoins


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Newar on March 12, 2015, 02:02:04 PM

A similar thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820273.msg9167176#msg9167176


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Cray4Cryptz on March 12, 2015, 02:26:58 PM
Paper burns, what is a super creative way of keeping cold storage?

Super creative? You can stick with paper, and just laminate it for added protection. Keep in a fire-safe place to avoid the laminated paper getting burned.

why look for complex way if you can do this

as long as its serves the purpose.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: TheGr33k on March 12, 2015, 02:32:54 PM
Paper burns, what is a super creative way of keeping cold storage?

Super creative? You can stick with paper, and just laminate it for added protection. Keep in a fire-safe place to avoid the laminated paper getting burned.

why look for complex way if you can do this

as long as its serves the purpose.
Why not? Its fun to do new things with your bitcoin!


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: kingama on March 12, 2015, 08:05:23 PM
From the other thread, this seems pretty cool and durable, if a bit pricey. $150+$8 per foot of tape. Not sure what the works out to per bip38 encrypted private key.

This makes tags for really harsh environments like pipelines, so it should do for permanent code storage including cases like fire and flooding.  Not sure if they do lower case but if not just put a slash in front of the char that is going to be lower case.

I'm going to get one and try it out.

http://www.amazon.com/DYMO-Tapewriter-Metal-Embosser-101105/dp/B000FD7Z7I/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1413480605&sr=8-3&keywords=tape+embosser

http://www.amazon.com/DYMO-Non-Adhesive-Stainless-Embossing-Cassette/dp/B000O78D94/ref=pd_sim_op_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0S9RH5Z6WBSQ2RMV22PY


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Snail2 on March 12, 2015, 08:50:32 PM
Carve it under the sculpture of Thomas Jefferson on Mount Rushmore :).

Edit: ...in haiku format stanzas :).


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Wendigo on March 12, 2015, 08:59:54 PM
Embedded chip under the skin that can hold coins and record transactions? This way you know your precious bitcoins are always with you wherever you go :)


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Mitchell on March 12, 2015, 09:06:16 PM
Extremely small font engraved onto tiny plate which is placed under your skin!
Embedded chip under the skin that can hold coins and record transactions? This way you know your precious bitcoins are always with you wherever you go :)
Mr. Bitcoin has a NFC chip implanted in his hand that holds his Bitcoin wallet. Hand-implanted NFC chips open this man's bitcoin wallet (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2014-11/11/mr-bitcoin-nfc-implant). He is a fascinating and amazing man. ;D


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Possum577 on March 12, 2015, 09:09:45 PM
Use a combination of first letters in each line on a page and page numbers from a random book at your local library, one that's widely known...like it could be purchased or found at any library.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: PolarPoint on March 12, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
Have your key engraved in stone, bury it in your garden and plant a tree over it. That's creative.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Mitchell on March 12, 2015, 09:36:20 PM
Aren't NFC thieves on the rise? Seems like a less secure method then he thought.
He doesn't store the private keys directly on the NFC. They are encrypted with BIP38, so that only he can use them. Yes, thieves could steal them if they got near his hands, but they would be useless to them as they don't know the secret passphrase that encrypted the private keys.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: TheGr33k on March 12, 2015, 10:11:05 PM
Have your key engraved in stone, bury it in your garden and plant a tree over it. That's creative.
That pkays a risky game, erosion and tree roots will hit ya


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Beliathon on March 13, 2015, 12:46:17 AM
Write a poem.
Use the poem to create a brainwallet.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: johnyj on March 13, 2015, 01:02:25 AM
Nothing beats backup, back up the key in different geographical locations remove the need to protect a single point of failure, and keeping several copies at your relatives might give them chance to retrieve it once you were caught by an incident


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: cshelswell on March 13, 2015, 01:28:01 AM
Nothing beats backup, back up the key in different geographical locations remove the need to protect a single point of failure, and keeping several copies at your relatives might give them chance to retrieve it once you were caught by an incident

I back everything up in 2 locations and 3 different drives. Backup is the best way to preserve something I used to love watching people at uni who stored all their assignments on a thumb drive only for it to fail. I'd ask if they'd backed it up... They learnt to do so quickly


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: digitalgrow on March 13, 2015, 02:11:19 AM
Make a ring engraved with a private key forged in the fires of Mount Doom in Mordor

The Key only becomes visible when the ring is heated in fire


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Possum577 on March 13, 2015, 02:22:00 AM
On your old no internet access phone, stored in your freezer (of course).


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: Possum577 on March 13, 2015, 02:22:47 AM
Nothing beats backup, back up the key in different geographical locations remove the need to protect a single point of failure, and keeping several copies at your relatives might give them chance to retrieve it once you were caught by an incident

I back everything up in 2 locations and 3 different drives. Backup is the best way to preserve something I used to love watching people at uni who stored all their assignments on a thumb drive only for it to fail. I'd ask if they'd backed it up... They learnt to do so quickly

What's "uni"?


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: lyth0s on March 13, 2015, 02:29:36 AM
Make a ring engraved with a private key forged in the fires of Mount Doom in Mordor

The Key only becomes visible when the ring is heated in fire

I think Charlie Shrem did this already...... 


How about storing them in plane sight??? Make a bunch of new addresses in a wallet each with 1 satoshi. Then pay all those satoshis back to one of your primary well-known wallet address that you can recognize. Use the 2nd number/letter of each address as the passphrase for a brain wallet which then give you a private key/public key. HIDDEN IN PLAIN SITE and won't go away unless bitcoin is dead.

--Now that this method is said it is not safe (and not really random either), DO NOT ACTUALLY DO THIS!!! lol


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: lyth0s on March 13, 2015, 02:31:36 AM
Nothing beats backup, back up the key in different geographical locations remove the need to protect a single point of failure, and keeping several copies at your relatives might give them chance to retrieve it once you were caught by an incident

I back everything up in 2 locations and 3 different drives. Backup is the best way to preserve something I used to love watching people at uni who stored all their assignments on a thumb drive only for it to fail. I'd ask if they'd backed it up... They learnt to do so quickly

What's "uni"?

Uni = University.

Even worse I meant an older women at my previous University who kept her Thesis on a freaking 3.5'' floppy drive, no backups, and it FAILED. Poof, years of work....GONE.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: cshelswell on March 13, 2015, 08:03:14 PM
Nothing beats backup, back up the key in different geographical locations remove the need to protect a single point of failure, and keeping several copies at your relatives might give them chance to retrieve it once you were caught by an incident

I back everything up in 2 locations and 3 different drives. Backup is the best way to preserve something I used to love watching people at uni who stored all their assignments on a thumb drive only for it to fail. I'd ask if they'd backed it up... They learnt to do so quickly

What's "uni"?

Uni = University.

Even worse I meant an older women at my previous University who kept her Thesis on a freaking 3.5'' floppy drive, no backups, and it FAILED. Poof, years of work....GONE.

Yeah I remember people using only one floppy to put stuff on... Nutters... I don't think floppy disks were ever reliable


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: rikkie on March 14, 2015, 09:42:27 PM
Make a ring engraved with a private key forged in the fires of Mount Doom in Mordor

The Key only becomes visible when the ring is heated in fire

I think Charlie Shrem did this already...... 


How about storing them in plane sight??? Make a bunch of new addresses in a wallet each with 1 satoshi. Then pay all those satoshis back to one of your primary well-known wallet address that you can recognize. Use the 2nd number/letter of each address as the passphrase for a brain wallet which then give you a private key/public key. HIDDEN IN PLAIN SITE and won't go away unless bitcoin is dead.

--Now that this method is said it is not safe (and not really random either), DO NOT ACTUALLY DO THIS!!! lol
You could possibly do some variation of this. Instead of the second number, you could use the last digit or the second to last digit. You obviously would not use 1 satoshi inputs, but instead use inputs starting at .01 BTC and increasing up to 1.12 BTC in .01 BTC increments, and having the digit that you use for the .01 input as the first number/letter of your passphrase, the .02 input the second digit and so on until the 1.12 digit is the last digit of your passphrase. You could first create transactions to an intermediary address (or several so you would need to go back a few 'hops' to get back to your passphraise inputs), then create the brainwallet and fund the brainwallet.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: picolo on March 15, 2015, 12:37:52 AM
Paper burns, what is a super creative way of keeping cold storage?

Paper that doesn't burn or a brain wallet. I think a brain wallet is a very creative way to keep your bitcoins in cold storage because you need to be very creative to create a safe brainwallet.


Title: Re: whats the most creative way of keeping bitcoins in cold storage
Post by: asuryan180 on March 15, 2015, 12:47:06 AM
Not sure how creative it is but it would surly be very safe as long as you remember where you put it i would use stone engraved with the keys and have that buried in a time capsule in my garden. Like i said would be safe enough and as long as you do not need it really quick would be perfect for me at least and i am going to look into it :)