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Dear all,

Do you happen to know any provably fair games online, where you can wager bitcoins - vs other players.

thanks.

I know couple of places when you can play agains some pleyers with bitcoin:

1.BitcoinPenguin - casino where you can play multiplayer bitcoin games like poker, blackjack, roulette etc.
2.CakeBet - is a bitcoin casino offering provably fair roulette and chance to play multiplayer blackjack with other players.
3.Winvery - offers a diverse selection of flash casino games and player vs player poker.

Ive never heard of those before, is winvery safe and trusted? Have you deposited there?

I actually like all pvp games until and unless they are fair and mainly i would like to see games like chess, etc !

I think it was discussed before. Simple strategy games like chess would attract cheaters that would quickly find a way to make a software like chessmaster calculate moves for them.
You'd need to have some sort of anti cheat software and constantly update it so it doesn't get cracked. For example CSGO has active software but they still need people to watch the replays and ban people manually because the software just can't cut it by itself.

better than that will be , there will be time based chess, you think much in cheating, you loose !

The problem with player vs player betting is that two could just cheat for a huge profit. That is on reason to NOT allow the pot to be more then what both bet.

There's always PvP on PD, or bithorse.co

Yes there seems to be a few but what i have played revolve around [poker or horse racing, the one i have played is bit jockey. I have played it but it is stupidly hard lol whoever is playing these games are masters i got my ass whooped every time and now i retire :)

From what i have found there really is not enough p2p bicoin wager games, like the above has said there are a few but that really isn't good enough, the house actually does well on p2p as they tax each player regardless of the result so i really am not sure what is going on. I made a thread recently asking what gamblers wanted and that did come up a lot i am looking into it  8)

I could gamble 10mbtc that I'll beat anybody in a game of Pacman! :P

gambit.com is a little known site that lets players wager on a variety of board games. They have been up for over a year and right now there is a special of 0% rake.

There's also Sports betting PvP at www.betbtc.co and Poker games also fall under the same category, you can play at www.luckyflop.eu which is web based and can be downloaded as well.

SwCPoker.eu (http://SwCPoker.eu) has some no-rake tables.  So it is player vs player and the house takes no cut from those tables.

most pvp games involves as strategic game, few are here on this board
including girlbtc.com, cakebet and bethorse.co, House only takes cut from the fee of the game, and also few good hold'em poker is also here, including the famous SWC poker and few new poker sites that got freerolls to tryout including luckyflop and betvip poker

Thanks for the answers, I will look into your posts.

I am looking for something that is provably fair and requres solid skills. :)

I can't find what I'm looking for.

Maybe its just me... I actually think there's a good demand for a simple, quick PvP game, with sound logic.

I might actually make one.  ;D

You should because there is indeed a high demand for a PvP game. Im not sure why there are only a few, maybe because you can use bots for some of them to cheat but some games are pretty much not possible to cheat with bots.

Like a race cars game, there is no way to cheat that with a bot, only strategy games. So if you are going to make one make sure its not possible to cheat it.

I only know is poker and PD has a pvp feature, thats all what i can think about.

Online bingo at bitbingo.io is essentially a multiple players game. Don't know if this falls under your concept of pvp though :)

Gentlemen... I am now inspired. :)

I will create a 100% provably fair, skills based, PvP game with bitcoin wagers.

I already have some ideas and will start playing them out.

 ;D

Im already ahead of you my brother.

Hi Ducky,

What you got? :)

Leetcoin.com (http://Leetcoin.com) has just added 3 US CSGO servers and 2 european server.

You can't be that far ahead to be lurking this thread when you could be coding and getting it done, is that girlbtc provably fair i really don't know or really care if i am honest but that is pvp i am sure. I play poker and even though i can't really prove i am not playing one of their accounts i put my faith into them and have some fun. There are not enough pvps out imo.

girlbtc possible, there we play player vs player in invest game.. i want the game pvp fighting but no one has made such sites  ::)

Here you can vote for Battleship - Player vs Player option:  ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=987971.0

He wants to make a skill based game. Girlbtc.com has nothing to do with skill, you just bet against someone else and hope more people will bet just like you. It's like a betting tug of war :D

I'd love to see a real skill based game. The biggest problem is making it cheat proof ;)

I myself used https://www.gambit.com/ while ago and now i stopped due they're asking for too much info.
But yeah gambit was fun :P

Gentlemen,

I am slowly making progress on the game development.

I have went after a trivia type of game... with a little hook to it.
I think it will be taken well.

Would anyone here be interested in beta-testing, once a preliminary version is available?

Cheers

Sure, I am interested, let me know when it's ready for testing and I'll give it a shot.

Im interested in testing it. Dont forget to send me an invite once it is available. Cheers!

The only one I can think of that is reliable is basically that PvP from PrimeDice.

There were a few others but they shut down because you could very easily cheat.

in order for it to be cheat proof it will need to run server side

Many action games are as easy to cheat with a bot as strategy games. And not all strategy games are easy for bots to win. If the game has too many options available, players still do better than computers.

Im not sure gambit actually allows bitcoin gambling does it? seems to just allow you to build chips and then give out prizes?

Anyway OP yes we need a p2p game system for many online skill based games i've been trying to suggest such a system here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1016604.msg11014085#msg11014085   < please make suggestions in this thread

I think we should make a system where any players can gamble for any game vs hosting the games ourselves.

Also this dev here has built bomberman p2p for gambling, its just a test now, not fully functional:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1010288.0

not a game but there is vs option at primedice and its fair,secure

I know some:

Primedice.com
Girlbtc.com (be careful) (one vs one game)
gambit.com
bitbingo.io

primedice is good to offer a zero edge option but i'd still like to see more skills games, even with a house rake.

Can anyone confirm you can actually wager and withdraw bitcoin @ gambit? i dont think u can?

I liked the "Battleship" type game that went "poof" a while ago... It had so much potential.. now it seemed as though it was just a scam site.  >:(

There is also a horse racing game, where you compete against each other, just cannot find the link now. { I kind of sucked at it }

The day, when Blizzard announce that they implementing Bitcoin in Starcraft 1vs1 ... I will start playing it again. {They can even have people paying entrance fee's to watch Pro play 1 vs 1}  ;D  

You are talking about Bithorse (thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950714.0), right? :)

There should be a 8ball multiplayer pool game where we can use BTC , Miniclip 8ball pool is famous these days.

Its decent for sure, plays very realistically.  I still like my idea of having a system where people can play any game they choose online vs any other person who wants to play that game for a bitcoin wager.  Making and running games is costly and impossible to please everyone, why not use the current games online which people play and love already, like miniclip 8 ball.

Maybe i should crowd fund this idea ?? ^ 

Yea that would be sweet, or even 9-ball or snooker for Bitcoin!!

9 ball would be awesome, problem is if you are hosting the game yourself how do you make it a good version?

This is a really good news...i was already tired of farming chicken's games (https://chickencoins.biz/) for BTC. Better farming real guys in CS:GO's PvP battles!  8)

Lol. Is that a chicken faucet or a chicken ponzi? But at least the theme is original. :)

player vs player there is betvip fo poker games

how to play pvp in PD , (PD is mean primedice ?) ? we guess the number or?

you roll against eachother and the highest roll wins the bet, the rolls are completely random and the house takes no edge.  you also can choose the bet size vs opponent.

People say it's a ponzi, so as precaution i never put in my BTC; however, I never arrived near withdrawal phase since I usually end neglecting my own chickens!  ;D

That's not the only problem. The problem with skilled based video games is that people who are brilliant programmers will use their skills to design bots which can beat any human being. And when it comes to winning Bitcoins it will be severely abused.

This is why you will probably never see Bitcoin Chess also, which is the best PvP game there is.

+1. Abuse with cheats & bots is already widespread even now, without actual money gains; so, adding BTC to the equation would only make things worse.
Just my 2 satoshis, however!

Anyone knows Player vs Player game with affiliate program?

( I am looking for btc games to post them on my website. It is always good when you can earn something from this ;) )

Edit: But that can not be casino games.. I cant advertise gambling on my website :(

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for player vs player bitcoin games, you can check my signature :)
There are some interesting pvp games there, which offer you nice amount of jackpot.
For example Gold Rush 90 Ball 0.5 games, currently have 25 players online :D
Just look it out and find which game that you like.

I am looking for this one also.

Maybe you should take a look at bitbingo.io
Its a multiplayer game, and offers nice affiliate commission up to 50%.of the site profit from your referrals.

there was just an update on site cashclamber.com you should try it

interested... that sounds really nice, i just know pd had pvp game, ehh kk  i'll try soon , ty for info

They did like month ago but they removed it and added some stupid prize thingy.
I don't like this website anymore thus i left this (well due they asked for personal info to get verified and also due we can't play with real bitcoins anymore)
So i have to find new website .-. But i don't think there is other websites with yatzy and so :c

For the place i don't know, maybe u can check on the gambling section. But for the games you can play casino or live casino like blackjack and poker. You need to find that it's real people not bot because so many casino site that using bot.

Bot is not always a problem in some games if you can actually make +ev betting decisions.  With poker and NLHE bots aren't yet good enough to beat good players in general.

You're right, it's easier to beat a bot and they aren't a real problem, the problem with BTC Poker in my view is there aren't many players who are interested in game really but are more interested in free-rolls.

Yes it's true. It seems to me that, because there is not yet poker website with enough trust. People are afraid of bots. They are testing websites on freerolls

For me first PVP game is http://fishbitfish.com/ it's 1 year ago I really like to play it.
But now site owner taking really high fees not many people playing it but it's provably fair depends on players.

Primedice has a PVP feature.

You maybe right but there are some trusted ones too and there also I only see very few people (1-2) on ring games and after a while when you're playing Heads-UP Poker, it gets intense. I don't know about swcpoker because I haven't played there because they don't have a browser based version yet but other places, it's all the same.

he was just as girlbtc?
playing with the investment system where fish are much larger or grow it will be a winner
I've absolutely no interest  :-\

you should try BitHorse. its a Virtual Horse race. you bet on the horse (or horses) you think will win, Winners will split all the wagers made Equal to their bet in % :)

here's our thread; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=950714.0

here's our website; www.Bithorse.co

I can't open this page (www.bithorse.co)..

Do you have an affiliate program?

Hey its under Maintenance (for 1-2 hours)

we don't have a Affiliate program yet, but we're working on it :)

Ok. Later i will check it out ;)

Do you have banner?

we're now live again :)

There is http://battlecoin.org, it's in beta, it's a multiplayer bomberman game for BTC.

I was going to mention battlecoin.

There's also bustabit , this is a gambling site with up to 1% house edge and there's also a player vs player.  You're competing for bonuses.  It's possible for this game to be +EV.

That site is well-made and I am interested in playing a game for bitcoin, but unfortunately there is no player there now. :(

Yap you're right that this bomberman clone is well-made, but unfortunately they dont have enough promotions. 
And I think that's why its hard to find other players to play against you.

But thats because the game is in beta mode, there was free to play not long ago but now you can deposit and play with real money (bitcoins) If you read his thread he said he is working on the game still and making new changes after that he will probably make some promotions.

Thats so lame the site actually plays pretty good but with out the ability to gamble bitcoin you might as well play on facebook.   The door is wide open for p2p skill games right now.

Yup gambit was exactly what this person is looking for.  They could've been a leading site in a niche community that has a lot of potential to grow.  Instead they wanted to try to expand to the mainstream when that space is quite crowded already.

They will die without offering something different, their games are ok but there is far better out there already.  Someone will step up lets wait and see.

Yeah there games were nothing amazing.  There site is reminiscent of something old.  It would've possibly been a great site 5-10 years ago.

But those ok games were amazing in the bitcoin world because no one else was offering this service.

You can play here manually 8 ball pool. There are member who will play with you . search here 8 ball pool you will see my thread about 8 ball pool.

I wish there was a chess pvp with bitcoins, i know the problem is that you can use bots but isnt there any solution to that? To block any possible bot usage like videogames have anticheating systems, this could use the same idea

you could use a Third part Bot or help system :/ its impossible to block a good chess bot unfortunately :(

The biggest chess site chess.com I think has some features/bots which watches over players moves and if it detects that they're using some kind of software it reports it to the mods but it's not perfect and even chess.com isn't able to stop people from cheating on online chess.

When you run affiliate program? ;) i keep place for your advert (because i like idea)?

What do you think about this game but where every little bubble is a satoshi? :)
http://agar.io/

https://github.com/DnAp/Agar.io-Reverse-Engineering

i had trouble cause slow Internet connection, over all was fun but im a little confused
did these game earning bitcoin ?

It is intresting, but imo at the beginnig should be nice explanation of rules. and with languages it is not well .. it seems to me that a lot of names is (I think) in Turkish. This should be corrected.

Why it should be corrected? :|
Everyone shoud be free to enter the name that he prefer, or even nothing.

As I said, the idea is very cool. It was just my opinion. Now I can't open your site in order to use examples. I'll try later describe more precisely my suggestions.

Peace :)

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Personally I prefer my pvp games to be skill based and not so much luck. But I could still give it a try. :)

If there is some level of skill thats a bonus, if you can make agar.io for bitcoin gambling.  There is an open source version available so i hear so it would just be a case of making a log in and gambling system around it.

is there a games for PvP that truly fair?

i mean like tail and head,,that must be cool also the player only need to pay the withdrawal fee...so like 1% from profit and etc

Never heard tail and head game in pvp mode, most tail and head is player vs house. I think flappy bird (challenge mode) is the most fair pvp games because it depens on your skill, but you need to play it in android device.
Another game is cgbets.com, you can test your skill on playing basketball but unfortunately the site has so low traffic.

But aren't skill games easy to exploit with bots? Flappy birds at least is a simple game so it should be easy to create a bot to play it.

i would recommend you to try cash clamber out even though it usually does not have too much players it has a lot of cool pvp games

I think not, i ever play coinflapper, they have nice app, you will not find a bug like flappy birds original game.

As far as i know there are some site which have game play pvp, but the game is like rock, paper, and scissors: https://www.gambit.com/

Only PvP games that almost provably fair..

if only the house not cheat by becoming player, so it will be house v player..what about playing poker with multi player? or gambling that has multiplayer..

Gambling that has Multiplayer?

There used be 1vs1 on primedice.. but no more.

An agar.io for bitcoins does exist; check out coinchop.io

Why they removed that option? |There was something wrong with it (possible exploits) or it was simply unpopular?

AFAIK they removed the pvp game because there were some players exploit it whenever there was happy hours. Something like playing pvp with their own alts to collect as many as btc.
But I could be wrong on this.

Yes, you are right. That is exactly the reason why they removed the pvp from dice gambling sites. The minimum tip is 50k sats, so thats not easy to make the 50k from faucet and then tip your alt with it, but with pvp you could transfer any amount to your alt immediately and then claim from the faucet again.