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Title: Scam website: mtgix.com
Post by: PoorGirl on August 06, 2012, 05:32:18 AM
Hi

I just saw this website sells Bitcoins, can it be trusted ? I found no discussion about it here.



mod edit: edited out the scam site


Title: Re: Can you trust this website: mtgix.com
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 06, 2012, 05:37:08 AM
Hi

I just saw this website sells Bitcoins, can it be trusted ? I found no discussion about it here.

No, it is a  scam.

The same operator scammer used to run Easzpay, and then had MtGax for about two days before it got shut down.

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98251.0


Title: Re: Can you trust this website: mtgix.com
Post by: ArticMine on August 06, 2012, 06:10:22 AM
A classic typosquat targeted to the Bitcoin community. For that reason alone I would very much suspect scam.


Title: Re: Can you trust this website: mtgix.com
Post by: drakahn on August 06, 2012, 06:20:32 AM
Hi

I just saw this website sells Bitcoins, can it be trusted ? I found no discussion about it here.

No, it is a  scam.

The same operator scammer used to run Easzpay, and then had MtGax for about two days before it got shut down.

 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98251.0

is OP said scammer trying to get google linked?


Title: Re: Scam website: mtgix.com
Post by: CoinCidental on August 06, 2012, 11:50:36 AM
the real mtgox should report it ASAP


Title: Re: Scam website: mtgix.com
Post by: MagicalTux on August 06, 2012, 01:59:48 PM
the real mtgox should report it ASAP


We did, but hosting provider is in China with US servers, but US company won't do anything. Registrar is also in China.

In the meantime you can still help: http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_badware/?url=http://mtgix.com/


Title: Re: Scam website: mtgix.com
Post by: chmod755 on August 06, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
In the meantime you can still help: http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_badware/?url=http://mtgix.com/

Done.

Also: http://toolbar.netcraft.com/report_url?url=http://www.mtgix.com
and: http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/mtgix.com


Title: Re: Scam website: mtgix.com
Post by: CoinCidental on August 06, 2012, 02:37:21 PM
the real mtgox should report it ASAP


We did, but hosting provider is in China with US servers, but US company won't do anything. Registrar is also in China.

In the meantime you can still help: http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/report_badware/?url=http://mtgix.com/

is there not the icaan or some asscoiation  responsible for ALL web domain re-sellers  ?
if the chinese  registrar allows them to operate after being reported they should be fined or suspended from
being able to sell domains


Title: Re: Scam website: mtgix.com
Post by: MagicalTux on August 06, 2012, 09:40:38 PM
is there not the icaan or some asscoiation  responsible for ALL web domain re-sellers  ?
if the chinese  registrar allows them to operate after being reported they should be fined or suspended from
being able to sell domains

We reported, but ICANN gives 45 days for the registrar to take action. Chances are that by then the website will not be up anyway.


Title: Re: Scam website: mtgix.com
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 06, 2012, 11:04:55 PM
We reported, but ICANN gives 45 days for the registrar to take action. Chances are that by then the website will not be up anyway.

It might be worth the $10 to do a charge (1 bitcoin ~= $10), paying with credit card, and then issue a chargeback when the bitcoin isn't delivered.  Full screenshots taken.

That way PayPal will be more likely to suspend the account and freeze the funds.

The fact that the account hasn't been frozen yet by PayPal is something utterly bizarre to me.  This is the third site using the same account.  I was thinking perhaps this might be a honeypot for catching carders perhaps as one plausible explanation.  The spelling mistakes, etc., all a disguise perhaps?

Who knows.


Title: Re: Scam website: mtgix.com
Post by: rjk on August 06, 2012, 11:40:59 PM
We reported, but ICANN gives 45 days for the registrar to take action. Chances are that by then the website will not be up anyway.

It might be worth the $10 to do a charge (1 bitcoin ~= $10), paying with credit card, and then issue a chargeback when the bitcoin isn't delivered.  Full screenshots taken.

That way PayPal will be more likely to suspend the account and freeze the funds.

The fact that the account hasn't been frozen yet by PayPal is something utterly bizarre to me.  This is the third site using the same account.  I was thinking perhaps this might be a honeypot for catching carders perhaps as one plausible explanation.  The spelling mistakes, etc., all a disguise perhaps?

Who knows.
I recall someone trying this last time, and paypal not complying with the chargeback because bitcoin? ??? I don't recall the specifics.


Title: Re: Scam website: mtgix.com
Post by: Stephen Gornick on August 07, 2012, 12:06:18 AM
It might be worth the $10 to do a charge (1 bitcoin ~= $10), paying with credit card, and then issue a chargeback when the bitcoin isn't delivered.  Full screenshots taken.
[...]
I recall someone trying this last time, and paypal not complying with the chargeback because bitcoin? ??? I don't recall the specifics.

Hence "with credit card".  Which means you want to drain the account first before doing this.  And probably not from an account that has a bank account linked.  As a courtesy to PayPal (and to protect from further griefing by PayPal) you might wish to go through PayPal's dispute method first.  But if they don't comply, then you escalate it to the card issuer.  You probably won't want to carry a balance with PayPal again after doing that though.