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Title: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: atomicswan27 on August 08, 2012, 04:47:41 PM
LETS TALK ABOUT IF BITCOIN MINING IS REALLY WORTH THE COST OF ALL THE COMPONENTS AND HARDWARE


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: imsaguy on August 08, 2012, 04:49:41 PM
LETS TALK ABOUT IF BITCOIN MINING IS REALLY WORTH THE COST OF ALL THE COMPONENTS AND HARDWARE

No.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: ChanceCoats123 on August 08, 2012, 07:17:26 PM
Rofl.

But to seriously answer the OP's question: Would there be entire forums dedicated to people who mine bitcoins if it wasn't profitable? >___>


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: sadpandatech on August 08, 2012, 07:38:25 PM
@OP l2Math and you tell us.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: conspirosphere.tk on August 08, 2012, 07:44:27 PM
LETS TALK ABOUT IF BITCOIN MINING IS REALLY WORTH THE COST OF ALL THE COMPONENTS AND HARDWARE

No.

It depends. In phiat phunny monies it can be prophitable:

http://bitcoinx.com/charts/chart_large_lin_30d.png



Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: RodeoX on August 08, 2012, 07:49:54 PM
No... wait, I mean NO!
Unless you are going to go big, you should go home.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: Transisto on August 09, 2012, 06:57:16 AM
LETS TALK ABOUT IF BITCOIN MINING IS REALLY WORTH THE COST OF ALL THE COMPONENTS AND HARDWARE
Tip me for my hard work
Facepalm

PS : Being told on the Internet "Your CAPS are LOCKED" is the same as being told in public "You forgot to wear pants"


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: norulezapply on August 09, 2012, 11:35:29 AM
LETS TALK ABOUT IF BITCOIN MINING IS REALLY WORTH THE COST OF ALL THE COMPONENTS AND HARDWARE
Tip me for my hard work

Oh man that's funny.

No, it's not worth it.

Please go home.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: ssateneth on August 10, 2012, 11:42:40 AM
2.6 million dollars per bitcoin? I'll sell all my bitcoins for that! I got 13!


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: aq on August 10, 2012, 11:51:49 AM
LETS TALK ABOUT IF BITCOIN MINING IS REALLY WORTH THE COST OF ALL THE COMPONENTS AND HARDWARE
Once you switch off CAPS LOCK, using the first row of your keyboard results in digits instead of some weird symbols, and voila, you can now calculate this on your own! ;D


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on August 10, 2012, 11:55:03 AM
Yes you should leave your pc on all the time and writing in all caps increases your hash rate.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: kibblesnbits on August 10, 2012, 01:11:25 PM
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Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: atomicswan27 on August 10, 2012, 02:51:45 PM
I haven't updated that post. Its when bitcoins used to be worth $2.50-$5.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: AmDD on August 10, 2012, 03:29:31 PM
 :D this guy is too much...


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: Shadow383 on August 10, 2012, 03:33:37 PM
No, mining isn't worth it at all.
Stop now and maybe the difficulty will go back below 2 million at some point  :D


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: kentrolla on August 11, 2012, 04:51:28 AM
LETS TALK ABOUT IF BITCOIN MINING IS REALLY WORTH THE COST OF ALL THE COMPONENTS AND HARDWARE
Once you switch off CAPS LOCK, using the first row of your keyboard results in digits instead of some weird symbols, and voila, you can now calculate this on your own! ;D
no need to switch off caps lock. Also, i bet he was holding the shift key down. That's the only true way to yell while typing.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: atomicswan27 on August 11, 2012, 11:01:44 PM
Guys I had caps lock on lol


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: Francesco on August 11, 2012, 11:09:19 PM
Well, you can make money out of mining just... if you are careful enough to buy shares low and sell high; actual dividends from actual mining are a nice premium  ::)

AM I RIGHT? (sorry, trying to conform to the spirit of the topic  :D )


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: goxed on August 12, 2012, 08:48:21 PM
GPU mining Profitability decreasing with such high difficulty rise.  It is 2,190,866 now!!


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: Jutarul on August 12, 2012, 09:10:31 PM
The correct answer is you have to account for opportunity cost.
Mining is "one" way to receive bitcoins. The other way is to buy it from others.

Thus as the market value of bitcoin rises it creates an incentive to invest in mining hardware and generate your "own" bitcoins.
If you compare the market value of bitcoin and the mining difficulty you see strong correlations.

However, the whole thing is a chicken and egg problem. You don't know whether mining difficulty causes an increase in market value (because miners won't sell lower than their costs) or whether the increased market value actually causes an increase in mining difficulty. Haven't done a lagtime analysis between both - but would be interesting.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: fcmatt on August 13, 2012, 02:17:09 AM
GPU mining Profitability decreasing with such high difficulty rise.  It is 2,190,866 now!!

Not sure if i agree. A few months ago i was making 2 btc per day but price was 4-5. Now making about 1 btc per day yet price is almost 12. Things improved actually.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: goxed on August 13, 2012, 02:38:27 AM
GPU mining Profitability decreasing with such high difficulty rise.  It is 2,190,866 now!!

Not sure if i agree. A few months ago i was making 2 btc per day but price was 4-5. Now making about 1 btc per day yet price is almost 12. Things improved actually.
I see what you mean. I was counting BTC/day with the same equipment. 


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: Francesco on August 13, 2012, 11:22:13 AM
GPU mining Profitability decreasing with such high difficulty rise.  It is 2,190,866 now!!

Not sure if i agree. A few months ago i was making 2 btc per day but price was 4-5. Now making about 1 btc per day yet price is almost 12. Things improved actually.
I see what you mean. I was counting BTC/day with the same equipment. 

The problem is if you have made more money than simply hoarding the money you spent to buy the hardware.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: bonker on August 13, 2012, 12:43:13 PM
Guys I had caps lock on lol

Caps just blow my mind! Some people hate them, some love them, some just go nuts with them. Caps lock freak me out man! ha ha!


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: meebs on September 06, 2012, 03:20:14 AM
It is kind of like asking.. "will I make money buying X stock??"

The answer: Maybe, depends on a LOT of factors.

1. the price of BTC over the next few months
2. how long until ASICs and the stupid rise in difficulty.
3. how much BTC you earn from your hardware until such time
4. how much you can resell the hardware for once it is obsolete


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: GernMiester on October 01, 2012, 03:31:41 AM
depends


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: conspirosphere.tk on October 01, 2012, 10:00:18 AM
This winter i am going to keep hashing with my 5 VGAs just for the subsidized heating (speaking 'bout poor-man mining), like last winter. Then we'll see


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: Korbman on October 01, 2012, 01:41:57 PM
No, mining isn't worth it at all.
Stop now and maybe the difficulty will go back below 2 million at some point  :D

Ha!

I agree...not worth it in the least. Spread the word that mining is a pain to set up and far from profitable. I'd love to see a decrease in difficulty before ASICs hit  ;D


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: YokoToriyama on October 01, 2012, 10:28:48 PM
some people on here have 6 mini rigs and more... do the math


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: Korbman on October 01, 2012, 11:48:24 PM
some people on here have 6 mini rigs and more... do the math

We're all being sarcastic, we know it's very profitable :D


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: VeeMiner on October 03, 2012, 08:24:20 PM
LETS TALK ABOUT IF BITCOIN MINING IS REALLY WORTH THE COST OF ALL THE COMPONENTS AND HARDWARE

if you buy ASIC, then yes


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: SysRun on October 03, 2012, 08:35:29 PM
GPUs are still profitable, but not for long.


Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: cdb000 on October 03, 2012, 10:08:03 PM
Maybe.

At this time I would not invest in GPUs for mining, but am quite happy to keep my existing GPUs running.

It seems likely that, in a small number of months, lots of ASICs will come online and the difficulty will go up.

It is autumn, winter before very long so... if electricity costs x per kWh, and the Bitcoins are worth y per kWh spent, and the heat generated by the GPUs reduces the cost of gas for heat by z per kWh, is the sum of y and z greater than x?

Or maybe the correct plan is to offload GPUs on eBay _before_ the point in time when GPU mining becomes obviously unprofitable and the value of a used HD5870 drops to almost 0.

Interesting times.



Title: Re: IS MINING REALLY WORTH IT
Post by: P_Shep on October 03, 2012, 10:48:38 PM
My 6 BFLs have now paid themselves off, including electricity usage, PSU, and all other components to get it working :)