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Title: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Rowshan73 on March 14, 2015, 09:30:02 AM
I know very well that a faucet mainly run by advertisement. Many faucet owners continuously requesting the users to click the ads. Some one like http://bitcoinpuddle.com/faucet threatening users to click ads otherwise they will not disburse the winning amount.

It is a common saying that Google always band a click sense account if the account holder openly request users to click the ads. I think for this reason maximum faucet owner run scammers ads in their sites & keep requesting to click them. These double or triple or even more folds making ads are too much addictive and alluring that some simple newbie fall in their traps, subsequently lost all their deposits.

My question to the faucets owners, can't they stop showing those scmmers advertisement to help general users?

My request to facets users, when you visit a faucet for some free coins please click 1/2 legal ads so they may run properly without the help of some cheat multifolderer.     
 


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: wadili89 on March 14, 2015, 09:42:11 AM
google adsense kicked those publishers who ask for clicks in any way some other ads networks are not smart enought to detact all keywords around the ads


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: krigger on March 14, 2015, 10:37:55 AM
You don't have to click on any. Nobody can force you to click on ads. Nobody have rights on it, as it can be only a free choice by visitor.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: waterpile on March 14, 2015, 12:10:25 PM
some faucets owners doesn't care on what ads are being advertised as long as they pay them money. I've seen Ponzi sites being advertised in some bitcoin faucets.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: ajareselde on March 14, 2015, 12:14:20 PM
Nobody can force you to click anything, and they probably cant even see if you clicked or not, so no worries there.
imho faucet owners earn enough in regards to what effort they're putting into their sites, so this is just greed talking from their side.

If you see faucet site that asks of you to violate t.o.s. of ad providing company on their site, please report it to them, it is the only way to stop cheating owners.
If this activity stays and noone is fighting it, there's a good chance that even the honest running faucet sites will be not allowed to have their ads on site, and close down eventually.

cheers


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: wadili89 on March 14, 2015, 02:51:32 PM
You don't have to click on any. Nobody can force you to click on ads. Nobody have rights on it, as it can be only a free choice by visitor.

facuts owner force users to click on ads actully , likes "click on ads if you dont you will not be paid next hour" etc forcing like this so it probably get more click like this


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Sundark on March 14, 2015, 04:11:32 PM
Op if you know that this is borderline illegal and faucet creators are just mobbing you into clicking ads and doing other useless thing. Why do you even comply to them? If you just stop using faucet and others do the same that faucet is a goner.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Nude on March 14, 2015, 04:49:37 PM
Bitcoinpuddle is a scammer, withdrawal threshold keeps rising, first 10k satoshis then 20k -> 40K, now it's 60k.

He asks users to click ads in clear violation of any advertising network guidelines, he will lose is Adsense account.

Report him: https://support.google.com/adsense/troubleshooter/1190500?hl=en


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: KimNam on March 15, 2015, 02:06:18 AM
where's the statement that they force visitor to click their link?
i visited this faucet site and don't find it
if you see that, just take a screenshot and report it to google adsense program. Google will analyze this report and if they find it, adsense account (of this faucet owner) will be banned

and faucet owner didn't care about ads contains scam material. They only care about their income.
I remembered some big PTC faucet even promote scam and ponzi link because they paid PTC owner.
Too bad faucet owner didn't filter this scam before they accept the ads


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: bitbaby on March 15, 2015, 04:05:49 AM
I think you're talking about Anti-Ad-blockers which some of the faucet site has implemented. If it is so, it only asks you to disable ad-block so you can actually view the ads and don't just use the faucet but that doesn't mean you have to click on those ads.

And ads are everywhere, most sites have a warning that they don't endorse the ad. It's up to the user what he wishes to click or not.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: steven.G999 on March 15, 2015, 05:44:06 AM
google adsense kicked those publishers who ask for clicks in any way some other ads networks are not smart enought to detact all keywords around the ads

yes google adsense is very tight, like my friend who tried to click their own ads or asking friends to visit their website and clicking, but still all was detected  ;D


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: pooya87 on March 15, 2015, 10:50:39 AM
no one can force you to clock the advertisement on the faucet site and most probably they can't even keep track of it either. the worst thing they can do is put an adblocker detector.
besides if a faucet forces you to click the ads just don't visit that faucet and visit one of the hundreds of other faucets


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: RechargeSeller6 on March 15, 2015, 12:48:27 PM
no no one can force you to click on ads if any one say the report it on google or other ad network

... Yes faucet owner are also responsible to promote the scam sites
If faucet owner says clixk the ads then do not visit the faucet


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Rowshan73 on March 15, 2015, 01:22:12 PM
where's the statement that they force visitor to click their link?
i visited this faucet site and don't find it
if you see that, just take a screenshot and report it to google adsense program. Google will analyze this report and if they find it, adsense account (of this faucet owner) will be banned

and faucet owner didn't care about ads contains scam material. They only care about their income.
I remembered some big PTC faucet even promote scam and ponzi link because they paid PTC owner.
Too bad faucet owner didn't filter this scam before they accept the ads

Now ....puddles.com are saying,"Must Click this ad to continue getting high rewards" or"Must click ads to continue getting high rewards".
epay.info encouraging to click ads passively. Their language in this case is "Advertisements are a critical source of revenue. More faucet incomes, more bitcoins give out".


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Nude on March 15, 2015, 01:29:01 PM
What matters is the payment, and he his not paying, he just keeps raising withdrawal minimum amount, that's dishonest!


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: sgk on March 15, 2015, 06:08:03 PM
I know very well that a faucet mainly run by advertisement. Many faucet owners continuously requesting the users to click the ads. Some one like http://bitcoinpuddle.com/faucet threatening users to click ads otherwise they will not disburse the winning amount.

It is a common saying that Google always band a click sense account if the account holder openly request users to click the ads. I think for this reason maximum faucet owner run scammers ads in their sites & keep requesting to click them. These double or triple or even more folds making ads are too much addictive and alluring that some simple newbie fall in their traps, subsequently lost all their deposits.

My question to the faucets owners, can't they stop showing those scmmers advertisement to help general users?

My request to facets users, when you visit a faucet for some free coins please click 1/2 legal ads so they may run properly without the help of some cheat multifolderer.     
 

If forcing users to click on ads is a violation of AdSense terms, you can report such violation here:
https://support.google.com/adsense/troubleshooter/1190500

If your claim turn out to be genuine, Google may even ban the site from using AdSense. This might result in closing down the faucet as well.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Nude on March 15, 2015, 09:36:52 PM
I know very well that a faucet mainly run by advertisement. Many faucet owners continuously requesting the users to click the ads. Some one like http://bitcoinpuddle.com/faucet threatening users to click ads otherwise they will not disburse the winning amount.

It is a common saying that Google always band a click sense account if the account holder openly request users to click the ads. I think for this reason maximum faucet owner run scammers ads in their sites & keep requesting to click them. These double or triple or even more folds making ads are too much addictive and alluring that some simple newbie fall in their traps, subsequently lost all their deposits.

My question to the faucets owners, can't they stop showing those scmmers advertisement to help general users?

My request to facets users, when you visit a faucet for some free coins please click 1/2 legal ads so they may run properly without the help of some cheat multifolderer.    
  

If forcing users to click on ads is a violation of AdSense terms, you can report such violation here:
https://support.google.com/adsense/troubleshooter/1190500

If your claim turn out to be genuine, Google may even ban the site from using AdSense. This might result in closing down the faucet as well.

He doesn't force anything, he just doesn't pay!

And he is going to lose is Adsense account!

Also, announcement topic locked: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855833.0


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: jeffhuys on March 15, 2015, 09:50:07 PM
You don't have to click on any ads. They can't see if you've clicked on any ads or not. Try not to click on them even, they already pay out almost nothing at all.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: KimNam on March 16, 2015, 12:17:27 AM
where's the statement that they force visitor to click their link?
i visited this faucet site and don't find it
if you see that, just take a screenshot and report it to google adsense program. Google will analyze this report and if they find it, adsense account (of this faucet owner) will be banned

and faucet owner didn't care about ads contains scam material. They only care about their income.
I remembered some big PTC faucet even promote scam and ponzi link because they paid PTC owner.
Too bad faucet owner didn't filter this scam before they accept the ads

Now ....puddles.com are saying,"Must Click this ad to continue getting high rewards" or"Must click ads to continue getting high rewards".
epay.info encouraging to click ads passively. Their language in this case is "Advertisements are a critical source of revenue. More faucet incomes, more bitcoins give out".

i activated my adblock and getting this annoying message too :)
so they force visitor to click their ads because they want get revenue from that adsense. And they said they will keep / increase high rewards if visitor click ads.
Too bad, this is violation for google adsense campaign, already reported it to adsense. Hope they banned this faucet immediately


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Bitcoin_Mafia_Me on March 16, 2015, 11:33:54 AM
some faucets owners doesn't care on what ads are being advertised as long as they pay them money. I've seen Ponzi sites being advertised in some bitcoin faucets.

If a faucet owner is using an ad network (e.g. a-ads, adbit.co, beeads, bitclix, etc...) to serve up ads on their site, they don't
necessarily have direct control over what ads are being served. Some ad networks have *some* parameters than can be set
(e.g. don't show any adult ads), but it's not like the faucet owners can pick and choose which ads get served to their site and
which don't.

For anyone that uses faucets - *most* of these faucets are run by regular folks just like you and me. They are funding them
out of their own pockets and giving it away free to us. The least we can do to thank them is click on a couple of ads on their
sites.

I run two faucets myself, and I can tell you that my daily ad revenue doesn't even come close to covering even half of what
I pay out on a daily basis. But whatever income I *do* get from ads goes right back into the faucet.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Rowshan73 on March 16, 2015, 12:12:15 PM
some faucets owners doesn't care on what ads are being advertised as long as they pay them money. I've seen Ponzi sites being advertised in some bitcoin faucets.

If a faucet owner is using an ad network (e.g. a-ads, adbit.co, beeads, bitclix, etc...) to serve up ads on their site, they don't
necessarily have direct control over what ads are being served. Some ad networks have *some* parameters than can be set
(e.g. don't show any adult ads), but it's not like the faucet owners can pick and choose which ads get served to their site and
which don't.

For anyone that uses faucets - *most* of these faucets are run by regular folks just like you and me. They are funding them
out of their own pockets and giving it away free to us. The least we can do to thank them is click on a couple of ads on their
sites.

I run two faucets myself, and I can tell you that my daily ad revenue doesn't even come close to covering even half of what
I pay out on a daily basis. But whatever income I *do* get from ads goes right back into the faucet.

Brother, we general faucet visitors are not criminals. I hope everyone like me tries to hit ads often. But you cannot say hit the ads or your winning will be fortified or something like this. Unfortunately this particular faucet(.......puddle.com) also not paying. If you hit withdrawal button they continuously show "insufficient fund".
So, what will you say about their motive?


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Bitcoin_Mafia_Me on March 16, 2015, 12:48:20 PM
some faucets owners doesn't care on what ads are being advertised as long as they pay them money. I've seen Ponzi sites being advertised in some bitcoin faucets.

If a faucet owner is using an ad network (e.g. a-ads, adbit.co, beeads, bitclix, etc...) to serve up ads on their site, they don't
necessarily have direct control over what ads are being served. Some ad networks have *some* parameters than can be set
(e.g. don't show any adult ads), but it's not like the faucet owners can pick and choose which ads get served to their site and
which don't.

For anyone that uses faucets - *most* of these faucets are run by regular folks just like you and me. They are funding them
out of their own pockets and giving it away free to us. The least we can do to thank them is click on a couple of ads on their
sites.

I run two faucets myself, and I can tell you that my daily ad revenue doesn't even come close to covering even half of what
I pay out on a daily basis. But whatever income I *do* get from ads goes right back into the faucet.

Brother, we general faucet visitors are not criminals. I hope everyone like me tries to hit ads often. But you cannot say hit the ads or your winning will be fortified or something like this. Unfortunately this particular faucet(.......puddle.com) also not paying. If you hit withdrawal button they continuously show "insufficient fund".
So, what will you say about their motive?

Insufficient funds doesn't mean that they are holding your payouts hostage. It means that there are
no funds in the faucet at that time. My own faucets run dry (often in the middle of the night while I
am asleep) and display that message until I am able to transfer more coins in.

As far as *requiring* users to click on ads, yes I agree with you that that is wrong. It not only
goes against the terms of every single ad network out there, but it is unethical in that it tends
to mislead users.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Kakmakr on March 16, 2015, 01:29:18 PM
I know the Banner Ads on freebitco.in gets checked and approved before it's active on the faucet. I have had several Banner Ads with them, so I know this for a fact.
The problem come in with the other companies you use to pay for the Ad's. ^Sad^ Adbitco had some porn sites slip through a while ago, and it caused some embarrassment at my work. ^LoL^


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Bitcoin_Mafia_Me on March 16, 2015, 01:32:41 PM
I know the Banner Ads on freebitco.in gets checked and approved before it's active on the faucet. I have had several Banner Ads with them, so I know this for a fact.
The problem come in with the other companies you use to pay for the Ad's. ^Sad^ Adbitco had some porn sites slip through a while ago, and it caused some embarrassment at my work. ^LoL^

That is FreeBitco. They have their own internal ad network, so yes - they have the ability to approve ads. Those
websites that use ad networks like the ones I listed - the kind where you sign up, define ad positions, and paste
some iframe code - they don't have the ability to pick and choose the ads they display.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: grosminer on March 16, 2015, 08:06:42 PM
I know very well that a faucet mainly run by advertisement. Many faucet owners continuously requesting the users to click the ads. [....]

My question to the faucets owners, can't they stop showing those scmmers advertisement to help general users?

My request to facets users, when you visit a faucet for some free coins please click 1/2 legal ads so they may run properly without the help of some cheat multifolderer.     
 

You're right, faucet owners shouldn't use cheap tricks or asks users to click on ads..

AND faucets users should clicks on ads once in a while.. just as a way to say thanks and keep the faucet alive..





Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: Nude on March 18, 2015, 11:52:23 PM
This scammer (bitcoinpuddle) promised payment and reduce threshold to 20k satoshis by monday, still the same, he raised referral commission to 50% though...


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: ciocgun on March 20, 2015, 11:03:49 AM
The solution is simply..

the faucet gift you some coin...

if you click ads they earn money and can give you a lot..
if the faucet owner is a trusted person.

i own http://www.chesimangia.it and spread all the coin received by ads (-taxes - domain costs) and increase the faucet payout...

it is opened from january 2014...
but if people doesn't not click ads..i've to close it..

but i never forced people to click..it's illegal..it's just a suggestion


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: keithjenkins on March 20, 2015, 11:18:00 AM
I agree with the OP. BitcoinPuddle does asks users to click on ads so that they can increase the faucet payout. lol

And as far as promoting scam sites is concerned. They put the ads on site and who cares when you are getting money for those ads? Why would he waste time analyzing and filtering the ads shown on his site? Its the money which matters. As a faucet user we should be aware of not to get lured by such ads.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: BillyBobZorton on March 20, 2015, 02:54:55 PM
google adsense kicked those publishers who ask for clicks in any way some other ads networks are not smart enought to detact all keywords around the ads
Google are masters at recognizing scammers within their adsense program, it's impossible to get away with extra clicking.


Title: Re: IS NOT A FAUCET OWNER ALSO RESPONSIBLE TO PROMOTE A SCAM?
Post by: ciocgun on March 20, 2015, 03:26:49 PM
google adsense kicked those publishers who ask for clicks in any way some other ads networks are not smart enought to detact all keywords around the ads
Google are masters at recognizing scammers within their adsense program, it's impossible to get away with extra clicking.

yes sure...

and in 15 months i don't get banned