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Title: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: fork on August 05, 2012, 07:11:50 AM
How exactly would you make a site about playing chess competitively for bitcoins? Use of computers would be allowed so that would eliminate the problem of trying to prevent cheating. Exactly how would you handle deposits of bitcoins in a secure way. Would accepting bitcoins for deposit for use in chess entail having to deal with money licensing laws or whatever laws out there. And how would you make the user interface for arranging a game of chess very smooth and simple?

Also on a side note, whatever happened to the various play chess for bitcoins sites out there?


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on August 05, 2012, 07:19:01 AM
1) You'd use Lichess.org's open source github as the base code

2) You'd sit back and watch everyone cheat their asses off and the site never gets anywhere

3) ????

4) Profit


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: Tim Johnson on August 05, 2012, 07:21:03 AM
You will end up with Gundam fights between supercomputers playing Chess.

You're better off making a Go game that allows you to bet in Bitcoins.

(Computers can't beat Humans at Go.)


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on August 05, 2012, 07:22:23 AM
Thanks Atlas.


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: fork on August 05, 2012, 07:32:22 AM
You will end up with Gundam fights between supercomputers playing Chess.

You're better off making a Go game that allows you to bet in Bitcoins.

(Computers can't beat Humans at Go.)

Thats my intention. I don't see anything wrong with fights between supercomputers.


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: Foxpup on August 05, 2012, 07:51:50 AM
You will end up with Gundam fights between supercomputers playing Chess.

You're better off making a Go game that allows you to bet in Bitcoins.

(Computers can't beat Humans at Go.)

Thats my intention. I don't see anything wrong with fights between supercomputers.

Really? From your post, I thought this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Chess) was your intention. Most supercomputers will get their CPU caches handed to them by a good cyborg player. Good luck with your project.


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: fork on August 05, 2012, 07:59:40 AM
You will end up with Gundam fights between supercomputers playing Chess.

You're better off making a Go game that allows you to bet in Bitcoins.

(Computers can't beat Humans at Go.)

Thats my intention. I don't see anything wrong with fights between supercomputers.

Really? From your post, I thought this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Chess) was your intention. Most supercomputers will get their CPU caches handed to them by a good cyborg player. Good luck with your project.

And the fact that cyborg players will win is the whole reason why allowing computers doesn't make chess boring.


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: FlipPro on August 05, 2012, 08:19:39 AM
Someone should really do this. Call it "chess coin" or something to that effect.


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on August 05, 2012, 10:33:07 AM
Someone should really do this. Call it "chess coin" or something to that effect.

I started BitChess.com a while back, right after making BIT-FU, so the question isn't that of "will someone start it?", it's "why doesn't it work?" and I'll gladly explain to them.


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: Ferroh on August 05, 2012, 01:23:22 PM
Computers can't beat Humans at Go.
This is still true as far as I know, although:

a) You have to be pretty good to defeat a computer at Go.

b) I don't know if anyone is really trying to make software/hardware that plays Go really well these days.


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: FreeMoney on August 05, 2012, 06:53:12 PM
Last time this came up my advice was to change the rules slightly (maybe even have a bunch of variants to choose from) so that out-of-the-box computers can't play. That would raise the bar greatly and I don't think it would be a problem until you had some success and resources to combat the programmers making special bots to play.

Or you could totally embrace it, call it cyborgpoker.com or something and make all the best programs available on the site etc.


Title: Re: Chess and Bitcoin
Post by: bg002h on August 05, 2012, 09:25:25 PM
Not a bad idea....good luck!