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Title: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: kinglong on April 07, 2015, 08:12:55 AM
Hello everyone, We'll see what he's doing here, I guess not mistaken he was trying to defend himself

People see the message he sent me: https://i.imgur.com/jTDrnMf.png

Important Messages: https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

First is him message here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10986221#msg10986221
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987699#msg10987699
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987962#msg10987962
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10990204#msg10990204
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991113#msg10991113
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991220#msg10991220
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991683#msg10991683

What is happening when you avoid him questions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991993#msg10991993

Quote
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=320943

Name: Muhammed Zakir
Posts: 4598
Activity: 336
Position: Sr. Member
Date Registered:   April 25, 2014, 04:24:38 PM

I will find here: Skype: tanya.kuthiala.3 and E-Mail: tanya.kuthiala.3@gmail.com and I'll figure out something like this

https://www.facebook.com/tanya.kuthiala.3 or https://www.facebook.com/tanya.kuthiala (This is Indians, in the state of Kerala)

PS: Here's a bitch in Indians...That is why Muhammad Zakir trying to justify the actions of this scam

Muhammad Zakir - https://i.imgur.com/Rmv7Hju.png (This is Indians, in the state of Kerala)


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: chmod755 on April 07, 2015, 08:37:37 AM
This forum is called "Scam Accusations". If you do not have evidence of fraud and you're only posting a complaint here you should move your post to Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0)


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on April 07, 2015, 09:05:12 AM
Hello everyone, We'll see what he's doing here, I guess not mistaken he was trying to defend himself

People see the message he sent me: https://i.imgur.com/jTDrnMf.png

Important Messages: https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

First is him message here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10986221#msg10986221
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987699#msg10987699
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987962#msg10987962
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10990204#msg10990204
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991113#msg10991113
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991220#msg10991220
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991683#msg10991683

What is happening when you avoid him questions: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991993#msg10991993

Quote
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=320943

Name: Muhammed Zakir
Posts: 4598
Activity: 336
Position: Sr. Member
Date Registered:   April 25, 2014, 04:24:38 PM

I will find here: Skype: tanya.kuthiala.3 and E-Mail: tanya.kuthiala.3@gmail.com and I'll figure out something like this

https://www.facebook.com/tanya.kuthiala.3 or https://www.facebook.com/tanya.kuthiala (This is Indians, in the state of Kerala)

PS: Here's a bitch in Indians...That is why Muhammad Zakir trying to justify the actions of this scam

Muhammad Zakir - https://i.imgur.com/Rmv7Hju.png (This is Indians, in the state of Kerala)


Symantec (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=382389) you have made another alt account!!!!  ;D


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: kinglong on April 07, 2015, 09:10:55 AM
Symantec (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=382389) you have made another alt account!!!!  ;D

Yes! Friend....I do not deny it. My purpose is warning everyone when trade with this Indian dog


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: alani123 on April 07, 2015, 09:12:31 AM
This forum is called "Scam Accusations". If you do not have evidence of fraud and you're only posting a complaint here you should move your post to Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0)

There is no such board...

I've suggested that one should be created, but if it doesn't I think that such posts as the OP also fit on the scam accusation board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=998128.0


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: redsn0w on April 07, 2015, 09:16:31 AM
This forum is called "Scam Accusations". If you do not have evidence of fraud and you're only posting a complaint here you should move your post to Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0)

There is no such board...

I've suggested that one should be created, but if it doesn't I think that such posts as the OP also fit on the scam accusation board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=998128.0

I think the scam accusation is the correct section, also for the complaint about users or company. We don't need another section to create more "fight", this is just my personal opinion.


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: chmod755 on April 07, 2015, 09:26:06 AM
I think the scam accusation is the correct section, also for the complaint about users or company.

It should be renamed to "Complaints" if it's for all types of complaints. There's a difference between a scam (fraud) and just a complaint. I suggested Meta, because a few other people used it for complaints:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011858.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999252.0


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: kinglong on April 07, 2015, 09:32:48 AM
I think the scam accusation is the correct section, also for the complaint about users or company. We don't need another section to create more "fight", this is just my personal opinion.

I accused him based on two reasons:

1. https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

- Why did he have access to the account of FuckIdolPlus
- Why FuckIdolPlus send his account for Muhammed Zakir
- Why did he tell me False accusation + Blackmailing the seller

2. https://i.imgur.com/jTDrnMf.png

- When everything has passed, why did he send me message to protect FuckIdolPlus

PS: Based on the above reasons, My purpose is warning everyone when trade with this Indian dog


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: redsn0w on April 07, 2015, 09:34:37 AM
I think the scam accusation is the correct section, also for the complaint about users or company. We don't need another section to create more "fight", this is just my personal opinion.

I accused him based on two reasons:

1. https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

- Why did he have access to the account of FuckIdolPlus
- Why FuckIdolPlus send his account for Muhammed Zakir
- Why did he tell me False accusation + Blackmailing the seller

2. https://i.imgur.com/jTDrnMf.png

- When everything has passed, why did he send me message to protect FuckIdolPlus

PS: Based on the above reasons, My purpose is warning everyone when trade with this Indian dog


Then move this thread in the scam accusation board, the meta section is used only for "things" related to the forum (in general).

This is the section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on April 07, 2015, 09:37:50 AM
This forum is called "Scam Accusations". If you do not have evidence of fraud and you're only posting a complaint here you should move your post to Meta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0)

There is no such board...

I've suggested that one should be created, but if it doesn't I think that such posts as the OP also fit on the scam accusation board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=998128.0

I think the scam accusation is the correct section, also for the complaint about users or company. We don't need another section to create more "fight", this is just my personal opinion.

I don't think a new thread was need since OP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=490032) main account symantec (uid: 382389) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=382389) already was posting the same accousation againts MZ in this other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.0;all). Since OP self-admitted owing the symantec account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=382389) I see no need to have duplicate threads in multiple boards over the same topic (Symantec/kinglong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=490032) accusing MZ to be FuckIdolPlus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=409225) or a FuckIdolPlus associate).

Symantec (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=382389) you have made another alt account!!!!  ;D

Yes! Friend....I do not deny it. My purpose is warning everyone when trade with this Indian dog


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: kinglong on April 07, 2015, 09:40:21 AM
It should be renamed to "Complaints" if it's for all types of complaints. There's a difference between a scam (fraud) and just a complaint. I suggested Meta, because a few other people used it for complaints:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=905210.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1011858.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999252.0

Now you will see, there are many indian dog is here and fight with me, with the aim of ensuring the mutual.

Image: https://i.imgur.com/1iSrpAL.png



Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: umairsaleem on April 07, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
Read all links in the OP, can you just make the pics and quoted posts displayed in the post instead of annoying links?
But I can't still figure out what happened, you mean FuckIdolPlus is one of alt of Muhammed Zakir?


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on April 07, 2015, 09:53:42 AM
Read all links in the OP, can you just make the pics and quoted posts displayed in the post instead of annoying links?
But I can't still figure out what happened, you mean FuckIdolPlus is one of alt of Muhammed Zakir?

OP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=490032) accuse MZ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=320943) of being FuckIdolPlus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=409225) or one of her associates because since OP main account Symantec was scammed by FuckIdolPlus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.0;all) and after MZ tried to help sending a PM to wich her replied, Symantec became fixated about also MZ being a scammer. Symantec however locked the accusation thread likely after he was given -ve trust feedback due to him spamming fake feedback to people who disagreed with him (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1000239.msg10992652#msg10992652).


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: kinglong on April 07, 2015, 09:54:03 AM
Read all links in the OP, can you just make the pics and quoted posts displayed in the post instead of annoying links?
But I can't still figure out what happened, you mean FuckIdolPlus is one of alt of Muhammed Zakir?

FuckIdolPlus is Mohammed Zakir or a friend of him.

I accused him based on two reasons:

1. https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

- Why did he have access to the account of FuckIdolPlus
- Why FuckIdolPlus send his account for Muhammed Zakir
- Why did he tell me False accusation + Blackmailing the seller

2. https://i.imgur.com/jTDrnMf.png

- When everything has passed, why did he send me message to protect FuckIdolPlus

PS: Based on the above reasons, My purpose is warning everyone when trade with this Indian dog


I don't think a new thread was need since OP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=490032) main account symantec (uid: 382389) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=382389) already was posting the same accousation againts MZ in this other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.0;all). Since OP self-admitted owing the symantec account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=382389) I see no need to have duplicate threads in multiple boards over the same topic (Symantec/kinglong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=490032) accusing MZ to be FuckIdolPlus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=409225) or a FuckIdolPlus associate).

I was banned for 14 days by trust spam ;D and now me have to use a new nickname ;D. Did you understand? ;D


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: BitcoinIsAlgebraic on April 07, 2015, 09:59:55 AM
post it in the scam accusations board and you will probably have a few people look into it and either back you up or call you out on your FUD


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on April 07, 2015, 10:06:39 AM
Read all links in the OP, can you just make the pics and quoted posts displayed in the post instead of annoying links?
But I can't still figure out what happened, you mean FuckIdolPlus is one of alt of Muhammed Zakir?

FuckIdolPlus is Mohammed Zakir or a friend of him.

I accused him based on two reasons:

1. https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

- Why did he have access to the account of FuckIdolPlus
- Why FuckIdolPlus send his account for Muhammed Zakir
- Why did he tell me False accusation + Blackmailing the seller

2. https://i.imgur.com/jTDrnMf.png

- When everything has passed, why did he send me message to protect FuckIdolPlus

PS: Based on the above reasons, My purpose is warning everyone when trade with this Indian dog



You seems to still avoid replying to EcuaMobi & MZ requests there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.0;all (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.0;all). Sadly, no things can be cleared up if you are not providing full verifiable evidence to peer review!

I don't think a new thread was need since OP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=490032) main account symantec (uid: 382389) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=382389) already was posting the same accousation againts MZ in this other thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.0;all). Since OP self-admitted owing the symantec account (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=382389) I see no need to have duplicate threads in multiple boards over the same topic (Symantec/kinglong (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=490032) accusing MZ to be FuckIdolPlus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=409225) or a FuckIdolPlus associate).

I was banned for 14 days by trust spam ;D and now me have to use a new nickname ;D. Did you understand? ;D

Very well. Be warned that in this case you posting outside Meta would be considered ban evasion!


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: erikalui on April 07, 2015, 10:08:46 AM
You can post in the Meta section while being banned but only to ask a query about your ban or to appeal. I don't think posting about a Scam Accusation is allowed while being banned.



Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on April 07, 2015, 10:23:04 AM
You can post in the Meta section while being banned but only to ask a query about your ban or to appeal. I don't think posting about a Scam Accusation is allowed while being banned.



Here we are in Scam Accusation so he's actually ban evading!  ;)
By the while he is still spamming fake retaliation feedback to people disagreeing with him (me included) so, now I become an Indian bitch me too while being a Caucasian male from another continent!  ;D
OP and all his alt accounts is not interested to provide the required evidence for peer review as asked here and he is simply spamming fake trust to everyone who is not agreeing with him.


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on April 07, 2015, 10:53:56 AM
Thank you! I am removing your annoying font size and colors for easy reading. I kindly request you to not do copy-pastings.

FuckIdolPlus is Mohammed Zakir or a friend of him.

Both wrong. I only send a message after you made the scam accusation. I heard about him first when anti-vod threads popped out.

I accused him based on two reasons:

I understand why you are accusing but it is pure misunderstanding.

1. https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

- Why did he have access to the account of FuckIdolPlus
- Why FuckIdolPlus send his account for Muhammed Zakir
- Why did he tell me False accusation + Blackmailing the seller

-1: I didn't have access to FuckIdolPlus' account. I told him to give the account to me or a trusted person and he replied in publicly but in PM he told he can't give password but he can show the account via TeamViewer.
-2: The answer is given in above answer and also I never received a PM from FuckIdolPlus regarding password of his account or TeamViewer password.
-3: Oops. Sorry about that. I wrote "false accusation" when you lied but before writing I asked you whether this accusation was for "evasion" or for not receiving the keys. Thanks to Quickseller for answering doubt of mine which is why I am changing the feedback.

2. https://i.imgur.com/jTDrnMf.png

- When everything has passed, why did he send me message to protect FuckIdolPlus

I had no intention to protect her, never. As I have mentioned above, Quickseller showed me to the image which you said I can buy for $3 per key and she agreed to it. After that, you only received 4 keys for $56. You are owed 19 keys if the rate was $3 per key. When I asked FuckIdolPlus, he told the rate was $14 per key and as a result, he got 4 keys which he paid for. So I asked you what was the rate you both agreed to. If it was $3 per key, I will try to message FuckIdolPlus but if it was $14 per key, I probably will leave that matter.

PS: Based on the above reasons, My purpose is warning everyone when trade with this Indian dog
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It's good. I recommend you to delete the whole trust-spam and put a negative feedback with a detailed explanation and you can put link to this thread as reference.

I was banned for 14 days by trust spam ;D and now me have to use a new nickname ;D. Did you understand? ;D

That is ban evasion. You ought to be careful. This account may get banned and also the ban period of symantec may extend.


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: abyrnes81 on April 07, 2015, 10:57:09 AM
I was banned for 14 days by trust spam ;D and now me have to use a new nickname ;D. Did you understand? ;D

That is ban evasion. You ought to be careful. This account may get banned and also the ban period of symantec may extend.

Have you reported the OP? I'm going to report him for ban evasion and I hope the forum team will ban him (as soon as possible). He deserve the ban because he is a spammer.


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on April 07, 2015, 10:59:01 AM
Code:
[size=11pt][color=green]Hello everyone, We'll see what he's doing here, I guess not mistaken he was trying to defend himself[/color]

[u][b]People see the message he sent me:[/b][/u] https://i.imgur.com/jTDrnMf.png

[u][b]Important Messages:[/b][/u] https://i.imgur.com/OChMSjX.png and https://i.imgur.com/hLDpXFW.png

[b]First is him message here:[/b]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10986221#msg10986221
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987699#msg10987699
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10987962#msg10987962
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10990204#msg10990204
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991113#msg10991113
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991220#msg10991220
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991683#msg10991683

[b]What is happening when you avoid him questions:[/b] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991993#msg10991993

[quote][size=11pt]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=320943

Name: Muhammed Zakir
Posts: 4598
Activity: 336
Position: Sr. Member
Date Registered: April 25, 2014, 04:24:38 PM[/size][/quote]

[size=11pt]I will find here: Skype: tanya.kuthiala.3 and E-Mail: tanya.kuthiala.3@gmail.com and I'll figure out something like this

https://www.facebook.com/tanya.kuthiala.3 or https://www.facebook.com/tanya.kuthiala (This is Indians, in the state of Kerala)

[b]PS:[/b] Here's a bitch in Indians...[color=green]That is why Muhammad Zakir trying to justify the actions of this scam[/color]

Muhammad Zakir - https://i.imgur.com/Rmv7Hju.png (This is Indians, in the state of Kerala)[/size]

See how you do. I replied to all this earlier. You read it? Why copy-paste? Why not reply to my replies? Because of these type of action, I couldn't help you. Better reply this time forth than copy-pasting(aka bumping).


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Muhammed Zakir on April 07, 2015, 11:06:42 AM
I was banned for 14 days by trust spam ;D and now me have to use a new nickname ;D. Did you understand? ;D

That is ban evasion. You ought to be careful. This account may get banned and also the ban period of symantec may extend.

Have you reported the OP? I'm going to report him for ban evasion and I hope the forum team will ban him (as soon as possible). He deserve the ban because he is a spammer.

Grand_Voyageur made post in Meta to tell about the ban evasion.


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: abyrnes81 on April 07, 2015, 11:08:47 AM
I was banned for 14 days by trust spam ;D and now me have to use a new nickname ;D. Did you understand? ;D

That is ban evasion. You ought to be careful. This account may get banned and also the ban period of symantec may extend.

Have you reported the OP? I'm going to report him for ban evasion and I hope the forum team will ban him (as soon as possible). He deserve the ban because he is a spammer.

Grand_Voyageur made post in Meta to tell about the ban evasion.

Can you give me the link of thread? I can't find it, please.


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on April 07, 2015, 11:25:54 AM
kinglong maybe, if you stop spamming fake feedbacks to people who are trying to help clear things and start providing verifiable evidence, users here could stop thinking you're only spamming FUD.

EcuaMobi's questions here: 1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10990891#msg10990891), 2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10990939#msg10990939), 3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991064#msg10991064), 4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991144#msg10991144), 5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991337#msg10991337)

Muhammed Zakir's questions here: 1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10990994#msg10990994), 2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991113#msg10991113), 3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991181#msg10991181), 4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.msg10991220#msg10991220).


Title: Re: [Warning] Muhammed Zakir
Post by: Grand_Voyageur on April 07, 2015, 12:37:15 PM
I was banned for 14 days by trust spam ;D and now me have to use a new nickname ;D. Did you understand? ;D

That is ban evasion. You ought to be careful. This account may get banned and also the ban period of symantec may extend.

Have you reported the OP? I'm going to report him for ban evasion and I hope the forum team will ban him (as soon as possible). He deserve the ban because he is a spammer.

Grand_Voyageur made post in Meta to tell about the ban evasion.

@Muhammed Zakir: I was trying to help clarify things by pointing out points still needing to be answered by him (see my post above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1016057.msg11008160#msg11008160)), just as other forum users apparently tried to do, to help him clearing the issue he reported (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.0;all). So far, by judging with the available evidence here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1016057.0;all) & there (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1012548.0;all) combined with symantec deleting his own post, I am convinced that both FuckIdolPlus and Symantec (http://Symantec) were trying to scam each other so I gave both a -ve trust feedback. I also have a duty to let admins know about the ban evasion since any decision is up to them, thus my post in Trust spam happens thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1000239.msg11007855#msg11007855).

@abyrnes81: Is UP to you to decide If you want to report OP to mods and admins. If you want, you could use the Report to moderator link at the bottom of OP posts or you could send a PM to mods and admins (may BadBear (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=41911)) or something else. By the while, the link of Trust spam happens thread MZ was referring to is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1000239.0;all (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1000239.0;all).