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Title: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 11, 2015, 03:01:00 AM
I figure we are getting close to summer for most.  I know I am working on my summer mining area slowly.  Figured start a thread we can rate summer needs such as fan's or other equipment to keep your miners cool.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 11, 2015, 03:01:29 AM
Reserved Incase I can make a nice list


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 11, 2015, 03:10:33 AM
Lasko 2265QM 20-Inch Max Performance High Velocity Floor/Wall mount fan - http://www.amazon.com/Lasko-2265QM-20-Inch-Performance-Velocity/dp/B0073CQ9XA/


I have to rate this fan pretty I would say 4 out of 5.  I had a electric controlled fan I replaced, as if it lost power it did not turn on.  With this hardwired switch if there is a loss of power it starts back up when power is back.

It can be mounted on wall or use the stand it comes with.  Only reason I gave it a 4 was stand would be nice to have a little height adjustment.  I ended up sitting it on something to get proper height.  But very good fan was put in a good sized room and was able to push air from the 3 miners in there very nicely.  As I add miners to this summer area I should have a better test.   


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Amph on April 11, 2015, 07:27:30 AM
here the temp is still at 21° max, still good fresh air, nothing hot at the moment, i think it is still early to talking about the summer

miner can do fine for now, but i usually change their default fan since they are awful fan, and is so noisy


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 16, 2015, 06:31:57 PM
Within the next month I should have a lot more to add.  Over next few weeks I will be working on a new summer mining area. 

I will share results assuming it as goes as planned.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 19, 2015, 02:44:48 AM
Tried another fan today - http://www.lowes.com/pd_416730-11292-SFDC2-600T_0__?Ntt=416730&UserSearch=416730&productId=4755305&rpp=32
Utilitech Pro 24-in 2-Speed High Velocity Fan


It is a medium sized fan at 24 inches.  It is rated very high cfm for its size: 7860.

I put one of these in area I plan on putting miners in.   Tested one out it does put out a heck of a lot of air.  I could feel it move air a good amount farther then other fan above.  And it still has a non-electrical switch that if power is knocked out it will come back on same speed.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 19, 2015, 03:13:25 AM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 19, 2015, 03:38:11 AM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 19, 2015, 03:51:42 AM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 19, 2015, 04:01:09 AM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 19, 2015, 02:50:10 PM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 19, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.

I'm in Kansas.  It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm :) ).  But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main.

It's been a good thing for mining.  But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area.     And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime.   


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 19, 2015, 04:52:20 PM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.

I'm in Kansas.  It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm :) ).  But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main.

It's been a good thing for mining.  But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area.     And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime.   

 Do you have decent power prices?  8 or 9 cents?


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 19, 2015, 04:58:13 PM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.

I'm in Kansas.  It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm :) ).  But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main.

It's been a good thing for mining.  But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area.     And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime.   

 Do you have decent power prices?  8 or 9 cents?

I would consider them to be decent, not a super deal.  But it's in the 9 cents by time you tack on all the fees and taxes.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 19, 2015, 05:15:10 PM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.

I'm in Kansas.  It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm :) ).  But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main.

It's been a good thing for mining.  But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area.     And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime.   

 Do you have decent power prices?  8 or 9 cents?

I would consider them to be decent, not a super deal.  But it's in the 9 cents by time you tack on all the fees and taxes.

 under 10 cents lets you mine above power and other costs.  thread water is a big part of the game now.  then cash on the upswing.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 19, 2015, 06:50:59 PM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.

I'm in Kansas.  It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm :) ).  But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main.

It's been a good thing for mining.  But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area.     And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime.   

 Do you have decent power prices?  8 or 9 cents?

I would consider them to be decent, not a super deal.  But it's in the 9 cents by time you tack on all the fees and taxes.

 under 10 cents lets you mine above power and other costs.  thread water is a big part of the game now.  then cash on the upswing.

With longer ROI now I don't sell gear near as often as I once was.   This new area will allow me to keep my gear over summer (if all works out right) and hopefully have a little room for adding a machine or two as I would guess I will want more.

The longest part of this I think will be getting it's electricity wired. It already has networking going out to it.  It's going to start with 110's just as it's easy/cheap to do.  And hopefully get some 240 later on down the road.  It's a heck of a breaker box with 100 amp so lot's of options.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 20, 2015, 02:28:44 AM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.

I'm in Kansas.  It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm :) ).  But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main.

It's been a good thing for mining.  But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area.     And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime.   

 Do you have decent power prices?  8 or 9 cents?

I would consider them to be decent, not a super deal.  But it's in the 9 cents by time you tack on all the fees and taxes.

 under 10 cents lets you mine above power and other costs.  thread water is a big part of the game now.  then cash on the upswing.

With longer ROI now I don't sell gear near as often as I once was.   This new area will allow me to keep my gear over summer (if all works out right) and hopefully have a little room for adding a machine or two as I would guess I will want more.

The longest part of this I think will be getting it's electricity wired. It already has networking going out to it.  It's going to start with 110's just as it's easy/cheap to do.  And hopefully get some 240 later on down the road.  It's a heck of a breaker box with 100 amp so lot's of options.

Is the breaker  box in the new building?

I assume  it is  please post a photo of it.

  240 volt is really easy to do.

1  30 amp 2 pole breaker in the breaker box if the breaker box has a pair of 120 wires feed to it.
1   30 amp plug
a  10 gauge romex wire a used pdu on ebay

and you are done.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 20, 2015, 02:38:19 AM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.

I'm in Kansas.  It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm :) ).  But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main.

It's been a good thing for mining.  But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area.     And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime.   

 Do you have decent power prices?  8 or 9 cents?

I would consider them to be decent, not a super deal.  But it's in the 9 cents by time you tack on all the fees and taxes.

 under 10 cents lets you mine above power and other costs.  thread water is a big part of the game now.  then cash on the upswing.

With longer ROI now I don't sell gear near as often as I once was.   This new area will allow me to keep my gear over summer (if all works out right) and hopefully have a little room for adding a machine or two as I would guess I will want more.

The longest part of this I think will be getting it's electricity wired. It already has networking going out to it.  It's going to start with 110's just as it's easy/cheap to do.  And hopefully get some 240 later on down the road.  It's a heck of a breaker box with 100 amp so lot's of options.

Is the breaker  box in the new building?

I assume  it is  please post a photo of it.

  240 volt is really easy to do.

1  30 amp 2 pole breaker in the breaker box if the breaker box has a pair of 120 wires feed to it.
1   30 amp plug
a  10 gauge romex wire a used pdu on ebay

and you are done.

I will try tomorrow to get a picture.  It is a big box.  It's ready to have breakers put in it.   I still need to do some cleaning in second story.  Have 12 guage wire for the 110's and breakers.    It is a subpanal that goes to new building it has 100 amp going to it. 

I could use your advice on PDU I was looking at http://www.tripplite.com/metered-pdu-30a-208v-240v-0u-vertical-c19-c13-outlets-nema-l6-30p-single-phase~PDUMV30HV/ .   It appears it uses "NEMA L6-30P" plug.   What type of reciptical do I need for that?

I would truly appreciate your advice on what type of receptical you wired the 240 to that would work with most PDU's.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 20, 2015, 03:26:36 AM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.

I'm in Kansas.  It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm :) ).  But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main.

It's been a good thing for mining.  But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area.     And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime.   

 Do you have decent power prices?  8 or 9 cents?

I would consider them to be decent, not a super deal.  But it's in the 9 cents by time you tack on all the fees and taxes.

 under 10 cents lets you mine above power and other costs.  thread water is a big part of the game now.  then cash on the upswing.

With longer ROI now I don't sell gear near as often as I once was.   This new area will allow me to keep my gear over summer (if all works out right) and hopefully have a little room for adding a machine or two as I would guess I will want more.

The longest part of this I think will be getting it's electricity wired. It already has networking going out to it.  It's going to start with 110's just as it's easy/cheap to do.  And hopefully get some 240 later on down the road.  It's a heck of a breaker box with 100 amp so lot's of options.

Is the breaker  box in the new building?

I assume  it is  please post a photo of it.

  240 volt is really easy to do.

1  30 amp 2 pole breaker in the breaker box if the breaker box has a pair of 120 wires feed to it.
1   30 amp plug
a  10 gauge romex wire a used pdu on ebay

and you are done.

I will try tomorrow to get a picture.  It is a big box.  It's ready to have breakers put in it.   I still need to do some cleaning in second story.  Have 12 guage wire for the 110's and breakers.    It is a subpanal that goes to new building it has 100 amp going to it. 

I could use your advice on PDU I was looking at http://www.tripplite.com/metered-pdu-30a-208v-240v-0u-vertical-c19-c13-outlets-nema-l6-30p-single-phase~PDUMV30HV/ .   It appears it uses "NEMA L6-30P" plug.   What type of reciptical do I need for that?

I would truly appreciate your advice on what type of receptical you wired the 240 to that would work with most PDU's.


http://www.lowes.com/pd_13538-296-HOM230CP_4294722484__?productId=1014737&Ntt=2+pole+30+amp&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3D2%2Bpole%2B30%2Bamp&facetInfo=

http://www.lowes.com/pd_197494-334-L630R-L_0__?Ntt=l6-30r&UserSearch=l630r&productId=1056959&rpp=48


this ebay seller has  good pdu's

I have 2 of these.  they have an amp meter built in very good price

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121380956007?



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 20, 2015, 03:46:22 AM
that lowes fan has a good price  139.99

Two of them in the right spot can pull a lot of heat out of the room.

How many miners will you have ?

Yea It was a good price I got two and had 50 off 250, so was a very nice deal for the amount of CFM.

I currently have a little over 10k watts worth of gear.  I planned on going down from winter of 12k watts.  But I didn't go as far down as I thought.  

So now I'm working on getting a nice setup where I can put all in one room.  I have a 100 amp subpanal so have a decent amount of electricity just for miners. Winter was easy and had them separated but I will drain a lot of profit out of it if I used AC to cool them.

Ac is a no go.   what size room will these be in?   20 by 20 with a high ceiling?

I don't have exact dimensions.  It's above a good sized two car garage and work space.   It could park four cars if you wanted to pull them in that far.   Good height on ceiling, they made it very steep which added a lot of room in the second story.   I need to walk to get dimensions it off it's a pretty massive room.

Sounds bigger the 20 by 25 by 10  that is  5000 cubic feet so your two fans can pull  about 15000 cubic feet .  You should be okay as long as  you are 2x fan power over cubic feet.
  What state are you in?
    Ie Texas, Alabama, Arizona , New Mexico all very hot.
  New Jersey, New York not so bad.

I'm in Kansas.  It's the house on the family farm (real crops sadly not a mining farm :) ).  But it give me a ton of room and also 200 amps in main breaker, and 100 amps in separate subpanel not connected to main.

It's been a good thing for mining.  But I will be glad to get some rooms back once I get this done and finished on new mining area.     And it's a pretty massive area on it I really need to measure or step it off sometime.   

 Do you have decent power prices?  8 or 9 cents?

I would consider them to be decent, not a super deal.  But it's in the 9 cents by time you tack on all the fees and taxes.

 under 10 cents lets you mine above power and other costs.  thread water is a big part of the game now.  then cash on the upswing.

With longer ROI now I don't sell gear near as often as I once was.   This new area will allow me to keep my gear over summer (if all works out right) and hopefully have a little room for adding a machine or two as I would guess I will want more.

The longest part of this I think will be getting it's electricity wired. It already has networking going out to it.  It's going to start with 110's just as it's easy/cheap to do.  And hopefully get some 240 later on down the road.  It's a heck of a breaker box with 100 amp so lot's of options.

Is the breaker  box in the new building?

I assume  it is  please post a photo of it.

  240 volt is really easy to do.

1  30 amp 2 pole breaker in the breaker box if the breaker box has a pair of 120 wires feed to it.
1   30 amp plug
a  10 gauge romex wire a used pdu on ebay

and you are done.

I will try tomorrow to get a picture.  It is a big box.  It's ready to have breakers put in it.   I still need to do some cleaning in second story.  Have 12 guage wire for the 110's and breakers.    It is a subpanal that goes to new building it has 100 amp going to it. 

I could use your advice on PDU I was looking at http://www.tripplite.com/metered-pdu-30a-208v-240v-0u-vertical-c19-c13-outlets-nema-l6-30p-single-phase~PDUMV30HV/ .   It appears it uses "NEMA L6-30P" plug.   What type of reciptical do I need for that?

I would truly appreciate your advice on what type of receptical you wired the 240 to that would work with most PDU's.


http://www.lowes.com/pd_13538-296-HOM230CP_4294722484__?productId=1014737&Ntt=2+pole+30+amp&pl=1&currentURL=%3FNtt%3D2%2Bpole%2B30%2Bamp&facetInfo=

http://www.lowes.com/pd_197494-334-L630R-L_0__?Ntt=l6-30r&UserSearch=l630r&productId=1056959&rpp=48


this ebay seller has  good pdu's

I have 2 of these.  they have an amp meter built in very good price

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121380956007?



Thank you!  That reciprocal is great I was banging my head against the wall on what I needed.  And I love the price of that  PDU vs some of the others. 

I will get some pictures of box soon.   I will also see if i can find my measure to get dimensions.   Hopefully next weekend this project will be done if not mostly done.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 20, 2015, 07:37:01 PM
no worries it was nice to help.  I can not  believe that i waited this long to do some 240 outlets.

remember 12 gauge for  a 2 pole 20amp socket

10 gauge for a 30 amp 2 pole socket

I did one of each.

And my 12 gauge  is a 2 foot run from the main breaker box. so no worries.

I really like the pdu I linked you to price is good and it has an ethernet feature that allows any one plug to turn on or off.  (not going to use it but it is cool)


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: daddyfatsax on April 20, 2015, 07:51:21 PM
I mine in Alabama with no AC in my warehouse at work. I think my S3's got up into the mid 50's C last summer. That Lasko fan is what I use in front of my miners and then I have another big fan that is mounted on the wall to at least circulate air. Granted, that warehouse is at least 100F in the summer. Probably more.

smracer has a crazy setup to mine in Texas with no AC, but the dude has like $30k invested in intake and exhaust fans.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 20, 2015, 08:22:21 PM
I mine in Alabama with no AC in my warehouse at work. I think my S3's got up into the mid 50's C last summer. That Lasko fan is what I use in front of my miners and then I have another big fan that is mounted on the wall to at least circulate air. Granted, that warehouse is at least 100F in the summer. Probably more.

smracer has a crazy setup to mine in Texas with no AC, but the dude has like $30k invested in intake and exhaust fans.

There is nothing wrong with the lasko it is a very nice fan.  The Utilitech Pro's I got are just hard to beat as far as the amount of CFM's they do.  I won't be spending near 30k.   As far as costs I have 2 shelves, 8 110 circuit breakers, a bunch of 12 guage wire, reciprocals to hook the wire's to.  Thanks to philipma I will be adding 1 240 to start with. 

I still need to take some before pictures (and clean it a little).  Also I would like to measure dimensions if i can find my big tape in the garage.  Hopefully this weekend alot of it get's done.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 21, 2015, 03:40:57 PM
I guess it's time for a project update.  At this point it's getting lot's of parts I have.   
  • Got 2 shelves to hold miners
  • 8 - 20 amp breakers/a bunch of 12 guage wire/reciprocals/reciprocal boxes
  • Some non-conductive screwdrivers (and this subpanel can be turned off completely during wiring
  • 3 Fans, 2 big fans, 1 medium (In addition to vents already installed and one nice 15 inch duct using a fan to exhaust out)
  • 220 PDU - SERVER-TECHNOLOGY-SWITCHED-Cabinet-Distribution-Unit-CDU-PDU-CX-8H2C211

Parts I still have to get
  • 220 Reciprocal, and 10 gauge wire, and 30 amp breaker

So it's getting there hopefully this coming weekend some progress will be made.  And a special thanks to philipma1957 for his help on 220.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 21, 2015, 03:53:18 PM
I guess it's time for a project update.  At this point it's getting lot's of parts I have.   
  • Got 2 shelves to hold miners
  • 8 - 20 amp breakers/a bunch of 12 guage wire/reciprocals/reciprocal boxes
  • Some non-conductive screwdrivers (and this subpanel can be turned off completely during wiring
  • 3 Fans, 2 big fans, 1 medium (In addition to vents already installed and one nice 15 inch duct using a fan to exhaust out)
  • 220 PDU - SERVER-TECHNOLOGY-SWITCHED-Cabinet-Distribution-Unit-CDU-PDU-CX-8H2C211

Parts I still have to get
  • 220 Reciprocal, and 10 gauge wire, and 30 amp breaker

So it's getting there hopefully this coming weekend some progress will be made.  And a special thanks to philipma1957 for his help on 220.

Ahh your are lucky you have a nice place to set it up…
 Have you looked into solar down the road not now.
better yet a wind turbine?
also not now down the road.

Having a lot of land is cool. I had an uncle with 220 acres .


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 21, 2015, 04:10:11 PM
I guess it's time for a project update.  At this point it's getting lot's of parts I have.   
  • Got 2 shelves to hold miners
  • 8 - 20 amp breakers/a bunch of 12 guage wire/reciprocals/reciprocal boxes
  • Some non-conductive screwdrivers (and this subpanel can be turned off completely during wiring
  • 3 Fans, 2 big fans, 1 medium (In addition to vents already installed and one nice 15 inch duct using a fan to exhaust out)
  • 220 PDU - SERVER-TECHNOLOGY-SWITCHED-Cabinet-Distribution-Unit-CDU-PDU-CX-8H2C211

Parts I still have to get
  • 220 Reciprocal, and 10 gauge wire, and 30 amp breaker

So it's getting there hopefully this coming weekend some progress will be made.  And a special thanks to philipma1957 for his help on 220.

Ahh your are lucky you have a nice place to set it up…
 Have you looked into solar down the road not now.
better yet a wind turbine?
also not now down the road.

Having a lot of land is cool. I had an uncle with 220 acres .

I did kinda luck out into having lot's of electricity.  They wired it thinking it would be used farming. I have 2 power lines coming in the main house has 200 amps just to it, and the newer garage has a subpanal with 100 amps pretty much will be just for mining now.  And with it being family farm house, it has just gotten bigger and bigger over the years.  And ofcourse the garage/work area that I will be putting miners above.

I looked into solar, it was to much front end cost to justify with .095ish cents KWh.  I have not looked into wind turbines as of yet, all these old country family homes are kinda slow on newer technology so haven't seen much of them hit here yet.  I would love to have it, but upfront cost just makes it hard to justify.

I enjoy the land it is a lot of fun.  One thing I love doing is target practice so it allows me to do this safely outside.  Only bad thing is neighbors are a decent ways away.  So for security we have camera's streaming and and also a pretty good security alarm system.  So between those it will keep my miners safe.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 22, 2015, 05:06:32 AM
Kinda on hold for a day or two.  I'm getting a upgrade from regular dsl to a fiber line.  This is not for mining I was mining fine at 10 Mbps to hopefully 50 Mbps.   So far above what is needed for miners.

Hopefully if all goes well I get it installed tomorrow they have cable close so install should be in few hours if estimate is right.   If this goes through then I can focus on my new mining area again.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 22, 2015, 05:09:26 PM
Fiber install was successful.   A thank you to the goverment for somehow making it where the internet company made money laying fiber to farms.   It is amazing the amount of work they put into this project.  It was pretty much all last summer.  Now they are just starting to use it.

I now have a 50 Mbps internet connection.  It was not needed in anyway for mining, but I wanted the bump in speed.  So far very very good choice.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 23, 2015, 12:40:31 AM
Have been working on getting parts. philipma1957 has went above and beyond.  A special thanks for his knowledge of 240.

Now a few more parts to order.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 23, 2015, 03:12:59 AM
On 240 I was starting to get a little confused with what to run to the reciprocal.  Thanks to philipma1957 I know what will work.

I have 10-2 that will do 2 hots and a ground for the following reciprocal:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_197494-334-L630R-L_0__?Ntt=l6-30r&UserSearch=l630r&productId=1056959&rpp=48

I was a little confused between 10-2 and 10-3 was my problem.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 25, 2015, 03:29:10 AM
Tomorrow I will be working on it.  Don't know how far I will get.  I'm hoping to get done this weekend, but it might draw into next weekend.

I WILL be taking pictures though tomorrow to document it.   So pictures to come tomorrow night chances are by time I upload them.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 25, 2015, 04:15:54 AM
Tomorrow I will be working on it.  Don't know how far I will get.  I'm hoping to get done this weekend, but it might draw into next weekend.

I WILL be taking pictures though tomorrow to document it.   So pictures to come tomorrow night chances are by time I upload them.

don't rush it.. a 240 volt 30 amp line is  7200 watts   vs a 120 volt 15 amp line at 1800 watts.


once you think it is done use a meter on the


 l6 30r   

  the 2 hots should read 230-242 volts

  1 hot 1 ground should read 120 volts

 the other hot with the ground should read 120 volts.

once all 2 readings   check out  then plug in the pdu it should light up and read 0.0 for amps

If all that works check the sockets in the pdu 2 hots should give you about 230 -242 watts  1 hot to the ground around 120 volts

you can then plug in the psu test just the psu with   your trick switch  (paper clip whatever you use)

all that works power off the psu and hook 1 miner up just run 1 miner if you are using a avalon 4.1 at 900 gh or so  that is about 500 watts or 2 amps on the  pdu meter.

after that load the mofo up. and hash away.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 25, 2015, 04:26:57 AM
Tomorrow I will be working on it.  Don't know how far I will get.  I'm hoping to get done this weekend, but it might draw into next weekend.

I WILL be taking pictures though tomorrow to document it.   So pictures to come tomorrow night chances are by time I upload them.

don't rush it.. a 240 volt 30 amp line is  7200 watts   vs a 120 volt 15 amp line at 1800 watts.


once you think it is done use a meter on the


 l6 30r   

  the 2 hots should read 230-242 volts

  1 hot 1 ground should read 120 volts

 the other hot with the ground should read 120 volts.

once all 2 readings   check out  then plug in the pdu it should light up and read 0.0 for amps

If all that works check the sockets in the pdu 2 hots should give you about 230 -242 watts  1 hot to the ground around 120 volts

you can then plug in the psu test just the psu with   your trick switch  (paper clip whatever you use)

all that works power off the psu and hook 1 miner up just run 1 miner if you are using a avalon 4.1 at 900 gh or so  that is about 500 watts or 2 amps on the  pdu meter.

after that load the mofo up. and hash away.

Thanks for the advice.  The 240 did originally scare me, which is why at first I had a electrician drop a quote on it.

I got lucky that this is a subpanal, and has a switch by the meter the shuts down the entire thing.  So when it's being wired no electricity will be live.  And it will of course be double/triple checked and still treated with respect.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 25, 2015, 11:03:56 PM
Taking time to do it right.  Got 4 110's done today.   Set up and running good.

Pictures to come later today.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 26, 2015, 03:40:39 AM
Been one long day.  Being safe takes time to say the least.   I will post just a few pics tonight.  Eventually I plan on making a new thread and clean it up/make it more readable.

Front currently showing 1 1.5 T Dragon, 2 Antminer S4's, 2 SP20's, and 1 S5.


Back shows the 4 wires that are currently wired:


Network is messy it will be cleaned up and ziptied to look nice in the end.  To go is 4 110's and 1 240 on wiring.  And yes it could have been easier with all 240, but I just am use to using 110 and had the room so I did it.   

I am pretty tired after a day of this, if I wake up with a ton of energy I will do the rest tomorrow.  If not it might happen this week or next weekend.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 26, 2015, 01:53:49 PM
Thanks for photos.  I see one fan up high.

I see one near the 2 windows on the floor.  I know you have more.

 I like the plastic shelfs vs metal.  lowers short risk.


you have about 8th? at 5k watts?

1.5--------dragon
2.0--------s-4
2.0--------s-4
1.2--------sp20
1.2--------sp20
1.2--------s-5


I know you have 2.6 with 3 avalon's

that is over 10.6

You may need a second hole for another fan on the high fan side not the window fan side.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 26, 2015, 04:18:25 PM
Thanks for photos.  I see one fan up high.

I see one near the 2 windows on the floor.  I know you have more.

 I like the plastic shelfs vs metal.  lowers short risk.


you have about 8th? at 5k watts?

1.5--------dragon
2.0--------s-4
2.0--------s-4
1.2--------sp20
1.2--------sp20
1.2--------s-5


I know you have 2.6 with 3 avalon's

that is over 10.6

You may need a second hole for another fan on the high fan side not the window fan side.

Thanks for your advice it is always appreciated.  I need to take a few more pictures now two big fans are set up, and one smaller one by window to help cool air push in.  Once I move more miners in there I will have another fan to put by 2nd window to help push cool air in.

When It's all said and done I should have (some are underclocked):
Miner         watts        no   total watts
S5                 580      1         580
1.5 Dragon     1100    1       1100
S4                 1400    3       4200
SP 20             643     2        1286
c1                  800     2       1600
Avalon 4.1       549    3        1647

          total watts   10413   Speed is normally high 15T's.  


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 26, 2015, 05:40:17 PM
Thanks for photos.  I see one fan up high.

I see one near the 2 windows on the floor.  I know you have more.

 I like the plastic shelfs vs metal.  lowers short risk.


you have about 8th? at 5k watts?

1.5--------dragon
2.0--------s-4
2.0--------s-4
1.2--------sp20
1.2--------sp20
1.2--------s-5


I know you have 2.6 with 3 avalon's

that is over 10.6

You may need a second hole for another fan on the high fan side not the window fan side.

Thanks for your advice it is always appreciated.  I need to take a few more pictures now two big fans are set up, and one smaller one by window to help cool air push in.  Once I move more miners in there I will have another fan to put by 2nd window to help push cool air in.

When It's all said and done I should have (some are underclocked):
Miner         watts        no   total watts
S5                 580      1         580
1.5 Dragon     1100    1       1100
S4                 1400    3       4200
SP 20             643     2        1286
c1                  800     2       1600
Avalon 4.1       549    3        1647

          total watts   10413   Speed is normally high 15T's.  

  Nice last winter I had 12  sp20's 1 s-5 and 1 avalon 4.1

   14 pieces  had to underclock them as my power envelope maxes at  7k.

Now with the 2

 240 lines

 I can do 10k easy power wise this coming winter.  but that may never happen.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 26, 2015, 11:36:41 PM
Thanks for photos.  I see one fan up high.

I see one near the 2 windows on the floor.  I know you have more.

 I like the plastic shelfs vs metal.  lowers short risk.


you have about 8th? at 5k watts?

1.5--------dragon
2.0--------s-4
2.0--------s-4
1.2--------sp20
1.2--------sp20
1.2--------s-5


I know you have 2.6 with 3 avalon's

that is over 10.6

You may need a second hole for another fan on the high fan side not the window fan side.

Thanks for your advice it is always appreciated.  I need to take a few more pictures now two big fans are set up, and one smaller one by window to help cool air push in.  Once I move more miners in there I will have another fan to put by 2nd window to help push cool air in.

When It's all said and done I should have (some are underclocked):
Miner         watts        no   total watts
S5                 580      1         580
1.5 Dragon     1100    1       1100
S4                 1400    3       4200
SP 20             643     2        1286
c1                  800     2       1600
Avalon 4.1       549    3        1647

          total watts   10413   Speed is normally high 15T's.  

  Nice last winter I had 12  sp20's 1 s-5 and 1 avalon 4.1

   14 pieces  had to underclock them as my power envelope maxes at  7k.

Now with the 2

 240 lines

 I can do 10k easy power wise this coming winter.  but that may never happen.

Yea I'm kinda slow at adding compared to what I once was.   I was over 12k during winter using free cooling from weather.

But I got rid of my S3's and my A1 1T Dragon.  I was going for more efficient gear.  And planned on going down even less but it just didn't happen.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 27, 2015, 03:51:18 AM
Been testing my new area with just the gear in it I showed.  Going to take my time and slowly get rest of it wired.

I had a problem I did not think I would have.  During night with my 3 fans (I still have not put 4th out there) it gets so cold I don't need near what I'm using.  During day it still seems pretty nice in there considering amount of watt's air exhaust currently working good.

So now I am left with spending to much on fans at night .  I either will do a timer on some where at night they kick off and don't run them all.  Or do a more advanced fix where it turns all off at certain temperature and flips on over that temperature.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 27, 2015, 07:22:24 AM
Let there be wind!  Below are the two main fan's being used for pushing air.  I put them where they are aimed pretty much in the middle of each shelving unit.  Together there should be over 15K CFM when on high together.

Looking twords miners:


Looking at fans:



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: mavericklm on April 27, 2015, 09:05:31 AM
overkill? ::) unless you hare filling up the shelves or you got very high temps?!?!

another, better thread imo, should have been ''miners under heat stress''
with tests at 26c, 28c,...... 36c, 38c..... inlet air temps or simplified to 25, 30, 35, 40  


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 27, 2015, 11:30:08 AM
overkill? ::) unless you hare filling up the shelves or you got very high temps?!?!

another, better thread imo, should have been ''miners under heat stress''
with tests at 26c, 28c,...... 36c, 38c..... inlet air temps or simplified to 25, 30, 35, 40  

Yes all shelves will be filled.  Except one should be empty and have 110 an 240 for future expansion.  Currently just testing with a few to see if I like how it's working.  If you read page two it says this...... and it also goes into details and tells every miner going out.....

I have one exhaust hooked to temperature, looking into trying that with all fan's.  If i can't get that to work i will just change the fan's to timer's and turn off some at night.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: mavericklm on April 27, 2015, 12:49:41 PM
sounds good!

i'm looking into moving all my miners outside, on a table ;D. got a workshop with longer roof, going ~3meters from the wall....

s3+ and c1 look good at 25c! around 40c!!!

sp10 on slow(1.3th with 1050w) has 6 asics with 113c and 2 at 107c(1 piece)
sp20 on slow(~1.1th with <600w) got 1 asic at 100c and the rest are ok(3*sp20)


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 27, 2015, 01:19:32 PM
Been testing my new area with just the gear in it I showed.  Going to take my time and slowly get rest of it wired.

I had a problem I did not think I would have.  During night with my 3 fans (I still have not put 4th out there) it gets so cold I don't need near what I'm using.  During day it still seems pretty nice in there considering amount of watt's air exhaust currently working good.

So now I am left with spending to much on fans at night .  I either will do a timer on some where at night they kick off and don't run them all.  Or do a more advanced fix where it turns all off at certain temperature and flips on over that temperature.

I have a link for you wait for it.



meat and potatoes  this one has been running my attic fan correctly since 1997

http://www.amazon.com/Ventamatic-XXFIRESTAT-Adjustable-Thermostat-Ventilators/dp/B002TYK4A6/ref=sr_1_14?

fancy

http://www.zoro.com/i/G4660004/?utm_source=Bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 27, 2015, 01:28:13 PM
sounds good!

i'm looking into moving all my miners outside, on a table ;D. got a workshop with longer roof, going ~3meters from the wall....

s3+ and c1 look good at 25c! around 40c!!!

sp10 on slow(1.3th with 1050w) has 6 asics with 113c and 2 at 107c(1 piece)
sp20 on slow(~1.1th with <600w) got 1 asic at 100c and the rest are ok(3*sp20)


Summer is what caused my move.  I just could not use AC to cool gear way to expensive.   It will be the first time I have all my gear together since I when I very first started with GPU mining, so that will be nice.

And I owe to move for me noticing one S4 had a fan not working great.   I looked closer after moving and saw one had trouble spinning.  Where I had it I guess I just did not notice it.Oiled it up and helped a tiny bit, but a new fan is on it's way.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 27, 2015, 01:32:11 PM
Been testing my new area with just the gear in it I showed.  Going to take my time and slowly get rest of it wired.

I had a problem I did not think I would have.  During night with my 3 fans (I still have not put 4th out there) it gets so cold I don't need near what I'm using.  During day it still seems pretty nice in there considering amount of watt's air exhaust currently working good.

So now I am left with spending to much on fans at night .  I either will do a timer on some where at night they kick off and don't run them all.  Or do a more advanced fix where it turns all off at certain temperature and flips on over that temperature.

I have a link for you wait for it.



meat and potatoes  this one has been running my attic fan correctly since 1997

http://www.amazon.com/Ventamatic-XXFIRESTAT-Adjustable-Thermostat-Ventilators/dp/B002TYK4A6/ref=sr_1_14?

fancy

http://www.zoro.com/i/G4660004/?utm_source=Bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA

Thank you! I appreciate your help as always.  I will look at both of those.

I defiantly need to do one to save some money, I'm all about being efficient with mining.  Turning off fans automatically will be nice.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: mavericklm on April 27, 2015, 01:52:12 PM
i'm curious how s4 does with higher temp...

comparing it to s4+ looks to be more aluminium in the s4
                                               slightly less wattage in the s4

the chips in s4+ might be newer and better too, so higher temps might be ok on the asics

s3+ looks perfect for summer, 25c ambient temps and almost 40c reported in webguy


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 27, 2015, 02:07:18 PM
i'm curious how s4 does with higher temp...

comparing it to s4+ looks to be more aluminium in the s4
                                               slightly less wattage in the s4

the chips in s4+ might be newer and better too, so higher temps might be ok on the asics

s3+ looks perfect for summer, 25c ambient temps and almost 40c reported in webguy

It's stormy week for me today high is less than 70 F. So I won't be able to compare to well to the 80's or so that I expect during summer at some point.

So far they have done great. The only thing is the S4 with broken fan runs about 10 C higher then rest of miner, I did not like it so I underclocked it since hitting high 50's (Higher then I like).  Mid week I should be get the new S4 replacement S4 fan.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 27, 2015, 02:27:04 PM
i'm curious how s4 does with higher temp...

comparing it to s4+ looks to be more aluminium in the s4
                                               slightly less wattage in the s4

the chips in s4+ might be newer and better too, so higher temps might be ok on the asics

s3+ looks perfect for summer, 25c ambient temps and almost 40c reported in webguy

It's stormy week for me today high is less than 70 F. So I won't be able to compare to well to the 80's or so that I expect during summer at some point.

So far they have done great. The only thing is the S4 with broken fan runs about 10 C higher then rest of miner, I did not like it so I underclocked it since hitting high 50's (Higher then I like).  Mid week I should be get the new S4 replacement S4 fan.

I like that mindset.  I find that underclocking has really worked well for me.  My 2 last s-3's are batch 1 they have run 24/7 since july of 2014 0 issues.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 27, 2015, 04:40:07 PM
Here are some of the electrical gadgets i used to check electricity and wires.

Checking the electricity to see if it's getting the 120 volt's.  All 4 put in so far passed this.


This tool is really nice.  It is a circuit tester, and can tell a lot.  If it's wired wrong this could be a big help.  All 4 so far passed this aswell.



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: defcon23 on April 27, 2015, 06:33:35 PM
Nice set up ... but be carefull with electricity and wood environement....
remember that:

http://i.imgur.com/SeuAmi6.jpg

he he he  ;D


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 27, 2015, 10:12:55 PM
Nice set up ... but be carefull with electricity and wood environement....
remember that:

(saving space)

he he he  ;D

I'm not worried on that it will not be near the temp that had to have been going.    Everything so far has been done as safely as possible.

I have a feeling that they were running at a extreme heat.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 28, 2015, 02:39:18 AM
Here is most of the 110 related parts, 220 I still need to take pictures of.


You will see outlet boxes, receptacles, screws/bolts, clams for cable on boxes.  And on wire there is the standard 12-2 yellow wire.  Below that i the box is the now rare grey 12-2 before they changed it in the 90's.   Still great wire on the grey biggest difference is if anything it is insulated better, its harder to strip the wires and main cord.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 28, 2015, 02:44:01 AM
Here is most of the 110 related parts, 220 I still need to take pictures of.


You will see outlet boxes, receptacles, screws/bolts, clams for cable on boxes.  And on wire there is the standard 12-2 yellow wire.  Below that i the box is the now rare grey 12-2 before they changed it in the 90's.   Still great wire on the grey biggest difference is if anything it is insulated better, its harder to strip the wires and main cord.

that gray wire was a bitch to strip.  I wired my entire house in the 90's  I had aluminum and switched to copper.  I had a 250 foot roll of it.  I was glad when I ran out of it.  But it was better quality wire.

I did a few 10 gauge 20 amp wired for subwoofers .  10 gauge was also hard to use.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 28, 2015, 03:04:00 AM
Here is most of the 110 related parts, 220 I still need to take pictures of.


You will see outlet boxes, receptacles, screws/bolts, clams for cable on boxes.  And on wire there is the standard 12-2 yellow wire.  Below that i the box is the now rare grey 12-2 before they changed it in the 90's.   Still great wire on the grey biggest difference is if anything it is insulated better, its harder to strip the wires and main cord.

that gray wire was a bitch to strip.  I wired my entire house in the 90's  I had aluminum and switch to copper.  I had a 250 foot roll of it.  I was glad whne I ran out of it.  But it was better quality wire.

I did a few 10 gauge 20 amp wired for subwoofers .  10 gauge was also hard to use.

Yea I'm not looking forward to it at all.  I am using yellow first.  But on last few they will be out of that grey wire.  Bought to much for a project once and it's just followed me in parts pile.

The yellow stripped so easily and nice I got spoiled.  But this is last roll of this grey wire so most likely I will never use it again after its gone.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 28, 2015, 05:48:38 AM
Well another day of testing.   It seem's to work great on most things so far.  Only thing is I think it could do better at pushing the cold air from windows.

So put this fan by window temporary to see what it does.  If it works I should have a fan can reuse from where some miners are now with I'm guessing around twice the CFM


And I will be going with temperature instead of timing on fan's.  There is no need to be wasteful on electricity.  The timer would had been easy plug in and it works.  Most likely I will wire in the temperature control after it's all wired and have all my gear set up.

Wednesday I get a replacement fan for one of my S4's.    So a few day's longer of under clocking being safe.  Figure a few day's profit isn't worth putting through to much heat.



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 28, 2015, 08:46:21 PM
Below is something I would highly recommend if you wire a box.  It is a cable clamp that screws in where you poke the blank out.   With this it allows you to tighten the cord where if there was pressure on cable you don't have the stripped cables inside the reciprocal slipping out of reciprocal screws.


Cheap to buy but can save you from some dangerous issues.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 29, 2015, 04:45:49 AM
Tomorrow I should get my S4 replacement fan.  I will document putting it in.  I'm hoping just plug in and work but we will see.

After that later in the week will continue the rest of wiring.  4 110's and 1 240 to go.   Almost half way there.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 29, 2015, 11:15:42 PM
S4 fan replacement is done.  Still not quite 100 percent happy on fan setup.  I most likely will see what changes happen when fans move around.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 30, 2015, 07:13:05 AM
To pull in your cold air you need to be right next to the window .

you may need a shroud .  A simple test is use

 http://www.homedepot.com/p/The-Home-Depot-Heavy-Duty-Extra-Large-Box-HDXLBOX/205512613#specifications

it is 22 by 22 not sure if that fan is 24 or 36

but that box can use flaps fully out and attach to the frame on 1 window with duct tape and the other end can get really next to the fan.

If this works you can a) just use the box as it is cheap and easy or b) build a wooden shroud to direct the air from the window to the fan


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 30, 2015, 08:16:16 AM
To pull in your cold air you need to be right next to the window .

you may need a shroud .  A simple test is use

 http://www.homedepot.com/p/The-Home-Depot-Heavy-Duty-Extra-Large-Box-HDXLBOX/205512613#specifications

it is 22 by 22 not sure if that fan is 24 or 36

but that box can use flaps fully out and attach to the frame on 1 window with duct tape and the other end can get really next to the fan.

If this works you can a) just use the box as it is cheap and easy or b) build a wooden shroud to direct the air from the window to the fan

I moved one fan closer to one window.  Once all of them are in there I have an attic fan I'm using with other miners I can put next to other window.

It's kinda a lot of testing and seeing results.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 30, 2015, 08:42:38 AM
They make a perfect duct for my two big fans - http://www.homedepot.com/p/MaxxAir-Flexible-Collapsible-Duct-for-Pro-Series-BF24TFORGPRO-and-BF30DDORGPRO-XXBF2430DUCT/205088387

I'm hoping i can make something though and save the 60 each.  I have some tarps I'm thinking might be able to turn into something like it.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on April 30, 2015, 09:39:00 AM
How much energy are you drawing on cooling with fans for all your units?

Costs?

Any ability to do a wall / window evapo cooling like in a big mining operation?

http://bitcoinnewsbrief.com/blog/inside-one-worlds-largest-bitcoin-mines/ (http://bitcoinnewsbrief.com/blog/inside-one-worlds-largest-bitcoin-mines/)

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Evaporative-Air-Cooler-cooling-pad/32329745450.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Evaporative-Air-Cooler-cooling-pad/32329745450.html)


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 30, 2015, 09:41:44 AM
How much energy are you drawing on cooling with fans for all your units?

Costs?

I need to put a kill-a-watt to it.  I know it's less then a 110 breaker.  But have not got numbers yet.

I just am wanting out of where I had them as it would have had to use AC to cool.  Once I get it all set up I will get some power readings.

As far as options I am pretty open.  I don't know on evaporation unit it is not a common cooling used here, I have yet to deal with one.  I am trying to not cut holes or modify it a ton as far as building.  I would like it to be able to one day when I don't mine seem un-touched.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on April 30, 2015, 09:49:43 AM
Solar panel and DC air conditioner?

Or Evapo cooling in a few windows running a solar powered pump with batteries. Might save a lot more.

Might be worth it if you are thinking to pay for air conditioning powered on the grid will be a killer.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 30, 2015, 10:00:35 AM
Solar panel and DC air conditioner?

Or Evapo cooling in a few windows running a solar powered pump with batteries. Might save a lot more.

Might be worth it if you are thinking to pay for air conditioning powered on the grid will be a killer.


Wish i could justify solar but with around .095 power including taxes etc.   I just cant justify the up front costs.      I am on a farm so they did put a lot of electricity to it.  I have 100 amp just for area I'm moving my miners into so power is not really a issue assuming I can keep making more then I pay for electricity.  I don't plan on using near that much ever.

If I cant get these fan's to work I might look into evapo cooling.  Its just kinda out of my wheel house.  I'm hoping I can get it done with fans once I find best cooling with them.  I just can get a lot more CFM cheaper in regular fans then ac's.  

In next few day's I will try to see if I can direct my fan's a little better.  I am thinking i can make something like http://www.homedepot.com/p/MaxxAir-Flexible-Collapsible-Duct-for-Pro-Series-BF24TFORGPRO-and-BF30DDORGPRO-XXBF2430DUCT/205088387 out of tarp I have laying around so I will at least give it a try.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on April 30, 2015, 01:21:32 PM
Please document it. Possibly some Youtube vids DIY etc if you have time. Be very interesting to see if you can get it cool enough for your units.

Check out Earthship cooling if you have space on the farm to build a root cellar like room you could have the ground do most of the work for you via passive cooling. Just a tube and vent no AC required.

Or this...

http://www.yourhome.gov.au/sites/prod.yourhome.gov.au/files/images/PD-PC-SolarChimneyDiagram-01_fmt.png

Modern version of an Iranian Badgir cooling system where earth exchange and evaporation pre-cool incoming air drawn by a solar chimney.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on April 30, 2015, 01:51:00 PM
Please document it. Possibly some Youtube vids DIY etc if you have time. Be very interesting to see if you can get it cool enough for your units.

Check out Earthship cooling if you have space on the farm to build a root cellar like room you could have the ground do most of the work for you via passive cooling. Just a tube and vent no AC required.

Or this...

http://www.yourhome.gov.au/sites/prod.yourhome.gov.au/files/images/PD-PC-SolarChimneyDiagram-01_fmt.png

Modern version of an Iranian Badgir cooling system where earth exchange and evaporation pre-cool incoming air drawn by a solar chimney.


looks Like a low cost system once the work is done to set it up. other options are reflective bubble wrap inside the attic.


http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/ProductDisplay?catalogId=15052&storeId=10001&langId=-1&division=FarmTek&productId=11835

face silver to the attic roof white at floor.  this stuff will stop sun energy from warming the room.  can go up very easy.

lowes and home depot have the silver- bubble- silver version.

this is whitepoly-bubbl-silver version.  A good power staple gun and it is up quickly.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on April 30, 2015, 06:31:31 PM
Please document it. Possibly some Youtube vids DIY etc if you have time. Be very interesting to see if you can get it cool enough for your units.

Check out Earthship cooling if you have space on the farm to build a root cellar like room you could have the ground do most of the work for you via passive cooling. Just a tube and vent no AC required.

Or this...

http://www.yourhome.gov.au/sites/prod.yourhome.gov.au/files/images/PD-PC-SolarChimneyDiagram-01_fmt.png

Modern version of an Iranian Badgir cooling system where earth exchange and evaporation pre-cool incoming air drawn by a solar chimney.


looks Like a low cost system once the work is done to set it up. other options are reflective bubble wrap inside the attic.


http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/ProductDisplay?catalogId=15052&storeId=10001&langId=-1&division=FarmTek&productId=11835

face silver to the attic roof white at floor.  this stuff will stop sun energy from warming the room.  can go up very easy.

lowes and home depot have the silver- bubble- silver version.

this is whitepoly-bubbl-silver version.  A good power staple gun and it is up quickly.

Not a problem Bicknellski I will be documenting it all.  The successes and failures, ultimetly I hope I end up with a good system I didn't have to spend a fortune on.  This is more of a working log of what happens.  At end I will make a nice and neat version easier to read.

And thanks once again philipma1957 for your advice.  That is a interesting idea.  I'm hoping I don't have to do something like it but good to know there are options if I need to.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 01, 2015, 12:16:41 AM
Well a sucess I basically made 70+ dollar duct work - http://www.homedepot.com/p/MaxxAir-Flexible-Collapsible-Duct-for-Pro-Series-BF24TFORGPRO-and-BF30DDORGPRO-XXBF2430DUCT/205088387 out of tarps.  I need to take pictures.

Going to test it and see how it does with heat early next week should get some 80's temps so good testing conditions as far as summer.

I am happy to save 140 dollars with tarps and electrical tape.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 01, 2015, 04:29:55 AM
Guide posted for S4 fan replacement - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=796839.msg11250003#msg11250003

Needless to say it went well.    After I test my tarp duct work and get some pictures to show.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 01, 2015, 07:09:25 AM
Little bit of random pictures that I have not posted yet.  One I suggest even if working with electricity of getting a nice set of non-conductive screw drivers.  I'm over cautious


In case you are completely unfamiliar with receptacle box here is what is in the receptacle box.



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on May 01, 2015, 04:17:26 PM
Well a sucess I basically made 70+ dollar duct work - http://www.homedepot.com/p/MaxxAir-Flexible-Collapsible-Duct-for-Pro-Series-BF24TFORGPRO-and-BF30DDORGPRO-XXBF2430DUCT/205088387 out of tarps.  I need to take pictures.

Going to test it and see how it does with heat early next week should get some 80's temps so good testing conditions as far as summer.

I am happy to save 140 dollars with tarps and electrical tape.

I am looking forward to results on this..


power used with fans on at 80f.  room temp with fans on at 80 f---------also gear temps-------gear fan speeds

vs

power used with fans off at 80 f . room temp with fans on at 80 f-----------also gear temps-----gear fan speeds


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 02, 2015, 01:37:49 AM
Still playing around with the area to see what is best.   I will have some pictures uploaded later tonight of my tarp ductwork.

It saved me around 140 dollars to use tarps I had laying around compared to the duct work I linked earlier.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 02, 2015, 06:09:58 AM
Here is a picture of homemade duct work for 24 inch fans.  They do make proper duct work for around 70 dollars each.  It is made out of lighter material, and it does have a structure to keep it open.   Mine is kept open by mostly using fan air, and also using a string holding the end of it up.  Between the two it allows the fan's to be by windows and push air through these home made duct's.  Still working to see what best fan set up is.


Here is a view closer to the inside of one of the two:



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 02, 2015, 10:07:14 PM
Still working on best fan positions.  The duct work from window with fans did not really help much.  But at least I got to try it without spending the 140 dollars.

So still looking at options.   The evaporation cooling looks like my humidity will be to high for me to get maximum effect, so I need to find other options.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on May 02, 2015, 10:20:37 PM
Still working on best fan positions.  The duct work from window with fans did not really help much.  But at least I got to try it without spending the 140 dollars.

So still looking at options.   The evaporation cooling looks like my humidity will be to high for me to get maximum effect, so I need to find other options.

1 duct push pull


so window- fan(push>) -duct- fan(pull>)- miners   ---------high fan in wall   { pull }> out side


 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  air flow

those ducts are far from the window.   2 fans in push- pull may keep speed and air pressure higher


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 03, 2015, 03:40:36 PM
Combination of solar tower to draw air out and a ground pipe buried to bring cool air in. Fans might not be required.

Need to see the building or diagram to design something that might work. With the right temperature gradient you don't need fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTCRDIAE_0


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 03, 2015, 03:49:39 PM
Combination of solar tower to draw air out and a ground pipe buried to bring cool air in. Fans might not be required.

Need to see the building or diagram to design something that might work. With the right temperature gradient you don't need fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTCRDIAE_0

Sadly this is beyond me on what I can do.   With building already being there, it is hard to start from scratch on something like this.

I really need to do fan's or something a little more traditional. I do appreciate your ideas though.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 03, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
You can vent from ground to window air would be sucked across the building to another window with a fitted tube as the solar tower.

Without having to penetrate walls using existing windows.


Black culvert pipe could be your vertical tower and that is vented from the window on the southern side of the building with that makeshift venting you made.

http://pipepolicy.org/files/images/1381273914800598.jpg

Install a ground pipe on the north side and use your makeshift tubes to vent through your window.

No fans required if you can get a good seal on the windows you will draw heat continually out of the building day and night.

http://www.yourhome.gov.au/sites/prod.yourhome.gov.au/files/images/PD-PC-SolarChimneyDiagram-01_fmt.png


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on May 03, 2015, 04:44:01 PM
that is a nice simple cooling system.  It figures that the idea comes from  a Desert hot  dry country.

I wonder if there are NEW Mexican Indian designs that could also work.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 03, 2015, 08:19:04 PM
that is a nice simple cooling system.  It figures that the idea comes from  a Desert hot  dry country.

I wonder if there are NEW Mexican Indian designs that could also work.

That is my problem partially I don't have the "dry heat" with no humidity.

I do have humidity so it makes evaporation and some options not near as effective.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: redhunter on May 03, 2015, 10:50:34 PM
I do have humidity so it makes evaporation and some options not near as effective.

I'm stuck with humidity as well.  I'm going to give one of these a try:

https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/fans/blower/portable-ventilation-fan-8-inch-with-16-feet-flexible-ducting

Got my miners in crawlspace under the house that you can walk in for the most part.  It has a number of foundation vents and I plan to vent the flexible duct out of one of the foundation vents, which will hopefully draw in an adequate amount of air from the rest of the foundation vents.  I might try to build a shroud to capture the miner exhaust into the blower.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 03, 2015, 10:58:55 PM
I do have humidity so it makes evaporation and some options not near as effective.

I'm stuck with humidity as well.  I'm going to give one of these a try:

https://www.globalindustrial.com/p/hvac/fans/blower/portable-ventilation-fan-8-inch-with-16-feet-flexible-ducting

Got my miners in crawlspace under the house that you can walk in for the most part.  It has a number of foundation vents and I plan to vent the flexible duct out of one of the foundation vents, which will hopefully draw in an adequate amount of air from the rest of the foundation vents.  I might try to build a shroud to capture the miner exhaust into the blower.

I'm currently looking at a few options.  One is upgrading the gable fan.... but it's pricy for what I want.  It was meant  for contractors with around 3000 CFM from gable fan.

But even if I get that I think it's to far away to get all the heat.  Its just a massive massive room.  So I'm taking it slow seeing what I can do.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 07, 2015, 02:08:44 AM
Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area. 

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 07, 2015, 05:45:11 AM
Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area.  

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.

Is there a way to dehumidify the air coming in?

Do you have adequate roof ventilation?

Seems odd you would have humidity issues is that because of the open windows?

Got any cheap desiccants like rice husks, wheat stalks or rock salt?

Found this on a DIY site:

Quote
Rock Salt

I have tried this rock salt method and it works for me.

Materials you will need:

2 five gallon buckets and a bag of rock salt .Rock salt will pull moisture out of the air, therefore decreasing humidity.

Using a drill, put some holes, a couple dozen, in the sides and bottom of 1 bucket. Place the bucket with the holes on top of the intact 5 gallon bucket. Pour rock salt into the top bucket. Place the buckets in the area to be dehumidified.

As the rock salt pulls moisture out of the air, the moisture will collect in the bottom bucket, Dump liquid and replace rock salt in order to continue dehumidifying the area if necessary.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 07, 2015, 05:57:53 AM
Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area.  

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.

Is there a way to dehumidify the air coming in?

Do you have adequate roof ventilation?

Seems odd you would have humidity issues is that because of the open windows?

Got any cheap desiccants like rice husks, wheat stalks or rock salt?

Found this on a DIY site:

Quote
Rock Salt

I have tried this rock salt method and it works for me.

Materials you will need:

2 five gallon buckets and a bag of rock salt .Rock salt will pull moisture out of the air, therefore decreasing humidity.

Using a drill, put some holes, a couple dozen, in the sides and bottom of 1 bucket. Place the bucket with the holes on top of the intact 5 gallon bucket. Pour rock salt into the top bucket. Place the buckets in the area to be dehumidified.

As the rock salt pulls moisture out of the air, the moisture will collect in the bottom bucket, Dump liquid and replace rock salt in order to continue dehumidifying the area if necessary.

I don't have humidity issues.  But i don't have the "dry heat" that evaporation is used with.  The weather has a humidity of 61 percent currently.  

So I assume humidity such as this makes evaporation cooling not a option.  Unless I just don't understand evaporation cooling which is possible.   I truly would appreciate your advice if I am understanding it wrong.

Yes it has windows open, which allow the air from outside with currently 61 percent humidity.

On adequate roof ventilation. It's never been a problem before gable fan has always worked.   Along with roof vent's. But with miners it might need more I'm not sure.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 07, 2015, 01:16:17 PM
Oh ok...

I assumed you had humidity issues at your site not related to the evaporative cooling idea. My bad.

Evaporative cooling is used in Jakarta we have very high humidity all the time but they are running those on a much different system and definitely not evaporative walls like in those mega farms. Most of those places (mining farms in China) would have the same relative humidity / climate as where you are but I am sure they have it worked out to keep humidity down inside as these systems are used predominantly in chicken farms / greenhouses. Greenhouses and poultry farms can't have high humidity either as that would promote disease. I suspect the way it works is the heat is removed and the water is trapped in the panels and it freely escaping inside and outside the panel so it may not be adding all that much humidity inside and if you got good vents you should have no issues.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Huabo-ventilation-cooling-pad_1697720317.html?s=p

 Greenhouse Evaporative Cooler Build (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A67u3NyC9w8)

Youtube video comments:

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jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 Amazing. I just bought all the stuff on Amazon and gonna build it in a couple of weeks in the Bahamas.

My only concern is the humidity. I dont know if it will work in my greenhouse there.
I am going to build a small starter greenhouse 6x8 and gonna run the pump and Fan on solar. What do you think how much degrees I will go down in these areas? (ps I am Dutch so dont mind my English writing)

Thanks for sharing and compliments for the detailed list and your decent work. It does look very pro and nice!!
Jorgen
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Keyplayr61 Greenhouse Hydroponics And Gardens 6 months ago
 If you could somehow filter the water to get as much salt, and particles out of it as you can, it would be best. The salt film will most likely stop up the pad. I don't think it would harm the plants, since the air in your climate probably has as much, or more salt in it than you would be introducing to the greenhouse through the evap system. The system can go through quite a bit of water in a days time, at least it does for me anyway. That's why I have a float valve with a water supply line attached to it on the reservoir. It's not a ridiculous amount, but substantial all the same. In other words, you would have to check, and refill at least every 4 hours, depending on the size of your tank, and how long is required to run to maintain your desired temp. I'm looking forward to seeing the setup, when you get done!
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jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 +keyplayr61 okay thanks :) I will think about it and I can monitor the water usage. If it is 100 gallon a month I am not worried but if it is 1000gal then I will be in trouble haha. Sometimes we dont get rain for 2 month :) And yes I am going to build exactly as you did, with a floatvalve. To be continued...


Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area.  

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.

Is there a way to dehumidify the air coming in?

Do you have adequate roof ventilation?

Seems odd you would have humidity issues is that because of the open windows?

Got any cheap desiccants like rice husks, wheat stalks or rock salt?

Found this on a DIY site:

Quote
Rock Salt

I have tried this rock salt method and it works for me.

Materials you will need:

2 five gallon buckets and a bag of rock salt .Rock salt will pull moisture out of the air, therefore decreasing humidity.

Using a drill, put some holes, a couple dozen, in the sides and bottom of 1 bucket. Place the bucket with the holes on top of the intact 5 gallon bucket. Pour rock salt into the top bucket. Place the buckets in the area to be dehumidified.

As the rock salt pulls moisture out of the air, the moisture will collect in the bottom bucket, Dump liquid and replace rock salt in order to continue dehumidifying the area if necessary.

I don't have humidity issues.  But i don't have the "dry heat" that evaporation is used with.  The weather has a humidity of 61 percent currently.  

So I assume humidity such as this makes evaporation cooling not a option.  Unless I just don't understand evaporation cooling which is possible.   I truly would appreciate your advice if I am understanding it wrong.

Yes it has windows open, which allow the air from outside with currently 61 percent humidity.

On adequate roof ventilation. It's never been a problem before gable fan has always worked.   Along with roof vent's. But with miners it might need more I'm not sure.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 07, 2015, 10:54:59 PM
Oh ok...

I assumed you had humidity issues at your site not related to the evaporative cooling idea. My bad.

Evaporative cooling is used in Jakarta we have very high humidity all the time but they are running those on a much different system and definitely not evaporative walls like in those mega farms. Most of those places (mining farms in China) would have the same relative humidity / climate as where you are but I am sure they have it worked out to keep humidity down inside as these systems are used predominantly in chicken farms / greenhouses. Greenhouses and poultry farms can't have high humidity either as that would promote disease. I suspect the way it works is the heat is removed and the water is trapped in the panels and it freely escaping inside and outside the panel so it may not be adding all that much humidity inside and if you got good vents you should have no issues.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Huabo-ventilation-cooling-pad_1697720317.html?s=p

 Greenhouse Evaporative Cooler Build (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A67u3NyC9w8)

Youtube video comments:

Quote
jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 Amazing. I just bought all the stuff on Amazon and gonna build it in a couple of weeks in the Bahamas.

My only concern is the humidity. I dont know if it will work in my greenhouse there.
I am going to build a small starter greenhouse 6x8 and gonna run the pump and Fan on solar. What do you think how much degrees I will go down in these areas? (ps I am Dutch so dont mind my English writing)

Thanks for sharing and compliments for the detailed list and your decent work. It does look very pro and nice!!
Jorgen
Read more
 Reply  ·
View all 4 replies
 
Keyplayr61 Greenhouse Hydroponics And Gardens 6 months ago
 If you could somehow filter the water to get as much salt, and particles out of it as you can, it would be best. The salt film will most likely stop up the pad. I don't think it would harm the plants, since the air in your climate probably has as much, or more salt in it than you would be introducing to the greenhouse through the evap system. The system can go through quite a bit of water in a days time, at least it does for me anyway. That's why I have a float valve with a water supply line attached to it on the reservoir. It's not a ridiculous amount, but substantial all the same. In other words, you would have to check, and refill at least every 4 hours, depending on the size of your tank, and how long is required to run to maintain your desired temp. I'm looking forward to seeing the setup, when you get done!
Read more
 Reply  ·
 
jorgen houtsma 6 months ago
 +keyplayr61 okay thanks :) I will think about it and I can monitor the water usage. If it is 100 gallon a month I am not worried but if it is 1000gal then I will be in trouble haha. Sometimes we dont get rain for 2 month :) And yes I am going to build exactly as you did, with a floatvalve. To be continued...


Been waiting on it. So far have only half my gear testing area.  

I still need to make changes.  It is hard that I have humidity so a lot of easy options are not possible for me.

Working on a few ideas I will update it once I try one.

Is there a way to dehumidify the air coming in?

Do you have adequate roof ventilation?

Seems odd you would have humidity issues is that because of the open windows?

Got any cheap desiccants like rice husks, wheat stalks or rock salt?

Found this on a DIY site:

Quote
Rock Salt

I have tried this rock salt method and it works for me.

Materials you will need:

2 five gallon buckets and a bag of rock salt .Rock salt will pull moisture out of the air, therefore decreasing humidity.

Using a drill, put some holes, a couple dozen, in the sides and bottom of 1 bucket. Place the bucket with the holes on top of the intact 5 gallon bucket. Pour rock salt into the top bucket. Place the buckets in the area to be dehumidified.

As the rock salt pulls moisture out of the air, the moisture will collect in the bottom bucket, Dump liquid and replace rock salt in order to continue dehumidifying the area if necessary.

I don't have humidity issues.  But i don't have the "dry heat" that evaporation is used with.  The weather has a humidity of 61 percent currently.  

So I assume humidity such as this makes evaporation cooling not a option.  Unless I just don't understand evaporation cooling which is possible.   I truly would appreciate your advice if I am understanding it wrong.

Yes it has windows open, which allow the air from outside with currently 61 percent humidity.

On adequate roof ventilation. It's never been a problem before gable fan has always worked.   Along with roof vent's. But with miners it might need more I'm not sure.

Not a problem at all I appriciate all your ideas. I wish my weather would make it possible.  But evaporation just is not built for the humid weather.

I'm still looking into other ideas.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 07, 2015, 11:42:04 PM
Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 08, 2015, 07:01:15 AM
Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer. 


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 08, 2015, 08:14:26 AM
Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 08, 2015, 08:28:39 AM
Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.



Do you have any advice that is more "plug and play".   Something that I can buy and plug in to cool it down.   The building wall is beyond me currently on my ability. 

What i have done right now is separate my asics in two main areas.  It is disappointing to not put all in this area, but I guess maybe winter if I cannot get heat down.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 08, 2015, 10:22:18 AM
Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.



Do you have any advice that is more "plug and play".   Something that I can buy and plug in to cool it down.   The building wall is beyond me currently on my ability.  

What i have done right now is separate my asics in two main areas.  It is disappointing to not put all in this area, but I guess maybe winter if I cannot get heat down.

Need to see the space layout some sort of plan view or diagram etc to think about it and suggest any ideas on what might be viable options. Again the video I posted is a simple window mount DIY take you a weekend to set up and building and install.

 There are portable evap coolers as well. (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Champion-Cooler-2800-CFM-2-Speed-Window-Evaporative-Cooler-for-600-sq-ft-with-Motor-WCM28/100143013)


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 08, 2015, 10:42:17 AM
Your humidity is higher than Georgia In the US? That video was shot there. You don't need dry conditions it works in Georgia with very high humidity in the summer. Good luck.

In the Kansas area.  Yes it is a high humidity area during summer.  

Nothing compared to Georgia and Kansas is very similar to China where those mega farms use the evaporative cooling walls. Should be fine. I am seriously considering it for our 3rd Floor at our school just exactly like it is in the video as a trial. I only need it 5 days a week for a few hours a day here and we are nearly on the Equator.



Do you have any advice that is more "plug and play".   Something that I can buy and plug in to cool it down.   The building wall is beyond me currently on my ability.  

What i have done right now is separate my asics in two main areas.  It is disappointing to not put all in this area, but I guess maybe winter if I cannot get heat down.

Need to see the space layout some sort of plan view or diagram etc to think about it and suggest any ideas on what might be viable options. Again the video I posted is a simple window mount DIY take you a weekend to set up and building and install.

 There are portable evap coolers as well. (http://www.homedepot.com/p/Champion-Cooler-2800-CFM-2-Speed-Window-Evaporative-Cooler-for-600-sq-ft-with-Motor-WCM28/100143013)

Thanks I will try to see if I can get some dimensions.  I was going to do it already but could not find my long tape.

Truly I do appreciate your help.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 09, 2015, 09:47:32 AM
Looking into many options.  Mainly gable fan's.   Most likely going to replace with 2x or 3x current CFM.  Don't need it this moment so still shopping around.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 09, 2015, 12:36:07 PM
Looking into many options.  Mainly gable fan's.   Most likely going to replace with 2x or 3x current CFM.  Don't need it this moment so still shopping around.

More airflow might be all you need. Good Luck.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 11, 2015, 05:27:07 AM
I'm still shopping around looking at gable fan's.  I think I can get air moving a lot more then I have at ceiling height.  I'm looking at gable fan's around 3000 CFM to get around 2.5-3x more CFM then current one. 

Still shopping around might see if any local hardware stores have coupons.  I don't have any good ones.  On the two big ones I got 50 off 250 so a good coupon.  Nothing like that so far.  I'm all for a good deal :)


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on May 11, 2015, 01:05:49 PM
I'm still shopping around looking at gable fan's.  I think I can get air moving a lot more then I have at ceiling height.  I'm looking at gable fan's around 3000 CFM to get around 2.5-3x more CFM then current one.  

Still shopping around might see if any local hardware stores have coupons.  I don't have any good ones.  On the two big ones I got 50 off 250 so a good coupon.  Nothing like that so far.  I'm all for a good deal :)

1.49 for the 50 off 250

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOWES-PROMO-CODE-ONLINE-ONLY-50-off-250-or-more-purchase-FAST-SHIPPING-/261883855856?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf97e83f0

I have 0 idea if he is any good.

I can buy one for you if you do not have an ebay account.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 11, 2015, 09:17:40 PM
I'm still shopping around looking at gable fan's.  I think I can get air moving a lot more then I have at ceiling height.  I'm looking at gable fan's around 3000 CFM to get around 2.5-3x more CFM then current one.  

Still shopping around might see if any local hardware stores have coupons.  I don't have any good ones.  On the two big ones I got 50 off 250 so a good coupon.  Nothing like that so far.  I'm all for a good deal :)

1.49 for the 50 off 250

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOWES-PROMO-CODE-ONLINE-ONLY-50-off-250-or-more-purchase-FAST-SHIPPING-/261883855856?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf97e83f0

I have 0 idea if he is any good.

I can buy one for you if you do not have an ebay account.

You are amazing as always.  That is actually the coupon I used for getting the two fans they accepted it then. (don't now seller though my dad got the coupon, hes into saving money as much as me :) )

Here is the gable fan I have been looking at: http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381   

Home depot does not have any great coupons though, and Lowes might or might not take coupon as Home Depot does not have item.  Also its special order it to store or home no stock as most don't need this CFM so high.   So I it's a very YMMV on getting them to accept a competitors coupon on this.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on May 12, 2015, 11:54:10 AM
I'm still shopping around looking at gable fan's.  I think I can get air moving a lot more then I have at ceiling height.  I'm looking at gable fan's around 3000 CFM to get around 2.5-3x more CFM then current one.  

Still shopping around might see if any local hardware stores have coupons.  I don't have any good ones.  On the two big ones I got 50 off 250 so a good coupon.  Nothing like that so far.  I'm all for a good deal :)

1.49 for the 50 off 250

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOWES-PROMO-CODE-ONLINE-ONLY-50-off-250-or-more-purchase-FAST-SHIPPING-/261883855856?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf97e83f0

I have 0 idea if he is any good.

I can buy one for you if you do not have an ebay account.

You are amazing as always.  That is actually the coupon I used for getting the two fans they accepted it then. (don't now seller though my dad got the coupon, hes into saving money as much as me :) )

Here is the gable fan I have been looking at: http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381  

Home depot does not have any great coupons though, and Lowes might or might not take coupon as Home Depot does not have item.  Also its special order it to store or home no stock as most don't need this CFM so high.   So I it's a very YMMV on getting them to accept a competitors coupon on this.

remember   I have 2 of these   I can send them for shipping only  maybe 30-35 bucks.  Helps me clean my garage.

these fans do 550 cfm each or 1100 cfm for 2




http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-Comair-Rotron-Fans-Model-CLE2T2-used/221759409080?

with grills

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/903/RlFU2R.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/Iew7Qt.jpg


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 12, 2015, 03:51:19 PM
I'm still shopping around looking at gable fan's.  I think I can get air moving a lot more then I have at ceiling height.  I'm looking at gable fan's around 3000 CFM to get around 2.5-3x more CFM then current one.  

Still shopping around might see if any local hardware stores have coupons.  I don't have any good ones.  On the two big ones I got 50 off 250 so a good coupon.  Nothing like that so far.  I'm all for a good deal :)

1.49 for the 50 off 250

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOWES-PROMO-CODE-ONLINE-ONLY-50-off-250-or-more-purchase-FAST-SHIPPING-/261883855856?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf97e83f0

I have 0 idea if he is any good.

I can buy one for you if you do not have an ebay account.

You are amazing as always.  That is actually the coupon I used for getting the two fans they accepted it then. (don't now seller though my dad got the coupon, hes into saving money as much as me :) )

Here is the gable fan I have been looking at: http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381  

Home depot does not have any great coupons though, and Lowes might or might not take coupon as Home Depot does not have item.  Also its special order it to store or home no stock as most don't need this CFM so high.   So I it's a very YMMV on getting them to accept a competitors coupon on this.

remember   I have 2 of these   I can send them for shipping only  maybe 30-35 bucks.  Helps me clean my garage.

these fans do 550 cfm each or 1100 cfm for 2




http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-Comair-Rotron-Fans-Model-CLE2T2-used/221759409080?

with grills

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/903/RlFU2R.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/Iew7Qt.jpg


Thank you.  Your being awesome as always.  I will keep this in mind.

I am hoping gable fan does the trick.  But if not fans like this might be what I need.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on May 12, 2015, 04:00:57 PM
...

Here is the gable fan I have been looking at: http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381  

Home depot does not have any great coupons though, and Lowes might or might not take coupon as Home Depot does not have item.  Also its special order it to store or home no stock as most don't need this CFM so high.   So I it's a very YMMV on getting them to accept a competitors coupon on this.

remember   I have 2 of these   I can send them for shipping only  maybe 30-35 bucks.  Helps me clean my garage.

these fans do 550 cfm each or 1100 cfm for 2




http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-Comair-Rotron-Fans-Model-CLE2T2-used/221759409080?

with grills

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/903/RlFU2R.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/Iew7Qt.jpg

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Thank you.  Your being awesome as always.  I will keep this in mind.

I am hoping gable fan does the trick.  But if not fans like this might be what I need.
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let me know a spot 555 cfm fan or 2 may help as booster 

      1 ------------2---------3----------4--------------------------5
   windows>>>fans>>>gear>>[/b] my boosters>>>> gable fan


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 14, 2015, 03:25:13 AM
Ended up finally ordering my new gable fan -  http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381 .   It was not a item they had in stock at the store, I had to order online.   

I will document taking old one out and putting this one in.  It will be around a week to week and a half to get it.   But with the 2.5 or so times more power then old gable fan I think I will see a noticeable difference. 


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 14, 2015, 09:20:49 AM
Ended up finally ordering my new gable fan -  http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381 .   It was not a item they had in stock at the store, I had to order online.   

I will document taking old one out and putting this one in.  It will be around a week to week and a half to get it.   But with the 2.5 or so times more power then old gable fan I think I will see a noticeable difference. 

Should move a lot of air. Will you require it at night through the summer? Going to push your costs up some to keep those units cool runing a fan 24/7.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 14, 2015, 09:30:29 AM
Ended up finally ordering my new gable fan -  http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381 .   It was not a item they had in stock at the store, I had to order online.   

I will document taking old one out and putting this one in.  It will be around a week to week and a half to get it.   But with the 2.5 or so times more power then old gable fan I think I will see a noticeable difference. 

Should move a lot of air. Will you require it at night through the summer? Going to push your costs up some to keep those units cool runing a fan 24/7.

I am lucky with the gable fan I already have the gear to have it set to only be on if above a certain temp.  So this will case in most cases it not to be needed at night. 

I justified it as I would not mind having it in there even if I am not mining one day. 


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 15, 2015, 12:09:09 AM
Something interesting I got selected for a "Random Electric Survey"   from the electric company.  The survey has like 5 ish pages of filling out to get a possible 10 dollar credit.... ill pass.

But I don't think it was random looks like my usage was noticed but all I got was a survey so not bad.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: crazyearner on May 15, 2015, 10:06:15 PM
Just an idea to have more of a controlled unit, seal the unit up have holes cut in sections around where the units are maybe seal in something that is fire proof so that if on the unlikely event it then wont fry anywhere else.

For the fans you got blowing on it you could use something like this with cut outs on it or using smaller

http://202.67.224.133/pdimage/03/3824203_portable.jpg

You could do a Y shape pipe work so its one fan reduce energy costs. or do a  Y shape 1 into 2 and then 2 into 1 opposite ends and fully channel the air in and out.

Reduce your ambient, room tempas much as possibly. You could go to the real extreme and have insulation throughout the rooms roof and walls and have it done in icynene foam product as this works with seasonal control keeping out out and warm in and also the exact thing you want keeping cold in and hot out.                                             


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 15, 2015, 10:28:12 PM
Just an idea to have more of a controlled unit, seal the unit up have holes cut in sections around where the units are maybe seal in something that is fire proof so that if on the unlikely event it then wont fry anywhere else.

For the fans you got blowing on it you could use something like this with cut outs on it or using smaller

http://202.67.224.133/pdimage/03/3824203_portable.jpg

You could do a Y shape pipe work so its one fan reduce energy costs. or do a  Y shape 1 into 2 and then 2 into 1 opposite ends and fully channel the air in and out.

Reduce your ambient, room tempas much as possibly. You could go to the real extreme and have insulation throughout the rooms roof and walls and have it done in icynene foam product as this works with seasonal control keeping out out and warm in and also the exact thing you want keeping cold in and hot out.                                             

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: crazyearner on May 15, 2015, 10:33:44 PM
Just an idea to have more of a controlled unit, seal the unit up have holes cut in sections around where the units are maybe seal in something that is fire proof so that if on the unlikely event it then wont fry anywhere else.

For the fans you got blowing on it you could use something like this with cut outs on it or using smaller

http://202.67.224.133/pdimage/03/3824203_portable.jpg

You could do a Y shape pipe work so its one fan reduce energy costs. or do a  Y shape 1 into 2 and then 2 into 1 opposite ends and fully channel the air in and out.

Reduce your ambient, room tempas much as possibly. You could go to the real extreme and have insulation throughout the rooms roof and walls and have it done in icynene foam product as this works with seasonal control keeping out out and warm in and also the exact thing you want keeping cold in and hot out.                                             

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.

With them Windows are they the only 2 in that room any doors in it. Maybe get bigger windows in and get some fans installed on them :) SO many options but limited by the space you have in their maybe a clear out of some stuff or tidy up some of it and sort out. Could come up with a room plan is that the total size almost from the pics or it go other way a fair bit too.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 15, 2015, 10:46:10 PM
Just an idea to have more of a controlled unit, seal the unit up have holes cut in sections around where the units are maybe seal in something that is fire proof so that if on the unlikely event it then wont fry anywhere else.

For the fans you got blowing on it you could use something like this with cut outs on it or using smaller

http://202.67.224.133/pdimage/03/3824203_portable.jpg

You could do a Y shape pipe work so its one fan reduce energy costs. or do a  Y shape 1 into 2 and then 2 into 1 opposite ends and fully channel the air in and out.

Reduce your ambient, room tempas much as possibly. You could go to the real extreme and have insulation throughout the rooms roof and walls and have it done in icynene foam product as this works with seasonal control keeping out out and warm in and also the exact thing you want keeping cold in and hot out.                                             

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.

With them Windows are they the only 2 in that room any doors in it. Maybe get bigger windows in and get some fans installed on them :) SO many options but limited by the space you have in their maybe a clear out of some stuff or tidy up some of it and sort out. Could come up with a room plan is that the total size almost from the pics or it go other way a fair bit too.

Bigger windows and insulation will not be happening.  Just expense's that I really don't want to spend.   I have to be able to justify it and still make money overall with btc.  I have split them into 2 spots at the moment and works fine.  After gable I'm hoping I can move more into there. 

After new gable is replaced I will have the old one slightly over 1000 rpm I can use if I need to push more air inside.  But it is working good right now so I'm happy.  Just need to get it where I can put them all in there.  No matter what during winter they will all be in there easily.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on May 16, 2015, 02:11:33 AM
...

Here is the gable fan I have been looking at: http://www.homedepot.com/p/QuietCool-Professional-3013-CFM-Power-Gable-Mount-Attic-Fan-AFG-PRO-3-0/206047381  

Home depot does not have any great coupons though, and Lowes might or might not take coupon as Home Depot does not have item.  Also its special order it to store or home no stock as most don't need this CFM so high.   So I it's a very YMMV on getting them to accept a competitors coupon on this.

remember   I have 2 of these   I can send them for shipping only  maybe 30-35 bucks.  Helps me clean my garage.

these fans do 550 cfm each or 1100 cfm for 2




http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-Comair-Rotron-Fans-Model-CLE2T2-used/221759409080?

with grills

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/903/RlFU2R.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800x600q90/538/Iew7Qt.jpg



Nice thread guys! notlist3d and phil as always the best!  ;D

Phil I will be curious to get one of you fan. How much to ship to Canada ?? Let me know!


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on May 16, 2015, 02:15:34 AM
I was looking to find a way to drop the temp of my setup and I was looking to put my S5 and S3 upside down and add a stove hood on top of it. Then blow the air out.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 16, 2015, 03:39:49 AM
I was looking to find a way to drop the temp of my setup and I was looking to put my S5 and S3 upside down and add a stove hood on top of it. Then blow the air out.

The S5 is one of the worst on heat.  In this area i have 2 sp20's, 1 SP5, 2 S4's, 1 Dragon 1.5 and the hottest by a decent amount is the S5. 


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: mavericklm on May 16, 2015, 03:47:43 AM
I was looking to find a way to drop the temp of my setup and I was looking to put my S5 and S3 upside down and add a stove hood on top of it. Then blow the air out.

The S5 is one of the worst on heat.  In this area i have 2 sp20's, 1 SP5, 2 S4's, 1 Dragon 1.5 and the hottest by a decent amount is the S5. 

if you compare them by their own sensors, then the comparation is like between apples and bananas :D


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 16, 2015, 03:55:57 AM
I was looking to find a way to drop the temp of my setup and I was looking to put my S5 and S3 upside down and add a stove hood on top of it. Then blow the air out.

The S5 is one of the worst on heat.  In this area i have 2 sp20's, 1 SP5, 2 S4's, 1 Dragon 1.5 and the hottest by a decent amount is the S5. 

if you compare them by their own sensors, then the comparation is like between apples and bananas :D

I spent a while in with the gear comparing temperatures.  That is part of what made me decide on getting new gable fan.  It seemed the hot air I just was not getting rid of fast enough.

It is ok right now but I know it can be better :)


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: ThePhwner on May 16, 2015, 01:18:20 PM
I figure we are getting close to summer for most.  I know I am working on my summer mining area slowly.  Figured start a thread we can rate summer needs such as fan's or other equipment to keep your miners cool.

I converted the mud room to a miner room. We use some of the high-velocity metal blade fans you mention, but also stuck one of these in the window that the miners exhaust towards:

http://www.canarm.com/HVAC/Wall_Mounted_Shutter_Fans/XFS_Series_Exhaust_Shutter_Fan (http://www.canarm.com/HVAC/Wall_Mounted_Shutter_Fans/XFS_Series_Exhaust_Shutter_Fan)

XFS Series Exhaust Shutter Fan

  • Smooth, quiet, reliable, maintenance free operation.
  • Available in 12” to 24” sizes.
  • 12” and 16” models are 3 speed
  • 20” and 24” models are 2 speed.
  • Durable steel construction with powder coat black finish.
  • Swept back, high efficiency, low noise blade design.
  • Quiet, aluminum shutters with tie bar to maximize airflow.
  • Strong powder coated OSHA guarding inside.
  • ETL certified
  • Euro design outside rotor motor for higher efficiency.
  • Totally enclosed with sealed ball bearings
  • Pull chain speed control
  • 9 foot cord with 115 volt, 3-prong plug
  • Fans shipped totally assembled.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 16, 2015, 01:43:49 PM
I figure we are getting close to summer for most.  I know I am working on my summer mining area slowly.  Figured start a thread we can rate summer needs such as fan's or other equipment to keep your miners cool.

I converted the mud room to a miner room. We use some of the high-velocity metal blade fans you mention, but also stuck one of these in the window that the miners exhaust towards:

http://www.canarm.com/HVAC/Wall_Mounted_Shutter_Fans/XFS_Series_Exhaust_Shutter_Fan (http://www.canarm.com/HVAC/Wall_Mounted_Shutter_Fans/XFS_Series_Exhaust_Shutter_Fan)

XFS Series Exhaust Shutter Fan

  • Smooth, quiet, reliable, maintenance free operation.
  • Available in 12” to 24” sizes.
  • 12” and 16” models are 3 speed
  • 20” and 24” models are 2 speed.
  • Durable steel construction with powder coat black finish.
  • Swept back, high efficiency, low noise blade design.
  • Quiet, aluminum shutters with tie bar to maximize airflow.
  • Strong powder coated OSHA guarding inside.
  • ETL certified
  • Euro design outside rotor motor for higher efficiency.
  • Totally enclosed with sealed ball bearings
  • Pull chain speed control
  • 9 foot cord with 115 volt, 3-prong plug
  • Fans shipped totally assembled.

Very interesting design.  Thank you for posting. I'm currently pulling air in from the windows and going out through gable and roof vent's.   So not what I need right  now but a good option if I ever changed design.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: crazyearner on May 16, 2015, 05:26:38 PM
Just an idea to have more of a controlled unit, seal the unit up have holes cut in sections around where the units are maybe seal in something that is fire proof so that if on the unlikely event it then wont fry anywhere else.

For the fans you got blowing on it you could use something like this with cut outs on it or using smaller

http://202.67.224.133/pdimage/03/3824203_portable.jpg

You could do a Y shape pipe work so its one fan reduce energy costs. or do a  Y shape 1 into 2 and then 2 into 1 opposite ends and fully channel the air in and out.

Reduce your ambient, room tempas much as possibly. You could go to the real extreme and have insulation throughout the rooms roof and walls and have it done in icynene foam product as this works with seasonal control keeping out out and warm in and also the exact thing you want keeping cold in and hot out.                                             

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.

With them Windows are they the only 2 in that room any doors in it. Maybe get bigger windows in and get some fans installed on them :) SO many options but limited by the space you have in their maybe a clear out of some stuff or tidy up some of it and sort out. Could come up with a room plan is that the total size almost from the pics or it go other way a fair bit too.

Bigger windows and insulation will not be happening.  Just expense's that I really don't want to spend.   I have to be able to justify it and still make money overall with btc.  I have split them into 2 spots at the moment and works fine.  After gable I'm hoping I can move more into there. 

After new gable is replaced I will have the old one slightly over 1000 rpm I can use if I need to push more air inside.  But it is working good right now so I'm happy.  Just need to get it where I can put them all in there.  No matter what during winter they will all be in there easily.

Least making good progress with the project. How many units you going to go too. Wish I could do something like this but Energy in UK is shockingly expensive to run lol. Maybe in the future if the price war happens and protests happen and coin goes up then maybe just maybe ill get some equipment back online. Right now looking at newer equipment to but something that will make profit and right now its very tough. Running something like 3,000w per day was costing me over £10 to £14 per day in energy. Was good 6 to 8 months ago and last year and in 2013 but right now Id be making only like 15 to 20p or in temrs of usd maybe $0.09 per day with energy costs on top so guaranteed energy waste.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 16, 2015, 11:16:10 PM
Just an idea to have more of a controlled unit, seal the unit up have holes cut in sections around where the units are maybe seal in something that is fire proof so that if on the unlikely event it then wont fry anywhere else.

For the fans you got blowing on it you could use something like this with cut outs on it or using smaller

http://202.67.224.133/pdimage/03/3824203_portable.jpg

You could do a Y shape pipe work so its one fan reduce energy costs. or do a  Y shape 1 into 2 and then 2 into 1 opposite ends and fully channel the air in and out.

Reduce your ambient, room tempas much as possibly. You could go to the real extreme and have insulation throughout the rooms roof and walls and have it done in icynene foam product as this works with seasonal control keeping out out and warm in and also the exact thing you want keeping cold in and hot out.                                             

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.

With them Windows are they the only 2 in that room any doors in it. Maybe get bigger windows in and get some fans installed on them :) SO many options but limited by the space you have in their maybe a clear out of some stuff or tidy up some of it and sort out. Could come up with a room plan is that the total size almost from the pics or it go other way a fair bit too.

Bigger windows and insulation will not be happening.  Just expense's that I really don't want to spend.   I have to be able to justify it and still make money overall with btc.  I have split them into 2 spots at the moment and works fine.  After gable I'm hoping I can move more into there. 

After new gable is replaced I will have the old one slightly over 1000 rpm I can use if I need to push more air inside.  But it is working good right now so I'm happy.  Just need to get it where I can put them all in there.  No matter what during winter they will all be in there easily.

Least making good progress with the project. How many units you going to go too. Wish I could do something like this but Energy in UK is shockingly expensive to run lol. Maybe in the future if the price war happens and protests happen and coin goes up then maybe just maybe ill get some equipment back online. Right now looking at newer equipment to but something that will make profit and right now its very tough. Running something like 3,000w per day was costing me over £10 to £14 per day in energy. Was good 6 to 8 months ago and last year and in 2013 but right now Id be making only like 15 to 20p or in temrs of usd maybe $0.09 per day with energy costs on top so guaranteed energy waste.

If all goes well it will be around 10.4k watts of gear.   If it seems to hot I will just keep them separated.   I am lucky enough to have lot's of space. 

It is a lot tighter margins mining now, with low difficulty jumps I am hoping to mine through summer.  And see what happens with next gen.   I'm hoping my gear can compete for a few more months to squeeze extra earnings out of it.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on May 17, 2015, 04:23:12 AM
Check this out and let me know what you think.

Dont want to hijack your thread notlist3d  ;)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1063097.new#new


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: crazyearner on May 17, 2015, 10:05:05 PM
Just an idea to have more of a controlled unit, seal the unit up have holes cut in sections around where the units are maybe seal in something that is fire proof so that if on the unlikely event it then wont fry anywhere else.

For the fans you got blowing on it you could use something like this with cut outs on it or using smaller

http://202.67.224.133/pdimage/03/3824203_portable.jpg

You could do a Y shape pipe work so its one fan reduce energy costs. or do a  Y shape 1 into 2 and then 2 into 1 opposite ends and fully channel the air in and out.

Reduce your ambient, room tempas much as possibly. You could go to the real extreme and have insulation throughout the rooms roof and walls and have it done in icynene foam product as this works with seasonal control keeping out out and warm in and also the exact thing you want keeping cold in and hot out.                                             

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.

With them Windows are they the only 2 in that room any doors in it. Maybe get bigger windows in and get some fans installed on them :) SO many options but limited by the space you have in their maybe a clear out of some stuff or tidy up some of it and sort out. Could come up with a room plan is that the total size almost from the pics or it go other way a fair bit too.

Bigger windows and insulation will not be happening.  Just expense's that I really don't want to spend.   I have to be able to justify it and still make money overall with btc.  I have split them into 2 spots at the moment and works fine.  After gable I'm hoping I can move more into there. 

After new gable is replaced I will have the old one slightly over 1000 rpm I can use if I need to push more air inside.  But it is working good right now so I'm happy.  Just need to get it where I can put them all in there.  No matter what during winter they will all be in there easily.

Least making good progress with the project. How many units you going to go too. Wish I could do something like this but Energy in UK is shockingly expensive to run lol. Maybe in the future if the price war happens and protests happen and coin goes up then maybe just maybe ill get some equipment back online. Right now looking at newer equipment to but something that will make profit and right now its very tough. Running something like 3,000w per day was costing me over £10 to £14 per day in energy. Was good 6 to 8 months ago and last year and in 2013 but right now Id be making only like 15 to 20p or in temrs of usd maybe $0.09 per day with energy costs on top so guaranteed energy waste.

If all goes well it will be around 10.4k watts of gear.   If it seems to hot I will just keep them separated.   I am lucky enough to have lot's of space. 

It is a lot tighter margins mining now, with low difficulty jumps I am hoping to mine through summer.  And see what happens with next gen.   I'm hoping my gear can compete for a few more months to squeeze extra earnings out of it.


10.4k that is some insane to use would cost me like £45 to £50 a day. Just hope your energy is nice an cheap where you are to justifies using such power and the RIO covers for energy used and equipment bought. Look forward to watch how things progress for you. If you need help with layouts and custom mods doing feel free to drop a message or to do good airflow management :) Seems for now you have it under good control.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 18, 2015, 12:11:14 AM
Just an idea to have more of a controlled unit, seal the unit up have holes cut in sections around where the units are maybe seal in something that is fire proof so that if on the unlikely event it then wont fry anywhere else.

For the fans you got blowing on it you could use something like this with cut outs on it or using smaller

http://202.67.224.133/pdimage/03/3824203_portable.jpg

You could do a Y shape pipe work so its one fan reduce energy costs. or do a  Y shape 1 into 2 and then 2 into 1 opposite ends and fully channel the air in and out.

Reduce your ambient, room tempas much as possibly. You could go to the real extreme and have insulation throughout the rooms roof and walls and have it done in icynene foam product as this works with seasonal control keeping out out and warm in and also the exact thing you want keeping cold in and hot out.                                             

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.

With them Windows are they the only 2 in that room any doors in it. Maybe get bigger windows in and get some fans installed on them :) SO many options but limited by the space you have in their maybe a clear out of some stuff or tidy up some of it and sort out. Could come up with a room plan is that the total size almost from the pics or it go other way a fair bit too.

Bigger windows and insulation will not be happening.  Just expense's that I really don't want to spend.   I have to be able to justify it and still make money overall with btc.  I have split them into 2 spots at the moment and works fine.  After gable I'm hoping I can move more into there. 

After new gable is replaced I will have the old one slightly over 1000 rpm I can use if I need to push more air inside.  But it is working good right now so I'm happy.  Just need to get it where I can put them all in there.  No matter what during winter they will all be in there easily.

Least making good progress with the project. How many units you going to go too. Wish I could do something like this but Energy in UK is shockingly expensive to run lol. Maybe in the future if the price war happens and protests happen and coin goes up then maybe just maybe ill get some equipment back online. Right now looking at newer equipment to but something that will make profit and right now its very tough. Running something like 3,000w per day was costing me over £10 to £14 per day in energy. Was good 6 to 8 months ago and last year and in 2013 but right now Id be making only like 15 to 20p or in temrs of usd maybe $0.09 per day with energy costs on top so guaranteed energy waste.

If all goes well it will be around 10.4k watts of gear.   If it seems to hot I will just keep them separated.   I am lucky enough to have lot's of space. 

It is a lot tighter margins mining now, with low difficulty jumps I am hoping to mine through summer.  And see what happens with next gen.   I'm hoping my gear can compete for a few more months to squeeze extra earnings out of it.


10.4k that is some insane to use would cost me like £45 to £50 a day. Just hope your energy is nice an cheap where you are to justifies using such power and the RIO covers for energy used and equipment bought. Look forward to watch how things progress for you. If you need help with layouts and custom mods doing feel free to drop a message or to do good airflow management :) Seems for now you have it under good control.

Thanks! I appreciate it.  I'm kinda in a waiting mode until my new gable fan show's up.   No local hardware store had near the CFM I was wanting so waiting fro online.

It's medium i would describe energy cost at around .095 per kw.   Funny enough i got selected for a "random survey' from my electricity company on what items I'm using.  Needless to say I passed on filling it out.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: crazyearner on May 18, 2015, 12:40:41 AM

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.

Thanks! I appreciate it.  I'm kinda in a waiting mode until my new gable fan show's up.   No local hardware store had near the CFM I was wanting so waiting fro online.

It's medium i would describe energy cost at around .095 per kw.   Funny enough i got selected for a "random survey' from my electricity company on what items I'm using.  Needless to say I passed on filling it out.


WTF only 9 cent per kw that is insane wish I had prices like that for my energy as right now is like 12 to 14p so around $0.15 to $0.16 on energy in UK. With your electricity company asking you on what using it on will be because your using more than the average house uses in a month quarter or year. I had my energy suppler come around with a police offers to inspect my flat because they did not believe me on what I was using the energy on.

I said ok so if you don't take my word for it arrange for a person to come out. 2 weeks later they had someone around taking a look . I said am mining bitcoin and using gaming servers police officer laughed out and said well least this is legal and you not got some sort of grow on that the energy company was expecting or saying due to energy used. Police where asking more questions on it as he knew of it told them about the equipment and responded so can make good money from this then? Said well can make good amounts of bitcoin if done correctly and your in at the right time or pointless on doing and over time eventually earn less and less bitcoin due to diff going up. Said maybe I should get into this bla bla bla. Energy surveyor was happy and told me that we wont be switching your energy off as you are not in breach of anything I said well if you would turn it off Id go to another suppler or id have you done because am not in any breach. Said well it didnt look good when using a lot more energy then the average house around you. I said well come back to me when your mining bitcoin and I told you guys several times to expect a increase in energy used but didn't bother to listen.

I would also go back to your energy suppler and make them aware and make sure they know or even ask them to come around to house to provide proof. Some are just pain stupid thinking illegal activity's as using lots more energy.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 18, 2015, 12:47:05 AM

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.

Thanks! I appreciate it.  I'm kinda in a waiting mode until my new gable fan show's up.   No local hardware store had near the CFM I was wanting so waiting fro online.

It's medium i would describe energy cost at around .095 per kw.   Funny enough i got selected for a "random survey' from my electricity company on what items I'm using.  Needless to say I passed on filling it out.


WTF only 9 cent per kw that is insane wish I had prices like that for my energy as right now is like 12 to 14p so around $0.15 to $0.16 on energy in UK. With your electricity company asking you on what using it on will be because your using more than the average house uses in a month quarter or year. I had my energy suppler come around with a police offers to inspect my flat because they did not believe me on what I was using the energy on.

I said ok so if you don't take my word for it arrange for a person to come out. 2 weeks later they had someone around taking a look . I said am mining bitcoin and using gaming servers police officer laughed out and said well least this is legal and you not got some sort of grow on that the energy company was expecting or saying due to energy used. Police where asking more questions on it as he knew of it told them about the equipment and responded so can make good money from this then? Said well can make good amounts of bitcoin if done correctly and your in at the right time or pointless on doing and over time eventually earn less and less bitcoin due to diff going up. Said maybe I should get into this bla bla bla. Energy surveyor was happy and told me that we wont be switching your energy off as you are not in breach of anything I said well if you would turn it off Id go to another suppler or id have you done because am not in any breach. Said well it didnt look good when using a lot more energy then the average house around you. I said well come back to me when your mining bitcoin and I told you guys several times to expect a increase in energy used but didn't bother to listen.

I would also go back to your energy suppler and make them aware and make sure they know or even ask them to come around to house to provide proof. Some are just pain stupid thinking illegal activity's as using lots more energy.

The good news is I'm on a family farm.  So high usage is not a completely out of normal thing.  I don't think i will cause anyone to come out and inspect.  With being a farm it was wired for a lot of power.

During winter I was over 12k of just mining gear and had no issues.  Also I know the guy who sent out the survey from school, so I think I'm fine between that and the farm.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: crazyearner on May 18, 2015, 01:07:38 AM

I appreciate the advice.   The weather has not been horrible and miners have been pretty comfortable.  I'm hoping my new gable fan once i get it will make a difference on air removal with around 2-2.5x the speed I have now it should be noticeable.

Thanks! I appreciate it.  I'm kinda in a waiting mode until my new gable fan show's up.   No local hardware store had near the CFM I was wanting so waiting fro online.

It's medium i would describe energy cost at around .095 per kw.   Funny enough i got selected for a "random survey' from my electricity company on what items I'm using.  Needless to say I passed on filling it out.


WTF only 9 cent per kw that is insane wish I had prices like that for my energy as right now is like 12 to 14p so around $0.15 to $0.16 on energy in UK. With your electricity company asking you on what using it on will be because your using more than the average house uses in a month quarter or year. I had my energy suppler come around with a police offers to inspect my flat because they did not believe me on what I was using the energy on.

I said ok so if you don't take my word for it arrange for a person to come out. 2 weeks later they had someone around taking a look . I said am mining bitcoin and using gaming servers police officer laughed out and said well least this is legal and you not got some sort of grow on that the energy company was expecting or saying due to energy used. Police where asking more questions on it as he knew of it told them about the equipment and responded so can make good money from this then? Said well can make good amounts of bitcoin if done correctly and your in at the right time or pointless on doing and over time eventually earn less and less bitcoin due to diff going up. Said maybe I should get into this bla bla bla. Energy surveyor was happy and told me that we wont be switching your energy off as you are not in breach of anything I said well if you would turn it off Id go to another suppler or id have you done because am not in any breach. Said well it didnt look good when using a lot more energy then the average house around you. I said well come back to me when your mining bitcoin and I told you guys several times to expect a increase in energy used but didn't bother to listen.

I would also go back to your energy suppler and make them aware and make sure they know or even ask them to come around to house to provide proof. Some are just pain stupid thinking illegal activity's as using lots more energy.

The good news is I'm on a family farm.  So high usage is not a completely out of normal thing.  I don't think i will cause anyone to come out and inspect.  With being a farm it was wired for a lot of power.

During winter I was over 12k of just mining gear and had no issues.  Also I know the guy who sent out the survey from school, so I think I'm fine between that and the farm.

Yeah should be fine. Is just the matter of seeing some sort of massive spike to normal use around the area or to see you not using that much energy causes question. Still would be nice for me toget energy prices liek you in the UK but UK atm are just out to rip everyone off. If people get their way am sure prices will come down but I doubt it very much or a little reduction in cost then spike up jsut like petrol prices went down to £1.06 per L and now going back upto £1.20 in some places and soon to go past what it was last time going to £1.60 or more. If it gets to that am going to be joining the protests too as its bang out of order.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 18, 2015, 07:39:51 AM
Nothing huge over the weekend.  Still waiting on my new gable fan.  It is kinda neat to look back and see how this project has progressed and changed from original idea.

So far I am still summer mining and gear is within safe temps.  So overall still a win.   I did order some more yellow 12-2 cable, it will be wired where during winter all gear will go in it.  During summer I might keep gear separated still not sure. It's kinda a try a idea and see how it works.

Eventually one day when it's "over" I will make a more readable one and show progression.   This is kinda a working log to get to that final thread once done.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: crazyearner on May 18, 2015, 10:28:42 PM
Nothing huge over the weekend.  Still waiting on my new gable fan.  It is kinda neat to look back and see how this project has progressed and changed from original idea.

So far I am still summer mining and gear is within safe temps.  So overall still a win.   I did order some more yellow 12-2 cable, it will be wired where during winter all gear will go in it.  During summer I might keep gear separated still not sure. It's kinda a try a idea and see how it works.

Eventually one day when it's "over" I will make a more readable one and show progression.   This is kinda a working log to get to that final thread once done.

Well nothing like having notes ideas and stuff to go over to merge into one big thread after or for won self needs etc. My mining days are about over unless some bigger cost effective units come along. Have done everything from mining over-clocking, custom modding rigs, Air flow management. over voltting  under vollting pencil modding stuff and then some. Longest parts was getting miner software to work smooth and not not have a nightmare to setup and move around change networks or even upgrade firmware. Soon learned tho and helped me and other out. Now I have enough knowledge to know in future if something good comes along is a matter of buy ship plugin setup mine done.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Searing on May 19, 2015, 04:54:27 AM
well got one of these fans from menards (already have an LCD plug in thermostat laying about)

http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/roofing-soffits-gutters/power-vents/canarm-12-3-speed-xfs-series-exhaust-shutter-fan/p-2365178-c-13258.htm (http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/roofing-soffits-gutters/power-vents/canarm-12-3-speed-xfs-series-exhaust-shutter-fan/p-2365178-c-13258.htm)


https://e2x3s6i4.ssl.hwcdn.net/main/store/20090519001/items/media/BuildingMaterials/BM_CanArm/ProductLarge/XFS_Fan_Front.jpg


also got the rain hood

http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/roofing-soffits-gutters/power-vents/canarm-xf-series-knock-down-hood-for-xfs12-r-16-r/p-2365176.htm (http://www.menards.com/main/building-materials/roofing-soffits-gutters/power-vents/canarm-xf-series-knock-down-hood-for-xfs12-r-16-r/p-2365176.htm)


http://cds.a9t2h4q7.hwcdn.net/main/store/20090519001/items/media/BuildingMaterials/BM_CanArm/ProductMedium/BH-XFS16.jpg


will put it in over the dryer in the picture below

http://i.imgur.com/2ivnbVL.jpg


here is my full setup if anyone is interested...as you can see I did not think ahead the windows are too close to the mickey mouse titan setup for rain/sprinkles
again I may have to build out the box where the fan goes in over the dryer or add one of those flexible fan conduits out a ways...just to avoid some wind/sprinkle
payback on the miners on a real windy day etc..*thus the rain hood above*

my complete setup if anyone is interested link below

http://lostgonzo.imgur.com/ (http://lostgonzo.imgur.com/)


Will mount fan shutter (all one unite metal) it on the outside plywood fastened...will take the screen from outside and fit it inside the window well so will have a screen of some such (although with shutters may not be an issue)...still have time to get this in.....will likely not get hot enough until middle of July here for me to appreciate it...

and because it is a plug in fan.....i can PROBABLY use it for something else..the cost was almost exactly 40 bucks more for the Menards gable fans with a plastic flimsy shutter
arrangement this one is all metal so just got this and the rain hood instead...again about 40 bucks more for all.....but the gable fans did come automatically with a thermostat..but I had one lcd plug in one already here....and those rough construction attic gable fans imho they really really were junk in comparison to this and also a lovely PLASTIC shutter arrangement
as an option too boot..

so as you can see from my arrangement above (again above the dryer...with it recessed in the window mounted on the outside of the window well and the rain hood it should be far enough away for any moisture issues from the miner..if I look at it and am uncomfortable I guess i could get a flexible tube conduit or box in the window well farther out to completely get around any issue with this..run the whole works in a ways more.

anyway will put a picture  up when I get it all in ..just figured I'd post it here in case others are looking at this kind of thing in a basement or garage....and I really like the fan unit with the hood arrangement...works with the basement windows as well

again I was really miffed at how 'cheap' the gable attic fans I saw were online and at Menards ...kinda out of sight out of mind it seems ...was not impressed

anyway for those needing something now I thought this worked pretty good for my needs...if I need to push more air thru the house I will mount a fan at the other side of the basement as an option to push air in ..but I doubt that will be needed

however if you had your miners far enough away from the window (and also you can just open them out far enough so the fan is not in the way) ie just hang them

I thought these units were pretty good also all metal ...alas what I should have done if I would have correctly setup my miner in the middle of the other room far far away from windows..but too much work now will do this

anyway may use 1 of these or as a pull fan for air into the basement should i need some air flow on a a really hot day

http://www.amazon.com/Air-King-9314-Industrial-Velocity/dp/B000227NK6/ref=sr_1_14/180-6598508-9422367?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1432010867&sr=1-14 (http://www.amazon.com/Air-King-9314-Industrial-Velocity/dp/B000227NK6/ref=sr_1_14/180-6598508-9422367?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1432010867&sr=1-14)

price seems high I've seen them for 69 bucks but maybe because summer is coming

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Ve91zClBL._SX300_.jpg

anyway again an item list that seems to work well for a basement if anyone is interested in this solution.....I'll again put the whole works up with pictures when I'm done

again over kill on my part but what the heck :)




Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 19, 2015, 05:00:56 AM
Very nice set up I really like it.  Thanks for sharing it!

If you have not already ordered that fan you might take a look at this one - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020826.msg11050276#msg11050276

It's a very nice fan and comes with a mount as well, where you could put up in air if you wanted.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Searing on May 19, 2015, 05:05:46 AM
Very nice set up I really like it.  Thanks for sharing it!

If you have not already ordered that fan you might take a look at this one - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1020826.msg11050276#msg11050276

It's a very nice fan and comes with a mount as well, where you could put up in air if you wanted.

yeah as the 2nd push me fan should i get one that may work better

again if my windows were not so dang over the frigging micky mouse knc titan setup (ie bare beagle bone board hanging out in the world)



http://i.imgur.com/2ivnbVL.jpg


so thus stuck with the window mounted shutter fan block the window arrangement etc in the previous post

live an learn ..then again having the unit in the middle of the floor in front of the furnace this last winter also probably would not have worked either ..even thou
the bench would have been away from the windows...anyway this should work fine...if again overkill



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 19, 2015, 11:49:13 PM
Well the gable fan came in today.  Might be a weekend project to get old one out and new one in.

But came in without damage so that is always good.  Have not tested it out yet.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 20, 2015, 04:32:33 AM
Looked over the gable fan a little bit.  It does have a nicer thermostat then older fan.  Will try to get some pictures of it tomorrow. 

Took a look at installing it, I'm thinking it will be weekend after looking at it.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Bicknellski on May 20, 2015, 04:45:03 PM
Better hurry... last summer mining you will be doing suggest you make it count.


The price of bitcoin has stabilized in recent months. This improves the perspectives of Chinese miners who construct new mines in the region with cheap energy.

A specialist on Chinese digital economy and the author of three books, Tim Swanson published photos of the new farm in his twitter:

The miners build their station in the place where energy is really cheap – and they pay just 0.03 USD per 1 kWh. This makes Sichuan a fertile ground for miners.

Swanson does not name the firm which is in charge of “bitcoin farm”, but a short search shows that the company in question is HaoBTC.

“HaoBTC is an interest-bearing multi-funciton wallet service. We provide interest-bearing wallet service as well as onchain multisig vault service.”
Presently the company promises a dividend rate at about 10% on any bitcoin deposit. It claims that their clients can take the money out of the wallet like fiat coins out of the pocket.

Now the company has invested in bitcoin mining. One of the creators of the new “bitcoin mine” and Forbes columnist, Eric Mu even promises to spend three months working at a new mine.

As CoinFox reported earlier, Chinese bitcoin companies continue to build mines all over the country. In the beginning of 2015 Motherboard site published a video about Chinese “bitcoin mine” place in one of the northern provinces of the country. The mining complex occupies several floors in the industrial building. Four people working in shifts supervise long lines of computers that produced bitcoins every hour. Owners of the business claim that despite all the difficulties with the status of bitcoin in China the business is profitable – and the new bitcoin mine in Sichuan confirms that this is a trend.

Source: http://www.coinfox.info/index.php/en/allnews/25-company/2066-chinese-wallet-service-builds-new-bitcoin-mining-station-near-tibet

Edit: Here is the EVAPORATION cooling shown on the side of these warehouses at this site in Tibet. Will be 2.5% of the total network when done.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee106/PFC4L1FE/3centskWh_zpsi2vauqtd.png


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: BitcoinPaw on May 20, 2015, 11:34:04 PM
The picture with the cellar is just what I have made last summer for my 14 GPU rigs. Cellar is the best choice for these purposes, and a ventilated cellar is a god-tier choice.

Concerning the fans - I've just used 14 noname Chinese fans 10 inches each, can't tell their cfm for sure yet they were not the best ones. Then moved to the cellar as soon as I found one.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on May 21, 2015, 01:12:07 AM
I went to RONA (home depot) and found some nice stuff but I got a problem.  :P

I want to connect my rigs output to my AC output. But when I start the AC the air get out by the rigs output?

I need a big cfm to counter that ? someone good in thermo dynamic  :P

(I did a small paint to show what I mean)

http://i.imgur.com/3ZjYSUW.png

Already post it on my thread but wanted to share to more person  ;)

Hope its ok with you notlist3d


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 21, 2015, 02:41:41 AM
I went to RONA (home depot) and found some nice stuff but I got a problem.  :P

I want to connect my rigs output to my AC output. But when I start the AC the air get out by the rigs output?

I need a big cfm to counter that ? someone good in thermo dynamic  :P

(I did a small paint to show what I mean)

http://i.imgur.com/3ZjYSUW.png

Already post it on my thread but wanted to share to more person  ;)

Hope its ok with you notlist3d

Not a problem :) this thread is all about helping with summer heat. So any info is more then welcome.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on May 21, 2015, 03:36:08 AM
Thanks man!

I was surprise that the air get out from the rig output.
Do you think a high cfm fan could work?
I guess a fan with same or higher cfm that the AC will work.

Im just worry that the fan could push hot air back to the AC.  :-\


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 21, 2015, 05:04:26 AM
Thanks man!

I was surprise that the air get out from the rig output.
Do you think a high cfm fan could work?
I guess a fan with same or higher cfm that the AC will work.

Im just worry that the fan could push hot air back to the AC.  :-\

It depends on the temperature of your air you bring in.  Also how many CFM.   

If you can push the air out fast yes high CFM can do it.   Since my weather is not really good for evaporation cooling, getting the air out is method I am using.

If you have low humidity weather I highly suggest looking into evaporation cooling.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: mavericklm on May 21, 2015, 07:56:04 AM
the perfect way:

ac->miner->outside!

ducted or somehow done as above

too much air passed thru the ac may shorten its life span if air temp is high


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 21, 2015, 08:09:45 AM
the perfect way:

ac->miner->outside!

ducted or somehow done as above

too much air passed thru the ac may shorten its life span if air temp is high

This would be ideal.  Especially if you can do evaporation cooling as it is much cheaper then regular AC.

I my case cooling down 10K watt's worth of gear with normal AC just would make it to expensive.   This is why I focused on getting new air and old air out.  (Granted it is still in progress).   


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on May 21, 2015, 03:55:47 PM
the perfect way:

ac->miner->outside!

ducted or somehow done as above

too much air passed thru the ac may shorten its life span if air temp is high

Not sure to understand your ac - miner - outside.
This is another nice pic ( :P ) to explain the setup.
THe problem is in orange, hot air in red and cold air in blue.

http://i.imgur.com/yJ85WUs.png


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 21, 2015, 05:20:16 PM
the perfect way:

ac->miner->outside!

ducted or somehow done as above

too much air passed thru the ac may shorten its life span if air temp is high

Not sure to understand your ac - miner - outside.
This is another nice pic ( :P ) to explain the setup.
THe problem is in orange, hot air in red and cold air in blue.

http://i.imgur.com/yJ85WUs.png


I think he was meaning actually using AC to cool miner.   You could do that just pretty expensive. 

With area I'm in was not AC with it being a garage/work area.  So basically all the fan's and new gable fan will be put in for miners (and what ever ends up there one day after miners).

I have only done a few times AC directly into a miner.  One was the SilverFish 28 Scrypt miner.  It seemed to be temperature sensitive the longer I had it... but that was in the day's scrypt was bringing in a lot.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on May 21, 2015, 08:03:52 PM
The AC is already in the same room as the miners. But its not enough so this is why I try to remove hot air from the rooms.  ;)


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 21, 2015, 11:37:26 PM
The AC is already in the same room as the miners. But its not enough so this is why I try to remove hot air from the rooms.  ;)

That is what I have focused on is removing hot air from miners.  It's been a lot of trial and error on it.  This gable fan should really help with the air removal though.   

And I have also put a fan under a regular vent trying to push hot air out a regular air vent.

I forgot it was memorial weekend, I might not get to the fan this weekend.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 25, 2015, 03:24:37 PM
It has actually been cold/rainy weather and has cooled down.  I did not make it like i suspected with memorial weekend on putting up new gable fan.

The cool weather has been a nice surprise.  Although one of my ponds is overflowing... so guess switch from one problem to another.  Probley will be next weekend on putting up gable fan.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 28, 2015, 03:31:42 AM
Looks like heat will cool down slightly making it a tad cooler.  I don't like the heat currently, I think new gable will really help out the stale hot air twords ceiling.

Looked at install what it will take.  I already have right sized screws (won't poke through boards and poke through siding, very important).   Also looked at install I think even though this gable fan has a nice temperature gunge I will keep old one.  It works fine just not as fancy, will take one less thing needing changed out.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on May 28, 2015, 01:33:45 PM
Since my setup is not too big, I was looking at that.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00H9OVMO8/ref=pe_756190_139664830_em_1p_3_im

With 1 good 8'' fan on the top to remove the air!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 29, 2015, 01:05:56 AM
Since my setup is not too big, I was looking at that.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00H9OVMO8/ref=pe_756190_139664830_em_1p_3_im

With 1 good 8'' fan on the top to remove the air!  ;D

That is a very nice premade enclosure for sure.  I find it funny that a lot of the air stuff is related to "Hydroponics".   Hopefully I don't get on some list for all the air equipment I ordered to use for miners.

And I thought it would be hot and me need to install gable.  And it rained once again... cooled weather down.  I think we need to fire some local weathermen.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: GigaBit on May 29, 2015, 06:03:05 PM
I just received a 12" air blower that can move 3,000 CFM.
Make no mistake, this thing is loud as fuck but it keeps my basement coolest around.
In my tiny mining room, it can purge hot air and drop temps within seconds.
Usually, I let it run for a few minutes because it's just grossly loud.
No need for AC if it never really get more than 45C outside.
After that, nothing but an evaporative air cooler does the rest.
Proper air flow is the key to cool mine... AC is a waste I find... but live in a cool climate.

Nothing changes the fact that if your mine is full of hot air, throwing a bunch of cold air won't do nothing but burn your cash.
Get rid of that hot air, get it under control, then cool it.
I'm doing a reconfiguration in my mine right now but I'll post pictures later.
The blower I bought is Q-Essentials - 12" 4/7hp circular air blower, 3,000 CFM - Hi/Lo
There is also an 8" version but... go big or go home. 
That thing is LOUD... you have been warned if you get one; don't yell at me, but you're welcome if you get one and love it like I do.

PS: It's only around $150 too.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 29, 2015, 07:14:00 PM
I just received a 12" air blower that can move 3,000 CFM.
Make no mistake, this thing is loud as fuck but it keeps my basement coolest around.
In my tiny mining room, it can purge hot air and drop temps within seconds.
Usually, I let it run for a few minutes because it's just grossly loud.
No need for AC if it never really get more than 45C outside.
After that, nothing but an evaporative air cooler does the rest.
Proper air flow is the key to cool mine... AC is a waste I find... but live in a cool climate.

Nothing changes the fact that if your mine is full of hot air, throwing a bunch of cold air won't do nothing but burn your cash.
Get rid of that hot air, get it under control, then cool it.
I'm doing a reconfiguration in my mine right now but I'll post pictures later.
The blower I bought is Q-Essentials - 12" 4/7hp circular air blower, 3,000 CFM - Hi/Lo
There is also an 8" version but... go big or go home. 
That thing is LOUD... you have been warned if you get one; don't yell at me, but you're welcome if you get one and love it like I do.

PS: It's only around $150 too.

Do you have a link to your fan?  Sounds like a promising fan with a decent amount of CFM.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: adaseb on May 30, 2015, 01:36:17 AM
I posted this in my other thread but what works for me is basically using vinyl tubing for the exhaust. The heat from the PSU is small.

Basically went to a few stores and for such a simple part it was very hard to find but one location of Home Depot had exactly what I was looking for.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/flexible-vinyl-ducting-6-inch-x-10-foot/968350

http://i59.tinypic.com/9jeg4o.jpg


Its 6 inch by 10 foot and fits both the S2 and S3 perfectly with no air escaping.

For the S3, all you do is slide it right in. For the S2, you use a few zip ties to get it to hold around the fan grill.



http://s13.postimg.org/5vwmkihuf/vinyl_ant.jpg


http://s8.postimg.org/ahiv8n1tx/vinyl_ant2.jpg


But now at least I can keep them running during the Summer.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 30, 2015, 02:13:49 AM
adaseb thank you for sharing setup.  The S3 espically looks very clean with it pushing out through duct.

I think tomorrow I will be putting new gable fan in if it goes according to plan if so I will have some pictures to put on.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 30, 2015, 05:34:45 PM
Takiing pictures during it did not happen.  Kinda in middle of project now.  The new fan is a beast compared to old one. 

It ended up needing a bigger area to hold it on.   So now working on 2 boards that go under it and help hold it in place a little. I think the reinforcement is very good as it was pretty heavy and not near as easy to get up.

So I will update this later.  But project in underway... just slow.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 31, 2015, 01:07:28 AM
Well still need to take pictures and also add thermostat.  Currently it's being controlled by a switch (temporary).  Just doing this as I test it a day and make sure it works and I'm happy with it.

The gable fan is very very substantial compared to old one.   You can feel it when holding it the extra weight.  So now there is extra support added through some wood to allow it to attach screws in.   Also is one taking some of weight that it sits on.   

But as far as performance very very happy.  I do need to get some temperature readings.  But the gable fan vent shows a huge difference.  It's blowing the heck against the slat's and they are open all the way.  Old fan never had this much power.

So actual pictures and hopefully some temp to prove it worked to come in future.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on May 31, 2015, 04:28:49 AM
Appears to be making a difference. I need to get temps to see difference.

It does blow a TON of air compared to last one it's around 2.5x or so the CFM.   I will take a picture of vent it is impressive as vent opens completly shooting air out it.  Old one lifted it up a little but nothing like it is.

At least project is kinda winding down a little.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on June 01, 2015, 12:02:56 AM
Putting in the new tempature gauge was a litte bit of a pain. But have it working now.

I really like that the temp gauge turns off if it does not need it.  I have 1 extra temp gauge from old gable fan.  I would not mind using it with one of the big fans when I get time to have it more automated aswell.

But I will post some pics soon... i know i should have them but been a long weekend full of projects.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on June 02, 2015, 05:29:11 AM
I finnaly am happy with my heat levels.  The new gable fan with around 2.5 x cfm as old one gets rid of the hot stale air that would build up.    I also have normal non powered vent's that help aswell.

The temperature gauge is in so it turns off if it is not needed.   I need to try to hook up old temp gauge to one of the big fans.  Then I'm pretty much done till winter.

Summer heat is harder to mine through then I expected.  I knew with 10k watt's of heat was a battle but did not realize how big of one.  I now use two main spot's for miners and they will make it through summer.   Winter I can compact it with new area and only need one (assuming machines are still profitable).   

2 things I did not include in ROI was adding a new security camera on new area.  And also updating security system to cover garage/ work area where new spot is.  Old spot already had these.   I did not include in ROI as they will be used even when that area no longer mines.

Pictures are coming I have been busy with a few non bitcoin projects so It's been a little less time to mining then normal.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Searing on June 02, 2015, 07:07:51 AM
I finnaly am happy with my heat levels.  The new gable fan with around 2.5 x cfm as old one gets rid of the hot stale air that would build up.    I also have normal non powered vent's that help aswell.

The temperature gauge is in so it turns off if it is not needed.   I need to try to hook up old temp gauge to one of the big fans.  Then I'm pretty much done till winter.

Summer heat is harder to mine through then I expected.  I knew with 10k watt's of heat was a battle but did not realize how big of one.  I now use two main spot's for miners and they will make it through summer.   Winter I can compact it with new area and only need one (assuming machines are still profitable).   

2 things I did not include in ROI was adding a new security camera on new area.  And also updating security system to cover garage/ work area where new spot is.  Old spot already had these.   I did not include in ROI as they will be used even when that area no longer mines.

Pictures are coming I have been busy with a few non bitcoin projects so It's been a little less time to mining then normal.

you see any real improvement yet in hashing with the cooling? I'm running my Titan(s) bsmt heat is 82F or so .... in that it has been cool (cool here too) wondering ...my hash harte has gone UP 0.3mh with the heat (go figure) anyway have to do the same as you ..put in the gable fan here ....but stalling :)



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on June 02, 2015, 07:14:58 AM
I finnaly am happy with my heat levels.  The new gable fan with around 2.5 x cfm as old one gets rid of the hot stale air that would build up.    I also have normal non powered vent's that help aswell.

The temperature gauge is in so it turns off if it is not needed.   I need to try to hook up old temp gauge to one of the big fans.  Then I'm pretty much done till winter.

Summer heat is harder to mine through then I expected.  I knew with 10k watt's of heat was a battle but did not realize how big of one.  I now use two main spot's for miners and they will make it through summer.   Winter I can compact it with new area and only need one (assuming machines are still profitable).   

2 things I did not include in ROI was adding a new security camera on new area.  And also updating security system to cover garage/ work area where new spot is.  Old spot already had these.   I did not include in ROI as they will be used even when that area no longer mines.

Pictures are coming I have been busy with a few non bitcoin projects so It's been a little less time to mining then normal.

you see any real improvement yet in hashing with the cooling? I'm running my Titan(s) bsmt heat is 82F or so .... in that it has been cool (cool here too) wondering ...my hash harte has gone UP 0.3mh with the heat (go figure) anyway have to do the same as you ..put in the gable fan here ....but stalling :)



I have not went up in freq, I'm happy at level I'm at.  On most of the gear if it underclocks well I have it underclocked and make more because of efficiency.  Some gear does not underclock as well so I run them  different.

So none of this bought me faster, but instead allowed me to mine through summer and hopefully some of the gear will even be profitable during coming winter.   I'm trying to milk as much time from them as I can before someday I sell them.  So I guess it's buying me extra time not extra hash.

I was on the edge of selling or running.  Ended up running.  I did get rid of my S3's and a 1T Dragon before summer though.  Just was not worth the heat to profit ratio to me during summer.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Searing on June 02, 2015, 07:50:32 AM
I finnaly am happy with my heat levels.  The new gable fan with around 2.5 x cfm as old one gets rid of the hot stale air that would build up.    I also have normal non powered vent's that help aswell.

The temperature gauge is in so it turns off if it is not needed.   I need to try to hook up old temp gauge to one of the big fans.  Then I'm pretty much done till winter.

Summer heat is harder to mine through then I expected.  I knew with 10k watt's of heat was a battle but did not realize how big of one.  I now use two main spot's for miners and they will make it through summer.   Winter I can compact it with new area and only need one (assuming machines are still profitable).  

2 things I did not include in ROI was adding a new security camera on new area.  And also updating security system to cover garage/ work area where new spot is.  Old spot already had these.   I did not include in ROI as they will be used even when that area no longer mines.

Pictures are coming I have been busy with a few non bitcoin projects so It's been a little less time to mining then normal.

you see any real improvement yet in hashing with the cooling? I'm running my Titan(s) bsmt heat is 82F or so .... in that it has been cool (cool here too) wondering ...my hash harte has gone UP 0.3mh with the heat (go figure) anyway have to do the same as you ..put in the gable fan here ....but stalling :)

I"m running mine full out 325 settings on adv page on asics......with 2 dead dies on orig unit none on second unit getting more then I should expect anyway 650.1mh on putty.exe
the units seem to be like my old Jupiter and LIKE the heat......(probably so they can 'brick' themselves faster)

so it goes





I have not went up in freq, I'm happy at level I'm at.  On most of the gear if it underclocks well I have it underclocked and make more because of efficiency.  Some gear does not underclock as well so I run them  different.

So none of this bought me faster, but instead allowed me to mine through summer and hopefully some of the gear will even be profitable during coming winter.   I'm trying to milk as much time from them as I can before someday I sell them.  So I guess it's buying me extra time not extra hash.

I was on the edge of selling or running.  Ended up running.  I did get rid of my S3's and a 1T Dragon before summer though.  Just was not worth the heat to profit ratio to me during summer.

yeah you are probably correct...I hopefully soon (before too hot and too many mosquito's) will TRY to get my arrangement in as well.....the Titan's were originally designed (at least according to what they wanted to push as a warranty (they forgot to change the page oops so it got bumped to 1 year) only 3 months...so gotta figure they are likely to start dying out here soon...got 2 of the beasts 1 no roi no refund 1st unit ..the 2nd titan used unit HAS ROI'd ..it hopefully will pull the 1st unit closer to ROI....so probably will be able to 'cobble" something together if it starts to go to 'pieces' so to speak...but yeah should probably knock the heat down...it is a frigging raspberry pi bare bone 79 buck science project in reality anway imho ..kinda actually surprised it has lasted 7 months for me (the first titan on 6/6/15 anyway) ...knock wood (prob jinxed myself) :)

stuff to do always stuff to do


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on June 02, 2015, 08:29:09 AM
snip to make smaller

yeah you are probably correct...I hopefully soon (before too hot and too many mosquito's) will TRY to get my arrangement in as well.....the Titan's were originally designed (at least according to what they wanted to push as a warranty (they forgot to change the page oops so it got bumped to 1 year) only 3 months...so gotta figure they are likely to start dying out here soon...got 2 of the beasts 1 no roi no refund 1st unit ..the 2nd titan used unit HAS ROI'd ..it hopefully will pull the 1st unit closer to ROI....so probably will be able to 'cobble" something together if it starts to go to 'pieces' so to speak...but yeah should probably knock the heat down...it is a frigging raspberry pi bare bone 79 buck science project in reality anway imho ..kinda actually surprised it has lasted 7 months for me (the first titan on 6/6/15 anyway) ...knock wood (prob jinxed myself) :)

stuff to do always stuff to do


KNC is one compay I have never had a miner from.  I wish I would have tried it once.  I really like their design of the boxes connected together.    I was always scared off by reading horror stories.  And I know how you feel on the 3 month warranty.  I paid for one controller board once and figured out Asics are not like GPU's.  During GPU day's I had 1 year at least and some were multi year warranty.  It was crazy long.  I know it seemed like I had a card being RMA'ed at any time as I pushed pretty hard.  And I could not believe how good their warranty's were.

I love mining just really gets addicting.  I'm happy I picked to keep going during summer.  Even though it was challenging and seemed like endless amounts spent on fans.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: GigaBit on June 02, 2015, 02:54:07 PM
I said I'd do it once it's done...

Here's how I keep my mine cool:

http://screencast.com/t/mjfFXEQIp
http://screencast.com/t/sn5RzYoQ
http://screencast.com/t/ojvOMmAJyKM

You can buy that blower on amazon, I think like $150, expect 2 weeks to receive it.

Seriously, I should have done that last year but didn't have the money to play with.
This thing brings my S4 from 65 degrees down to 55 in about 3 minutes; still blows my mind... no pun intended.
The room is small but is able to get its cool intake air from another room.
Like I always say, get rid of the hot air first, then condition it.
This here thing will get rid of any hot air and does it in a hurry.
No need to run this all the time because it is very loud, much louder than an S4... also uses 450w of power.
It's also not explosion proof, so if you're in a toxic fume rich area, could be hazardous.

Then cooling it is a breeze... no pun intended, I'll be adding but an evaporative air cooler in a few months once it's scorching hot out.
From my perspective, a great investment.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on June 02, 2015, 03:46:55 PM
I said I'd do it once it's done...

Here's how I keep my mine cool:

http://screencast.com/t/mjfFXEQIp
http://screencast.com/t/sn5RzYoQ
http://screencast.com/t/ojvOMmAJyKM

You can buy that blower on amazon, I think like $150, expect 2 weeks to receive it.

Seriously, I should have done that last year but didn't have the money to play with.
This thing brings my S4 from 65 degrees down to 55 in about 3 minutes; still blows my mind... no pun intended.
The room is small but is able to get its cool intake air from another room.
Like I always say, get rid of the hot air first, then condition it.
This here thing will get rid of any hot air and does it in a hurry.
No need to run this all the time because it is very loud, much louder than an S4... also uses 450w of power.
It's also not explosion proof, so if you're in a toxic fume rich area, could be hazardous.

Then cooling it is a breeze... no pun intended, I'll be adding but an evaporative air cooler in a few months once it's scorching hot out.
From my perspective, a great investment.

Very nice setup.  Thank you for sharing it.    Very clean look to it.

I'm jealous of the evaporation cooling.  The humidity in weather leaves me with regular AC.... so my miners will not be getting AC.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: GigaBit on June 02, 2015, 05:30:53 PM
I said I'd do it once it's done...

Here's how I keep my mine cool:

http://screencast.com/t/mjfFXEQIp
http://screencast.com/t/sn5RzYoQ
http://screencast.com/t/ojvOMmAJyKM

You can buy that blower on amazon, I think like $150, expect 2 weeks to receive it.

Seriously, I should have done that last year but didn't have the money to play with.
This thing brings my S4 from 65 degrees down to 55 in about 3 minutes; still blows my mind... no pun intended.
The room is small but is able to get its cool intake air from another room.
Like I always say, get rid of the hot air first, then condition it.
This here thing will get rid of any hot air and does it in a hurry.
No need to run this all the time because it is very loud, much louder than an S4... also uses 450w of power.
It's also not explosion proof, so if you're in a toxic fume rich area, could be hazardous.

Then cooling it is a breeze... no pun intended, I'll be adding but an evaporative air cooler in a few months once it's scorching hot out.
From my perspective, a great investment.

Very nice setup.  Thank you for sharing it.    Very clean look to it.

I'm jealous of the evaporation cooling.  The humidity in weather leaves me with regular AC.... so my miners will not be getting AC.

You're welcome m8, if it can save another miner a few more bucks in cooling costs then, I'm happy I can help.
The miners (except S1) are all in line with the window, that's why all the wood.
I figure that, once I run out of window room, I'll have been out of breakers to use.

That said, miners themselves remove a lot of humidity in a room, so an evaporative air cooler is like a humidifier too.
The humidity here is about 65% year round but it's about 30% in my mine's office.
Kill two stones with one bird so to say... I live beside Lake Superior, it's humid here too lol
Evaporative air coolers are cheap, some of them are around $100 or so.

That said, here's a link for miners interested in getting the same blower... it's on sale at Amazon right now too.

http://amzn.to/1ALxSGd

PS: You're right, mining is addictive.  My modem died last week and took a week to get a new one... for that week waiting, I felt like a part of me was missing, or had departed.  Not as bad as nicotine withdrawals but maybe, just as sad.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on June 03, 2015, 12:36:35 AM
2905 CMF  :o

Thats a lot of air!  ;D

and 129$ is really cheap for that! But 430 w that a lot!


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on June 03, 2015, 01:29:02 AM
2905 CMF  :o

Thats a lot of air!  ;D

and 129$ is really cheap for that! But 430 w that a lot!


With my area it's normal AC's.  So the fan's even though not greatest energy efficiency beat running a regular AC unit by a lot on money.  I'm jealous of the one's that meet evaporation cooling requirements. 

Today was in 80's.  Hottest day for me yet this summer.  Miners kept going no issues.  So hoping this trend continues for all summer.  Instead of big fan getting the temp gauge I think I will re purpose old gable fan to push air out through a regular vent if it get's over a certain very hot temp.   The problem is I need to add some guards on it to make it safe.  Don't want a gable fan falling down whenn spinning.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: GigaBit on June 04, 2015, 07:08:13 PM
2905 CMF  :o

Thats a lot of air!  ;D

and 129$ is really cheap for that! But 430 w that a lot!


With my area it's normal AC's.  So the fan's even though not greatest energy efficiency beat running a regular AC unit by a lot on money.  I'm jealous of the one's that meet evaporation cooling requirements. 

Today was in 80's.  Hottest day for me yet this summer.  Miners kept going no issues.  So hoping this trend continues for all summer.  Instead of big fan getting the temp gauge I think I will re purpose old gable fan to push air out through a regular vent if it get's over a certain very hot temp.   The problem is I need to add some guards on it to make it safe.  Don't want a gable fan falling down whenn spinning.

It's been a cool summer for me so far... today was around 60F and hottest temps in the mine being around 90F, which is normal for me.
I use the S4 as a gauge... when it hits 65C, hit the blower until it drops down to 55C.

Put it this way, at 430 watts, I don't need to run it for long, 5-10 minutes maybe once or twice a day ;)
This sucker moves a lot of air so it needs a way to get its air flow coming from another room during summer.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: valkir on June 04, 2015, 08:04:34 PM
I got this : http://www.amazon.com/Comair-Rotron-020189-Caravel-Cooling/dp/B000J1AJEC

from philipma. I start it when its getting near 29-30 (celsius) (86 F)

Enough to cold down the place!  ;D


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on June 04, 2015, 11:22:06 PM
I got this : http://www.amazon.com/Comair-Rotron-020189-Caravel-Cooling/dp/B000J1AJEC

from philipma. I start it when its getting near 29-30 (celsius) (86 F)

Enough to cold down the place!  ;D

It's pretty amazing how a proper cooling system can make a big difference.  With no evaporation cooling I use air trying to blow the hot air out.  So far working good and was in mid 80's here as well today.

Looking like I will make it through summer.  Which was my goal, so I'm very happy.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: philipma1957 on June 10, 2015, 04:46:15 PM
I got this : http://www.amazon.com/Comair-Rotron-020189-Caravel-Cooling/dp/B000J1AJEC

from philipma. I start it when its getting near 29-30 (celsius) (86 F)

Enough to cold down the place!  ;D

I still have one left.  with 1 guard .   I will only charge shipping for it.

anyone need it let me know?  wife wants an empty house.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAYTON-4YD82-Fan-Guard-Steel-8-3-4d-/381021634273?


I think this grill fits it.

I also have 7 of these fans

http://www.ebay.com/itm/EBM-THERMALLY-PROTECTED-40-WATT-FAN-W2S130-AA25-44-/121586109922

this grill fits them


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAYTON-3RP15-Fan-Guard-Pl-6-3-4d-/221575467281?

along with these wires


http://www.ebay.com/itm/DAYTON-4YD79-Cordset-Axial-Fan-24in-90-Degree-Head-/221573939748?



Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on December 13, 2015, 06:16:44 AM
Tried another fan today - http://www.lowes.com/pd_416730-11292-SFDC2-600T_0__?Ntt=416730&UserSearch=416730&productId=4755305&rpp=32
Utilitech Pro 24-in 2-Speed High Velocity Fan


It is a medium sized fan at 24 inches.  It is rated very high cfm for its size: 7860.

I put one of these in area I plan on putting miners in.   Tested one out it does put out a heck of a lot of air.  I could feel it move air a good amount farther then other fan above.  And it still has a non-electrical switch that if power is knocked out it will come back on same speed.

Update on the fan's.  One is still working perfect the other the fan burnt out.  Odd it burnt out during winter and not during summer... but it did.

Was a pain turns out it's a lowes only brand.  They will tell you they only do in store help on 3 months with fans, even though they have a 1 year warranty.... but it's a lowes only product.   Your first trip there to see if they have replacement and get phone number the employees will be of no help after 3 months they could care less.

Just incase anyone else go through this call the number they give you for warranty if it's summer likely you ship in the motor, they ship you back a new one.  But if it's winter... they don't produce them so no new motors.   I had to get someone at corporate and a reference number and name and extension which they will give.  With that you can go to store and if they don't have the fan they can credit it on lowes giftcard most likely. 

So they were out of the 24 inch fan.  I ended up going up to the 36 inch model - http://www.lowes.com/pd_416731-11292-SFDC-900F___?productId=4755307 . It was very slim pickings on fan's so I decided as long as it was more CFM I was happy even though I dipped a little out of pocket.   But come summer I should have this 12000 cfm beast pushing some serious air.

But for anyone reading this the key if you have same trouble is getting the reference number and persons name and extension.  With all that the store pretty much goes from a stern no to "Ohhh crap he talked to corporate what can we do to help?"


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Searing on December 13, 2015, 08:17:36 AM
This works for me (i think i posted more details in this thread farther back)

lostgonzo.imgur.com (http://lostgonzo.imgur.com)

have a push fan accross basement pushes air in (photos) and a shutter fan arrangement the pushes it out (hot air rises ...a small wind accross the basement ceiling) :)

worked ok on the Titans...now it is winter so no issue (mild winter not using any gas at all on the house ..weird....mining for free heat is FUN!....)

Anyway for what it is worth. You can see from the shutter fan arrangement I did not plan the miner bench correctly (right under other windows) thus from
the pics you can see my work around.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: DavieT1337 on December 13, 2015, 08:24:54 AM
Why i cant open the link from http://www.lowes.com

it says im not available to see the site from my Server?
What does this mean?

Anyways i really find it interesting to buy in ventilators for the Summer and sale it alter ;9

regards
DaveiT1337


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: Searing on December 13, 2015, 08:51:12 AM
Why i cant open the link from http://www.lowes.com

it says im not available to see the site from my Server?
What does this mean?

Anyways i really find it interesting to buy in ventilators for the Summer and sale it alter ;9

regards
DaveiT1337

ok i just got in at this

http://www.lowes.com/ (http://www.lowes.com/)

 just saying :)

(er what is this 40% off tools...wheee...curse you now I will spend fiat on tools I will likely never use..damn it!) ;)






Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on December 13, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
Why i cant open the link from http://www.lowes.com

it says im not available to see the site from my Server?
What does this mean?

Anyways i really find it interesting to buy in ventilators for the Summer and sale it alter ;9

regards
DaveiT1337

ok i just got in at this

http://www.lowes.com/ (http://www.lowes.com/)

 just saying :)

(er what is this 40% off tools...wheee...curse you now I will spend fiat on tools I will likely never use..damn it!) ;)




On lowes I'm not sure how they get them but there is always 10 percent of order over X.   I used one coupon I bought a bit back.

I can't wait to turn it on tomorrow and see how the 12k CFM are.   On a side note I had one I got at a different retailer don't believe what all manufactures say on CFM's.  Called them up they act like they look it up... 7500 CFM they said so not bad.  But it was closer to 4k CFM if that.  So It made it complicated returning another fan.


Title: Re: Summer Mining - Fans/Other summer equipment
Post by: notlist3d on December 14, 2015, 04:56:03 AM
Ok went ahead and installed to test it out. Yes I know it's winter :) but I wanted to test out for next summer or possibly turning off some other ones and using this.  I can say 24 inch to 36 inch is a LOT bigger.  Does not seem to big till you get it home.... and realize you have a beast.


But it puts out a ton of CFM's.   This is a Lowes only brand but really they seem to make this series for very high CFM which is good for miners.