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"The murder rate went up when Britain passed gun control."

"That's a ridiculous example!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=spW21fM8Wow#!

Australia has some of the worlds strictest gun laws and the worlds highest rate of burglaries.

Probably completely unrelated. ;)

It's not worth killing a human being over a burglary. It's just stuff that can be replaced.

Likewise, it's not worth risking getting killed over a burglary.

That's not a burglary. Burglars run away. Home invasions are another matter, but they are too rare to worry about.

Burglars also don't enter homes where there might be an armed occupant.

This.

Well.


Murder went up after lifting of apartheid.  Guess that's what happens when The Man stops doing his job.

Moral
Guns good.  Equality bad.

 :D

So you would kill a desperate person just looking to feed their family? Is your shit really worth more than human lives? We are talking about burglars, not armed robbers.

A burglar would get one shotgun pump as a warning. If they didn't scurry off while pissing in their pants like any sensible person, I'd assume they are there to harm, and act accordingly.

So you would kill a desperate person just looking to feed their family? Is your shit really worth more than human lives? We are talking about burglars, not armed robbers.
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Gotta love the straw man argument.  By your reasoning, burglars only enter a home while you are not present, however, many burglars are discovered by a resident returning home.  At this point they are caught and quite scarred.  Have you ever heard the saying that a nervous dog is more dangerous than a mean one?  It is simply because they are unpredictable.  What is to stop the "family man" burglar from grabbing a kitchen knife or table lamp and removing the witness?  Personal possessions are really meaningless in such a situation.  Also most reports I see of burglaries, the perpetrator has been caught before or is suspected in other B&Es.  Not the ideal image of someone trying to feed their family.  I mean how many flat screens does it take to feed a family for a year?

If I were particularly charitable, the first load would be rock salt. Give them one more chance to re-think their priorities.

Defending person and property = population control = green.


Wow, I'm an environmentalist.

I find it funny that you start an argument about guns after seeing this piece of shit propaganda video.

What you're just listened to is not an interview about gus it's US government propaganda, my argument for gun has just been made.

Lol guys, we already have a 30 page gun debate thread ;)

Does it count if you use a shotgun sound from Halo on full speaker ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wG9yAgFZNY&feature=related

Hilarious, that's exactly what I was going to link to.

Killers are out there, but they mostly work for gangs and cartels. There are a lot of thieves and they rarely get caught in progress. They case the area and know when to get in and out. They get caught with the goods later or during a drug bust. They only get surprised in the home in movies. Besides, shoplifting is the big thing now because there is hardly any risk and penalties are minimum. I'm not saying you shouldn't have a gun in the home, but there's no reason to go all Rambo. Criminals these days are more afraid of cell phones than guns.

If somebody came into my home, they'd get one warning shot. If they choose not to leave, that's their perogative and they'll be treated as a threat to my family and dealt with.

Just make sure you're in a "castle" state.

No, he should leave the "Criminal's Rights" states. ;)