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I've noticed that some newbies coming to this subforum do not realize the amount of scams we're having here. Hence, I'm proposing a central thread, listing all defaulted/failed loans in this subforum stickied on the top. This should give us a rough estimate of lending scams we encounter per month, and serve as a warning for people getting in the lending scene. It'll be easier for theymos to pinpoint the alter egos of the scammers here too (as I presume most scammers operate using multiple accounts - just take a look at HonorMe and co.)

Do take a look at Tomatocage's thread to educate yourself of the scammer situation we have on hand here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119896.0

Not too sure to place this in Meta or in the Lending thread, so I'm placing this here temporarily. ;D Placed here

Thanks to PatrickHarnett for the spreadsheet generator!  ;D

List

Username	Forum Rank	Bitcoins Defaulted
Shakaru	Donator/Hero Member	2211.07786728
PunkAs	Jr. Member	10
SirChiko	Jr. Member	12
DoubleIcarus	Full Member	111.00
Kais3r	Jr. Member	4.9
Gurg2.0/KuJoking7	Full member/Full member	108
Tom Litten	??	24.00
Wezzy	Jr. Member	100
Tesla13	Jr. Member	10
Milkman39	Jr. Member	70.00
godchronic	Jr. Member	4.50
AncientX	Jr. Member	62.50
lxFlasHxl	Jr. Member	2.00
ixBRADxi	Jr. Member	5.00
TheLastDovah	Jr. Member	4.00
daniel88darko	Jr. Member	0.50
kingpin26	Jr. Member	98.79
snapman	Full Member	19.36
Zack	Jr. Member	3.00
LionHeart	Jr. Member	26.00
Jermainé	Full Member	60.13
noobularkid	Jr. Member	10.00
jme621	Sr. Member	22.00
bcjunkie	Jr. Member	15.00
	Total:	2993.76

Detailed spreadsheet to Shakaru's owed money (thanks imsaguy): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnzolfvAaL97dGlQZjZmcFMwTzlmbWJNUHdyZnM4M2c#gid=3

Are you suggesting this thread - I'll kick off with a few:

PunkAs - 10
SirChiko - 12
DoubleIcarus - 101
Kais3r  - 4.9
Gurg2.0/KuJoking7 - 28 + 60
Tom Litten - 24
Wezzy in Australia is a weasel - 100
Tesla13 - 10
Milkman39 - 70

Updated main thread with your list. I'm still contemplating if a sticky could be justified for this though..better ask Maged about this.  ;D

DoubleIcarus 10 BTC

Added, and a table is painstakingly made.  ;D

A few more modifications, it'll get there (I use spreadsheets to build mine). 

Note that the "Wezzy" line can drop the "Australia" reference - He lurks on a BlackHat forum under that name.
You can add godchronic if you like - they're still dodging requests.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90788.0

Here's a useful link to find details on scammers: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=mlist;sa=search;search=scammer;fields=group

DoubleIcarus was a Full Member. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=47767

Updated. I could use a spreadsheet to handle this and it'll be really easier, but people are lazy to click links. I also want Google to pick the usernames up and spreadsheets are not searchable.

Thanks!  ;D

Date      Who           Loan     Payback  Due Date  Loan Address                        Repayment Address                   Location
--------  ------------  -------  -------  --------  ----------------------------------  ----------------------------------  -----------------
01/25/12  gurg2.o         20.00    21.00  02/03/12  15D2uoPut7QbHUKDUtLSXXJfzWvzDvnni8  1JM8xWPuGbW8JnoE61S2YLs9TU3Gpmzyab  LA area, CA
03/28/12  bcjunkie        15.00    15.00  04/02/12  14g8TeohrrTEbsdDAY3EAdiXdzRNZR3Qc3  1BGnM58gzxyvfSeSirzos8zYoSgapSHM8M  Bowling Green, KY

Bad Debts SOLD

Date      Who           Loan     Payback  Due Date  Loan Address                        Repayment Address                   Sold to
--------  ------------  -------  -------  --------  ----------------------------------  ----------------------------------  -----------------
01/29/12  doubleicaras    25.00    28.75  03/06/12  1F6MCoBMwmfpT5fruvCUjirFEybhLe5c1C  12xVb1Z13XQ2ZXTkDQaJcVcoEUzvC81BFU  eroxors

Updated again!

Shakaru

He'll get the top of the list once I figure out how much does he owe everyone. Any concise figures?

Added according to the spreadsheet you've done.

AncientX | Jr. Member | 62.5BBTC

ETA: This hasn't been updated in half a year, but includes some defaults, as well as lendees who repaid on time. All loans with "Were Payments Late" marked as "N/A" were repaid (AFAIK), I just didn't ask senbonzakura if each individual loan was repaid on time exactly as the contract specified. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ao892S4MOoDZdHNzNzVYdVg5UVhybHJMRlJTelBuTUE&output=html

Added AncientX . Is everything in the spreadsheet up to date? I don't want to mistake a defaulted loan from a late but repaid loan.  ;)

Those were all defaulted on for over a month -- the ones from senbonzakura, anyway. I don't think I've seen any of those people ever reappear and I tend to be fairly active in the lending forum, so probably fairly safe to add the lump of 'em. (of course, on the same page, since those people have not reappeared, they're not using the same accounts, soo.....)

3K btc????? What's the story behind it?

I got hit by lxFlasHxl for 2 BTC with a repayment date of 8/25/11. Don't feel bad for me, though, since I've long since made it all back from the other limited amounts of lending that I've done.

Updated!

See : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=65989

How do you arrive at your figure? I calculated 2211.07786728 BTC for my thread.

I simply took the figure from https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnzolfvAaL97dGlQZjZmcFMwTzlmbWJNUHdyZnM4M2c#gid=0 . Not too sure whether to use the Distributions sheet or Balances sheet though.

edit: changed the figure again as it seems the spreadsheet is updated.

Nobody tried to use legal action against this 4K BTC guy?

No idea. It seems that guy (Andrew Nollan) is broke or something.

You must have included the USD values too then; that would explain the discrepancy. Since the USD value fluctuates, I would suggest excluding them.

Additionally, since some paybacks have occurred, I would write the value at 2211.07786728 (the one I used at my thread).

That would explain why the values keep fluctuating.  ;D I've used your value, thanks for pointing this out!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=88453.0 5BTC

Added another tard to my list. Scamming 0.5 btc is worth your time?

Let's see if we need to add pirate here

Add TheLastDovah.He scammed me out of 4 BTC and owed me 5BTC (due to 1BTC of interest) in bad loans.It'a likely he could be using alt accounts.

Interest doesn't count. Or those 2k loan should worth 10K by now

I simply mentioned all that for the sake of transparency.In either case I was scammed out of 4BTC in bad loans to TheLastDovah so he should be added as well so others know not to trust him.He also stopped using his account altogether a day before payback.He's probably moved on to another account by now.

Updated in the main thread.

Pirate40 has defaulted to Bitlane.

Was promised payment yesterday

That default is a late payment, not a lack of payment, as bitlane will eventually get his money back (not at the promised time, but eventually). This thread seems to be for lack of payment.

Correct. Only confirmed defaults (lender disappearing) is added here.

So how much time does Pirate have before he lands on this list?

Andrew Nollan is now scamming people in Washington over Craigslist with video cards.. YOUR videos cards (to the investors)

He moved to WA because his girlfriend lives there ( Moira Mosher ), so Im sure hes mooching off her someway, some how..


Current residence. as of August 2012

Room 7432 - top floor, second to last room from the south end
Crossland Economy Studios Tacoma
8801 South Hosmer Street
Tacoma, WA 98444 US

Previous addresses in CA associated with him..

16824 S Dalton Ave #A  -  A highschool friend named Jenny rents/owns this place
Gardena, CA
90247

If the criterion is "scammer", then whether or not Pirate belongs on this list remains to be seen, but he did default:

In finance, default occurs when a debtor has not met his or her legal obligations according to the debt contract, e.g. has not made a scheduled payment, or has violated a loan covenant (condition) of the debt contract
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Default_%28finance%29

Even if he repays Bitlane at some point, he still defaulted.
Just sayin.

Added this to the OP. Thanks! ;D

Too much ambiguity on that, so I'm basing this on either nanotube's bet result or Matthew's bet result to determine whether to add Pirate here.

Is Andrew a minor?  Did his mother sign for his debts?  If neither of these are true, then dox'ing her here is uncalled for and shouldn't be supported.

where on craigslist are his ads located?

Pirate.

 :D

I'm adding him as per theymos' guidelines - after the bet with Vandroiy and Matthew has been settled. That should be in this couple of weeks so it's not too distant anyhow.

At what point do we add Hashking to this list?

please add nckrazze, hashking, ineededausername, imsaguy, and kluge to the list.

Please add MATTHEW N. WRIGHT at the top of the list

Just because you're mad at me doesn't mean I've defaulted on anything.  ::)

Added snapman to the accusations thread a while ago, forgot to mention here, please add to the list.
Borrowed 20, to pay back 22, paid back 2.64.

Add pirate, he already got the scammer tag.

Per Maged, he seems to have made off with 200000 BTC. Much less than the paper loss of 500000 BTC, but still very significant. I believe this surpassed, even if only slightly, MyBitcoin in terms of USD value stolen.

Snapman Received scammer tag 09/14/12

Why is pirate not here? I thought you said it would be done after 3 weeks

For the record, at this time no completely valid estimate seems to exist. Maged's blockchain analysis reveals 200000 BTC as an estimate, and paper loss reveals 500000 BTC as an upper bound. Aside from this, I don't think any definite values are known.

new scammer has emerged:

DEAL:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112615.0
WOT:   http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=TheTruthx

known aliases: dragonx cecil Bitman dknys dkny toocool ezekiell ninjaD ninjaA. New Names include: thetruthx, btchips, databits, jsmoothbtc

He is constantly making new nicks.  This is why people need to use gettrust, not getrating when deciding to trade with people.

could we get kingkatari listed as defaulter?

he owes me 31 btc in principle and 5.83.  has never made a payment.  loan began on 8/5, 9% charged each 5th of month, payments due each 10th of the month (8/10, 9/10)
he seems to owe starsoccer 31 as well
I believe there are 1 or 2 others in #bitcoin-otc that he owes 31 or more to.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=113786.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96371.0  (loan request he posted on bitcointalk before going to #bitcoin-otc for lenders)

RustyRyan's 3.0% Weekly Term Deposits
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=96163.0

Stop paying interest and capital

Still no pirate!

I call for a scammer tag for pay.btc - here is my post in BitcoinMax thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83904.msg1298470#msg1298470) less than 24 hours ago


Am I out of line here? 

I want this thread or any better thread which clearly says in bold letters, forcing users to read more than 1-2 times, that a lot of scams can happen in Bitcoin, so BE CAREFUL.................

This must be the 1st post, a member MUST read once they register this forum.
It may affect Bitcoin reputation or future or what ever it is, but it will at least help newbies not to get scammed instantly.

As I've argued elsewhere, pay.btc would have breached his agreement with his depositors had he forwarded anyone's information to Pirate. His agreement with his depositors was not in default and is not in default. That agreement still controls how repayments from Pirate are distributed.

As for the lack of communication, not only is there nothing to say, but there's not even the remotest chance this has harmed anyone. There's been no recovery from Pirate yet.

I agree with you that he probably should return some profits to his depositors, but I don't see how him not doing so could be considered scamming.

If anyone would like to add to the list, please do post in the following format:


for each of the users.


Added to the list.
Loan taken out at btcjam and verified as forum member too. Tulkas is the operator of BTCJam btw.

Added to the list.


Please give me an exact value (approximations would do I guess) for Pirate's scam amount.

Please give me an exact value to be added to the list.

If it's possible, please provide me with the total account scammed.

Could Zack be added to the list?

Total loan 3 BTC.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=103840.msg1199233#msg1199233


Greetz

Username : LionHeart
Forum Rank: Jr
Bitcoins Defaulted: 26BTC

Please add LionHeart to the list of scammers... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121012.0

He borrowed 26 BTC from me and never paid back even post extension.

He used the following ID to do the transaction.
http://postimage.org/image/6j40kfzhz/

Updated

I think what you need here is a database...

People enter the amount/details into a simple front end, THEN it is approved for viewing by the moderators.

It's going to be way less work, plus you would be able to sort by name location/ amount etc, plus it could then be linked into the forum membership fairly easily

noobularkid
Jr. Member
10 BTC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99233.0

very good idea, simple, and could be easy to use.

I've wanted a similar "scammer database" for a while.  they could share a common base.

It's easy to make stuff like this with Google forms

Form
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dDRDQUhrUmxnd2NXZTBrSTJXN3h5cVE6MQ

Spreadsheet database
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aia046wonHIgdDRDQUhrUmxnd2NXZTBrSTJXN3h5cVE

Trouble is anyone can post anything there, while here you need to be registered on the forum...

Updated, thanks!

Updated, thanks!

If you have facebook pages for confirmed defaulter i will make a photo on my site with the names of offenders. It is bitcoin friends on facebook. We have a scammer wall i could make a defaulter one too. I also have a hero wall if anyone want to added, they can interview.

Requesting removal of my name there's no reason of listing me there i paid it back long time ago!

I'll need confirmation that you paid the loan back first.

Tell me how...just found out that he is banned

No, he wasn't banned. Also, when did you pay back the loan, and what transaction ID?

He was dude...few months ago already i sent it from tor so i don't have the id also i am not in mood proving you something that you have no clue of and has been already done, really.
Peace

In case you didn't notice it, scammer tagged people can still post and PM.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=26841

09/08/12   jme621   41.00

Please add this to his total.

Will do so after I have access to the Excel file.

He has only ceased posting after he was labeled a scammer. Also, you've a loan with Kluge outstanding too, right?

I have confirmation from eroxors, who purchased your debt with Kluge that you're still not repaying him back. (and probably Patrick too) I'll amend the list tomorrow to add your loan with him too.

Add wJohnnyw to the list for 2BTC. See thread here if needed: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139436.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=139436.0)

Just wanted to point you to this thread. I should probably able to help you with my service at a discount for btc members.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138866 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138866)

Legitnick 39 days late on 7.5 btc loan...

DPony13 is well over 35 days late on repayment of a .7BTC Loan  :(

dayasinfo scammed me for usd 2050. see this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157998.0

I am trying to fight this now.

See what happens when you trust the WRONG kind of newbies and blame the right ones (me) ??

How do we know if you're the 'right one'? For all we know, you could be him.

Poverty must suck :'(

I would like to offer my services. Call me a bounty hunter. I live in Southern CA (the most populated part of the country's most populated state). If you were scammed by someone and know where they reside (at least broadly), I will pursue them within 100 miles of where I live. I'm never one to "jump the gun". I'll do some recon work first. As far as approaching the subject, of course I will not do so with any sort of violent weapon/threat. I will, though, approach them at a moment they can't possibly make a run for it (at their place of work, with family, etc). I am 100% confident I can get them to pay. If what it takes is regular visits, that's what I'll do. But I don't think it will-I'll corner them at an extremely vulnerable moment, they'll have to pay up (I'll even let them use my computer ;) If they don't have the funds (not "I don't have the funds"-of they actually don't ;) I won't leave until a payment plan is worked out. And like I said, if it requires check-ups, I'll do check-ups. I'm actually excited at the thought of this. I just graduated undergrad and am thinking about mastering in Criminology and become a private investigator.
Of course, I can't tell you how much I would charge for the service-there's far too many variables. It would all depend on the work and time required. Although, keep in mind that I'm aware I'm not a Private Investigator...I'm just a college grad-for now. If a case is simple, I'd just ask for a fee. If its not and requires "check ups", etc, I would ask for a small percentage of the balance due. 
So, if you've been scammed by someone you know resides in Southern California and want to do something about it, send me a PM!

I have someone for you.  They live in the LA area.  I will dig up all the details and send you a PM.  I have written off the entire debt already so if you can get me anything at all it will be much appreciated.  If you get them to pay you can use this as advertising!

Thanks for the list

Keep up the good work

LottoPool : Took loan of 0.5 btc , 2 days overdue . Does not replies to any pm  >:(

Thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223890.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=223890.0)

I am pretty sure pizza has no intention to give me my 4.4 Bitcoin
(lent 4)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234452.msg2619702#msg2619702

he now starts a "Newbie group buy"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250492.msg2659802#msg2659802
So I think he should get a scammer tag soon.

I can provide ?his? passport with a note of lending me 4 BTC to an administrator or moderator to prove that he lent me the coins.
At the moment I am quite busy and haven't got the time to deal with him, but I would like to know if its ok to release info from this passport to prevent other people from giving him a loan if he creates a new account.

 :o
Shakaru   Donator/Hero Member   2211.07786728
Wow...

If he has defaulted on the loan, it is OK to release his information.  This activity is done all the time.

Interestingly most of them are Jr. Members :P
Go figure!

And a donator/hero. Shows that you shouldn't go by post count.

Add StreakfortheBTC. He scammed 1.35 BTC. (1 BTC original loan with 0.35 BTC interest).

thx,very helpful

Please read the thread in it's entirety.

I have never scammed or stolen anyone's identity. I am a new member and understand why Lophie got "scared," but if you read my post on Lophie's thread you can see I am straight as an arrow.

I have PMed Lophie and hopefully this will be resolved tomorrow.

Thank you.


Vod Is Abusing His Power

Much of the trouble is caused by Vod. I am not the only one he has harrassed, and he does so incessantly and without proof.
If a Mod wants to get involved I would be very grateful. Vod trolls me and is attempting to cause strife in my borrowers by posting untrue neg feedback on me, which he has changed at least 5 different times to fit the lie he is pushing at the time. He also posts in threads of my borrowers trying to scare them. He did this to i3lome's loan thread and was unsuccessful. The loan was funded in it's entirety by me.

Personal Attacks By Vod On Me and My Religion

Also, Vod has made personal attacks against my religion. As a Christian, I posted in the defaming thread Vod made about me in the lending section that I would forgive him if he stopped lying, in the face of evidence that I never did any of the things he accused me of. His response was saying I was a member of a cult (referring to Christianity as a cult).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=299109.msg3208118#msg3208118

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=258268.msg3211971#msg3211971


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=297011.msg3208843#msg3208843

Honestly, Tomatocage, I know he helps you go through the lending forum to find potential scammers, and looking over his posts and feedback, he does a good job [most] of the time. It's unfortunate however, that he has made the wrong assertion regarding me, and refuses to correct it.

Completed Loans

Please be fair and see that I have only made two loans, but both are successful:

One to i3lome for 4 BTC, and one to russianbusinessman3 for 3 BTC. Both were funded by me. I admit I fund late sometimes (1 day), but that is because I am new to Bitcoin and still getting the hang of transferring Bitcoins using Localbitcoins and the wallets. This is basically what happened with Lophie.


Vod's Untrue Negative Feedback

What really irks me, Tomatocage, is that Vod has changed his neg feedback on my trust profile to this lie:


1. He says I am an identity proof when this is not true and their is no evidence to support it. In fact i3lome has refuted this to Vod directly, but Vod ignores the facts.
I have never asked for social security numbers, ever. I have never asked for bank account info or passports. Lophie, being outside the USA, offered his passport as ID, and I obliged.
2. I have never PMed anyone in Newbie forum who has not started a thread requesting a loan. In fact, the only PM I have made on the newbie forum was to russianbusinessman3 who started a loan thread, and who I successfully loaned to, all public record in the thread.
3. No users have reported I ask for social security numbers, because I never have asked. Please check my PMs, outgoing and ingoing, my posts, and you will see nothing of the sort. I do suspect Vod setup a sockpuppet account and sent himself a PM saying something of the sort to try and incriminate me, but this is easily exposed by looking at that account and seeing I never even contacted them.
4. He started harassing me on i3lome's thread when I answered his baiting question. He asked me why I felt confident lending i3lome even after he rejected lending to him. I stated I have a friend who is an attorney, and was going to help with a contract. Upon me saying those words Vod went on a rampage saying I was a scammer because I was lying. In an extortion like move, he gave me bad neg feedback, only saying he would remove it if I had my friend contact him. I let him know this was an unreasonable request, and I was not going to subject my friend to him, after he defamed me without cause. After all his defaming, I was still able to loan i3lome the amount he requested.
I was fair enough to tell Vod, that if he really felt me saying I had a friend who is an attorney gives me an unfair advantage in lending, I would remove all references to it. Instead of answering me he locks the thread he started just to defame me, and calls me a scammer.
All this, and the fact is that the loan with i3lome was already agreed upon before I mentioned my friend. Classic baiting by Vod.
And really, is the bar set so low, that saying you have a friend look over a contract, who is an attorney, that improbable?
5. Saying I'm in a cult is seriously hateful. He has already stated he hates religion, but this is no excuse to say I am involved in calling my Christian religion a cult. This is just inflammatory, would not be tolerated in an office setting, and should not be tolerated online.


I thank you for your time Tamatocage and trust you will be fair.

I would like to move on from this and continue lending to the Bitcoin community. I do this for fun on the side as a hobby in addition to my full time job. I never thought I would be attacked like this from someone who is in a position of trust in the community (Vod), but unfortunately that is what happened. I hope for a positive resolution and to continue helping people :)

P.S. If you would like to talk on the phone, I will gladly PM you my phone number. I am a businessman, so you can imagine how dealing with accusation of scamming is definitely a shock, and not conducive of my nature. Thanks again for your time.

Sorry it hurts your feelings princess, but Christianity is a cult.  Go look up the definition.

I would think the weekly brainwashing would give you a thicker skin.  :-\

The rest?  Absolute BS.  Consider the source - I won't feed this troll further in this thread.

I will let Vod's post speak for itself :D :D :D :D :D :D


BTW, the Catholic Church invites you to an exorcism ;)

Never seen a scammer dobing in on other fellow scammers before lol

Can I has wall of shame?? ;D