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Title: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: FM-2030 on August 06, 2012, 06:35:25 AM
There have been some signs that US Federal sees Bitcoin as a problem. When the US and its supporters have a problem, they usually call upon the CIA. The CIA has destroyed several organizations, groups and economies (foreign and domestic) internally through manipulation of key members, suppliers and so forth.

Have you suspected any CIA activity directly or indirectly in Bitcoin-related affairs?


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Vladimir on August 06, 2012, 06:49:41 AM
It seems that US Federal sees Bittorent as a problem as well. How are they doing with destroying that?

CIA: Hey, Vladimir, here is a suitcase full of cash, do your damnest to destroy Bitcoin.
Vladimir: OK, cool. It's a deal, I'll troll on bitcointalk much harder from now on.


 ;D



Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: drakahn on August 06, 2012, 06:50:21 AM
inb4 pirate is cia


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Kazimir on August 06, 2012, 07:51:07 AM
The CIA has destroyed several organizations, groups and economies (foreign and domestic) internally through manipulation of key members, suppliers and so forth.
It would be fun, seeing them attempting to destroy bitcoin.

Especially since there are no key members, suppliers and so forth.

Bitcoin is just technological advancement waiting to happen. Can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Sorry mister CIA government banker, you lose.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: JingleBalls on August 06, 2012, 08:54:38 AM
Have you suspected any CIA activity directly or indirectly in Bitcoin-related affairs?

Nope.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: John (John K.) on August 06, 2012, 09:22:07 AM
It seems that US Federal sees Bittorent as a problem as well. How are they doing with destroying that?

CIA: Hey, Vladimir, here is a suitcase full of cash, do your damnest to destroy Bitcoin.
Vladimir: OK, cool. It's a deal, I'll troll on bitcointalk much harder from now on.


 ;D


:o So you've got the suitcase as Atlas did? I'm applying for one too after I manage to eradicate Atlas first. *adds Vladimir to the list*

 ;D

There have been some signs that US Federal sees Bitcoin as a problem. When the US and its supporters have a problem, they usually call upon the CIA. The CIA has destroyed several organizations, groups and economies (foreign and domestic) internally through manipulation of key members, suppliers and so forth.

Have you suspected any CIA activity directly or indirectly in Bitcoin-related affairs?

Back on topic, no. They'll be targeting SR directly (and having a heck of a headache in this case) , and not the legitimate users of this technology.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Cryptonite on August 06, 2012, 11:09:55 AM
And then you have companies like Intersango openly inviting Big Brother to regulate Bitcoins.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Graet on August 06, 2012, 11:20:56 AM
And then you have companies like Intersango openly inviting Big Brother to regulate Bitcoins.
and then you have the people that think because Bitcoin is semi anonymous companies on the fiat/Bitcoin interface (exchanges) can some how avoid following the regulations of the country they operate in related to fiat monies....

face the facts keep it in Bitcoins or prepare to deal with legislation, nearly all countries now have AML/KYC type legislation
I know you don't care if people operating exchanges go to jail to protect your anonymity - just curious as why you would think they would want to... afaik it isn't a very profitable enterprise


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: pompeii on August 06, 2012, 11:28:56 AM
I wonder how much damage they could do by buying large amounts of coins and then selling them off in an attempt to create and pop bubbles.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Kazimir on August 06, 2012, 11:48:55 AM
I wonder how much damage they could do by buying large amounts of coins and then selling them off in an attempt to create and pop bubbles.
In that scenario, most of that damage would be to their own money reserves :)


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Kazimir on August 06, 2012, 11:49:33 AM
And then you have companies like Intersango openly inviting Big Brother to regulate Bitcoins.
What are you talking about?


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: CoinCidental on August 06, 2012, 12:15:52 PM
And then you have companies like Intersango openly inviting Big Brother to regulate Bitcoins.
and then you have the people that think because Bitcoin is semi anonymous companies on the fiat/Bitcoin interface (exchanges) can some how avoid following the regulations of the country they operate in related to fiat monies....

face the facts keep it in Bitcoins or prepare to deal with legislation, nearly all countries now have AML/KYC type legislation
I know you don't care if people operating exchanges go to jail to protect your anonymity - just curious as why you would think they would want to... afaik it isn't a very profitable enterprise

ask zhou tong if holding other peoples deposits of  BTC and cash is a profitable enterprise or not :)


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: barbarousrelic on August 06, 2012, 12:22:40 PM
The Bitcoin economy is currently a tiny fraction of the smallest thing the CIA would bother their time with.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 06, 2012, 12:26:36 PM
And then you have companies like Intersango openly inviting Big Brother to regulate Bitcoins.

And yet they strangely still havent reported the bitcoinica theft to the authorities....


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: cryptoanarchist on August 06, 2012, 12:31:28 PM
Of course the CIA/Freemasons are here. They are some of the key players.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Nyhm on August 06, 2012, 02:02:10 PM
There have been some signs that US Federal sees Bitcoin as a problem. When the US and its supporters have a problem, they usually call upon the CIA. The CIA has destroyed several organizations, groups and economies (foreign and domestic) internally through manipulation of key members, suppliers and so forth.

Have you suspected any CIA activity directly or indirectly in Bitcoin-related affairs?

Clearly this is the CIA probing to ascertain whether their infiltration has yet been detected/suspected.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: CoinCidental on August 06, 2012, 02:41:19 PM
There have been some signs that US Federal sees Bitcoin as a problem. When the US and its supporters have a problem, they usually call upon the CIA. The CIA has destroyed several organizations, groups and economies (foreign and domestic) internally through manipulation of key members, suppliers and so forth.

Have you suspected any CIA activity directly or indirectly in Bitcoin-related affairs?

Clearly this is the CIA probing to ascertain whether their infiltration has yet been detected/suspected.

its pretty much 100% guaranteed important  people are watching bitcoin with articles like this being printed :

http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/onepercent/2012/08/silk-road-bitcoin-illegal.html


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Shadow383 on August 07, 2012, 12:12:11 AM
You've got to remember that bitcoin is small-fry.

If it wasn't, it would be an absolutely trivial matter for a US governmental agency to use a 51% attack or something similar to bring down the network. They have some of the brightest minds in coding, and a eleven-figure budgets, we wouldn't stand a chance.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Hexadecibel on August 07, 2012, 05:32:33 AM
You've got to remember that bitcoin is small-fry.

If it wasn't, it would be an absolutely trivial matter for a US governmental agency to use a 51% attack or something similar to bring down the network. They have some of the brightest minds in coding, and a eleven-figure budgets, we wouldn't stand a chance.

tell that to the piratebay


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: danster82 on August 07, 2012, 09:58:18 AM
The CIA loves bitcoins, they use em for all their internal gambling.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Vladimir on August 07, 2012, 11:48:03 AM
Didn't you know? Satoshi Nakamoto is a code name for their "past fed funding project"! It like a full department of PhD's.



Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 07, 2012, 11:52:18 AM
I wouldnt be surprised if pirate is CIA in which case they are attempting to cheaply buy all the bitcoins  :)


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: PayPal on August 07, 2012, 01:44:43 PM
I am the CIA! Bow down to my supremacy, and grovel for my marketshare!


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: doobadoo on August 07, 2012, 03:52:42 PM
I wonder how much damage they could do by buying large amounts of coins and then selling them off in an attempt to create and pop bubbles.

Wouldn't work.  They people "in" on it would likely front run the op.  Also be a hard use of funds to justify, would smell too much like banking agency cash into their own pockets.  But then again, thats how a lot of government works: figuring out ways to bank public funds into private pockets.


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: doobadoo on August 07, 2012, 03:56:50 PM
You've got to remember that bitcoin is small-fry.

If it wasn't, it would be an absolutely trivial matter for a US governmental agency to use a 51% attack or something similar to bring down the network. They have some of the brightest minds in coding, and a eleven-figure budgets, we wouldn't stand a chance.

You give "them" too much credit.  I know they look good right now, you know landing that SUV on the Martian surface and all.  But the fact remains: the current hash rate of Bitcoin greatly exceeds the power of the fastest know supercomputer.   Additionally, a 51% attack doesn't destroy Bitcoin outright.  It only allows them to interfere with the generation of new blocks, eg, they can block transactions and monopolize the block reward.   In *theory* many miners would drop once they hit a point that it became futile to mine (eg, a SUSTAINED 51%+ attack), but i got a feeling that people dont' like getting rolled and you'd see hash rates rise to whatever challenge threatens Bitcoin!


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: CoinCidental on August 07, 2012, 04:38:53 PM
You've got to remember that bitcoin is small-fry.

If it wasn't, it would be an absolutely trivial matter for a US governmental agency to use a 51% attack or something similar to bring down the network. They have some of the brightest minds in coding, and a eleven-figure budgets, we wouldn't stand a chance.

You give "them" too much credit.  I know they look good right now, you know landing that SUV on the Martian surface and all.  But the fact remains: the current hash rate of Bitcoin greatly exceeds the power of the fastest know supercomputer.   Additionally, a 51% attack doesn't destroy Bitcoin outright.  It only allows them to interfere with the generation of new blocks, eg, they can block transactions and monopolize the block reward.   In *theory* many miners would drop once they hit a point that it became futile to mine (eg, a SUSTAINED 51%+ attack), but i got a feeling that people dont' like getting rolled and you'd see hash rates rise to whatever challenge threatens Bitcoin!

If people (like minder in the btc community ) had more hashing power ,why would they wait until an attack ?
they could just  add that power to the network now and take the rewards ?


Title: Re: CIA Activity in the Bitcoin Ecosystem
Post by: Shadow383 on August 08, 2012, 09:11:48 AM
You've got to remember that bitcoin is small-fry.

If it wasn't, it would be an absolutely trivial matter for a US governmental agency to use a 51% attack or something similar to bring down the network. They have some of the brightest minds in coding, and a eleven-figure budgets, we wouldn't stand a chance.

You give "them" too much credit.  I know they look good right now, you know landing that SUV on the Martian surface and all.  But the fact remains: the current hash rate of Bitcoin greatly exceeds the power of the fastest know supercomputer.   Additionally, a 51% attack doesn't destroy Bitcoin outright.  It only allows them to interfere with the generation of new blocks, eg, they can block transactions and monopolize the block reward.   In *theory* many miners would drop once they hit a point that it became futile to mine (eg, a SUSTAINED 51%+ attack), but i got a feeling that people dont' like getting rolled and you'd see hash rates rise to whatever challenge threatens Bitcoin!
I'm just saying, if a company as small as butterfly labs can knock up a hundred terahash in ASICs for a few million and several months' work, then so can just about any government agency.